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      01-29-2017, 07:23 AM   #23
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http://www.dinancars.com/product/d90...ries&mid=1159/

If you read about halfway down the page in the FAQ section, they describe sending your ECU in if you don't live near a Dinan dealer.
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      01-29-2017, 08:01 AM   #24
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I see it now. I was looking at the power package P1 which is just 10% off vs the Stage 2 tune. Power pkg = Stage 2 + exhaust.
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      01-29-2017, 08:21 AM   #25
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You just need the tune. As usual an exhaust will provide nominal gains particularly on a car like the 135i that already has a great system.
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      01-29-2017, 08:36 AM   #26
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The BMW PPK goes from 300 HP & 300 torque, to 320 HP, but then limits the torque gain on the MT & DCT. Torque goes to 335 fit AT but only 317 for MT & DCT.

Dinan info is a bit confusing. It says gains are 47hp & 65 torque, but then also says it goes to 355 HP & 401 torque? Not sure which is correct & also lists No difference between AT, MT and DCT? I have the PPK currently, but even for the lower figures that's a solid bump over stock.

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      01-29-2017, 08:40 AM   #27
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You just need the tune. As usual an exhaust will provide nominal gains particularly on a car like the 135i that already has a great system.
Need wasn't the issue.
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      01-29-2017, 08:42 AM   #28
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Enough said!
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      01-29-2017, 08:44 AM   #29
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So I just saw on their Facebook page that the sale started on Thursday. I was worried it had been going on for over a week and I might miss my opportunity. So I think if I can get it done next week, the sale will still be on.
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      01-29-2017, 09:01 AM   #30
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The BMW PPK goes from 300 HP & 300 torque, to 320 HP, but then limits the torque gain on the MT & DCT. Torque goes to 335 fit AT but only 327 for MT & DCT.

Dinan goes to 355 HP & 401 torque. No difference between AT, MT and DCT? I have the PPK currently but that's a solid bump.
There's been a lot of misinformation about what the actual torque numbers are for the PPK with the manual/DCT. It's actually smaller than many people think. The torque bump over stock is only 17 ft lbs. To make sure I haven't been smoking any crack, I pulled out my BMW sales brochure and it lists the 135is for both manual and DCT as 317 ft lbs.

On a side note, this will also make me seriously consider doing the S2 tune also at this price. Especially if the throttle issues I've been experiencing is improved with my DCT. I've been waiting on the MHD but because I have a 2013, I have to wait for them to figure out the bugs with doing a bench flash. Going to a proven and reliable flash with Dinan at this price is really tempting. I'll be making some phone calls come Monday.
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      01-29-2017, 09:28 AM   #31
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There's been a lot of misinformation about what the actual torque numbers are for the PPK with the manual/DCT. It's actually smaller than many people think. The torque bump over stock is only 17 ft lbs. To make sure I haven't been smoking any crack, I pulled out my BMW sales brochure and it lists the 135is for both manual and DCT as 317 ft lbs.
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It was a typo. I meant 317. . I edited my post above.


And Dinan's info is confusing. Says 335 & 401 but also says it's +47HP & +65 torque. Not sure which is right, not that it matters.

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      01-29-2017, 09:35 AM   #32
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It was a typo. I meant 317. -D


Your post was just another one recently where the numbers were posted incorrectly about the PPK and the 6MT/DCT hence why I posted the way I did.

The one thing I also noticed about what Dinan is offering for parts on our cars seem to be diminishing. They don't list their LSD anymore nor do I see the suspension spring kits. I wonder if this is just the beginning of them looking to liquidate inventory to eventually drop support for the E82/88 platform.
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      01-29-2017, 12:44 PM   #33
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Perhaps the issues with the dinan is like the usual confusion around performance tuners brocures/website. One figure may be WHP and the other is at the engine numbers.

Just my 2 cents. And biggest bang for buck if you have 2011&older-> MHD ;-)
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      01-29-2017, 03:59 PM   #34
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A couple points regarding the confusion around Dinan's numbers:
  • Dinan tests using 93 octane (it says so on the specifications section of the software product pages).
  • Peak power gains compare the two highest values of each map. Maximum power gains compares the two points that have the largest delta (change).
  • Dinan lists max gain, peak, and peak gain.
  • BMW underrates their cars. Just for example, the N55 in the M235i is rated at 320 HP and 330 lb. ft. of torque, but Dinan lists dyno numbers for stock output at 329 and 379 respectively.

So for those wondering, with 93 octane you can realistically expect to make 355 HP and 401 lb. ft. of torque with the S2 software and free flow exhaust, though the muffler itself is likely negligible and not completely necessary (excellent sound though).
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In support of what zx10guy said regarding PPK hp and torque, here's a short article from Car and Driver on the subject:

http://blog.caranddriver.com/bmw-per...599-add-20-hp/

Edit: I posted this article elsewhere in this forum but thought it was appropriate to post it here as well.
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I am confirmed for tomorrow and I am getting the sale price, plus tax.
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      01-30-2017, 11:17 AM   #37
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I stopped by an indie Dinan dealer to ask some questions. Didn't expect to be sitting here having the S2 tune flashed into my car as we speak.
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I am going to the same exact place tomorrow.
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      01-30-2017, 01:31 PM   #39
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I am going to the same exact place tomorrow.
What place are you going too, im interested in getting the tune as well
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      01-30-2017, 01:37 PM   #40
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      01-30-2017, 01:39 PM   #41
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I want to schedule this asap... anyone have experience stage 1 vs stage 2??? I have the oil cooler already so I'm eligible for stage 2.

What I'm wondering is will I be happy with the power / tq from s1? I don't want to stress the motor with s2.
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I want to schedule this asap... anyone have experience stage 1 vs stage 2??? I have the oil cooler already so I'm eligible for stage 2.

What I'm wondering is will I be happy with the power / tq from s1? I don't want to stress the motor with s2.
Do you need additional hardware like an oil cooler or radiator fan to move from PPK to Stage 2?
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Do you need additional hardware like an oil cooler or radiator fan to move from PPK to Stage 2?
Cmoney135i is talking N54 which is different than our N55s and I think it requires hardware for stage 2. N55 does not require hardware to flash stage 2.
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Also, I believe N54 Dinan stage 2 has more hp and torque than N55 stage 2.
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