Impressive conversion

h-manuk · 03-25-2012, 08:44 AM

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=662836

1M SUSI · 03-25-2012, 08:50 AM

Oh and now he converted it into a "real" m car.

Harlequin · 03-25-2012, 08:58 AM

That dude's a member here... It's been on the front page for a week or more...

I don't think he or anyone else has said there or elsewhere that it's now a "real ///M car"... Tall Poppy much?

RaihaX · 03-25-2012, 09:05 AM

Welcome to last week

Powerbeast · 03-25-2012, 09:06 AM

Repost and in no way is it a "real M"

h-manuk · 03-25-2012, 09:38 AM

Doh.....so not on it

m3kerry · 03-25-2012, 09:51 AM

Is this a down grade? Is the car better with a v8 then just tuning the 6? Not
trying to troll.

Pete_vB · 03-25-2012, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by m3kerry

Is this a down grade? Is the car better with a v8 then just tuning the 6? Not
trying to troll.

Upgrade IMHO. I'd trade the 8 kg or whatever it is for that throttle response.

MrRoboto · 03-25-2012, 10:36 AM

A fool and his money. What would you guys buy with 150k?

larryn · 03-25-2012, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Powerbeast

Repost and in no way is it a "real M"

It has a real M engine and drivetrain and real M suspension. The 1M only has half of that equation.

That being said, I call my transplant car a 332ti for a reason, even though the diff and suspension that I have in it are better than a stock e36 M3's... and it has the interior and rest of the drivetrain as an M3.

MrRoboto · 03-25-2012, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by larryn

It has a real M engine and drivetrain and real M suspension. The 1M only has half of that equation.

That being said, I call my transplant car a 332ti for a reason, even though the diff and suspension that I have in it are better than a stock e36 M3's... and it has the interior and rest of the drivetrain as an M3.

Give it a rest larry.

Pete_vB · 03-25-2012, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by larryn

It has a real M engine and drivetrain and real M suspension. The 1M only has half of that equation.

Badge snob much?

The 1M is proving crushingly faster than the M3 in many forms of competition. They are both A stock cars in SCCA, and the M3 likely is something over a second slower on the average course. I'll take the "fake" M engine and the better chassis any day of the week, thanks.

135IS · 03-25-2012, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Powerbeast

Repost and in no way is it a "real M"

the 1M is not a real m either...

larryn · 03-25-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_vB

Badge snob much?

The 1M is proving crushingly faster than the M3 in many forms of competition. They are both A stock cars in SCCA, and the M3 likely is something over a second slower on the average course. I'll take the "fake" M engine and the better chassis any day of the week, thanks.

LOL. Selective quote much? And your comment doesn't even make sense against the quote.

I am about as unbadgesnobbish as a person can get. Like it or not. The text you selected is the absolute unequivocal truth. Stop reading into alternate meanings. You would be incorrect.

Edit: I get it.. You see the new addition to my garage. That has nothing to do with the comment. I go on to say that I have a similar transplant car, and also do not consider it ///M badge material either.

FWIW, the 1M is a ballsy car, and I was not slamming it, just saying that the quote "not a real M car" is throwing stones in a glass house...and poking fun at a member who's gone thru a lot to make an amazing car, only to get slammed by ridiculously petty comment.

Pete_vB · 03-25-2012, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by larryn

LOL. Selective quote much? And your comment doesn't even make sense against the quote.

First, quoting your first paragraph isn't selective quoting. You made a point I responded to.

Quote:

Originally Posted by larryn

The text you selected is the absolute unequivocal truth. Stop reading into alternate meanings. You would be incorrect.

Second, no, it is not the truth that it's not a M motor. The truth is simple- BMW decides what an M is. They say the 1M motor is an M- says so right on the motor. Some people think they know better, because it wasn't made by so-and-so, shares too much in common with non M cars.. So they don't like BMW's answer, and make a big deal about it. Which is why I mention badge snobbery. Fine, but it according to BMW it still doesn't make them right...

My point is simple. I could care less if they call it an M. It's clearly often faster and rated better than the other cars they do call M, which is what matters to me. For this guy's conversion, maybe BMW didn't call it an M, but who gives a damn? The thing, if it's done well, would rock plan and simple, regardless of what it's called.

ESC OFF · 03-25-2012, 01:24 PM

great...another pissing match.
It's a good thing Indy Car in St Pete is going on right now...oh wait they're driving V6 turbos now not V8's...I guess they're not real Indy Cars either...

larryn · 03-25-2012, 01:26 PM

Pete, I am not going down a "not an M motor" path. It's irrelevant to the topic, and we have differing opinions. That's okay.

Regarding your second paragraph, we are in complete agreement. For powerbeast's comment, it was a shitty thing to singularly say. 'Nuf said.

mPlasticDesign · 03-25-2012, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Harlequin

....I don't think....anyone else has said there or elsewhere that it's now a "real ///M car"... Tall Poppy much?

Read the other thread. There are several "NOW that's a 'real' M car!" and most coming from 135 owners not M3 owners. Kinda like this comment in this thread:

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Originally Posted by 135IS

the 1M is not a real m either...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pete_vB

The 1M is proving crushingly faster than the M3 in many forms of competition. They are both A stock cars in SCCA, and the M3 likely is something over a second slower on the average course. I'll take the "fake" M engine and the better chassis any day of the week, thanks.

+1

I'm not sure I would trade the 1M engine for the S65. I lived with both the S54 and S65 for 3yrs each. The 1M has crazy power.

Do I think this conversion is kick ass? Yes I do! Would I have still bought the 1M if it had the S65? Of course. But I don't feel cheated in any way with what the M Group has done with the N54.

Artemis · 03-25-2012, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_vB

no, it is not the truth that it's not a M motor. The truth is simple - BMW decides what an M is. They say the 1M motor is an M - says so right on the motor. Some people think they know better, because it wasn't made by so-and-so, shares too much in common with non M cars. So they don't like BMW's answer, and make a big deal about it.

Message to all disbelievers and doubters: feel free to take the ///M paternity test: first drive the 1M to bits and then let's talk again.

m3kerry · 03-25-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pete_vB

Badge snob much?

The 1M is proving crushingly faster than the M3 in many forms of competition. They are both A stock cars in SCCA, and the M3 likely is something over a second slower on the average course. I'll take the "fake" M engine and the better chassis any day of the week, thanks.

Let me assure that the e90 is no where near the 1m in autox. Now, I don't know about the track but autox is the 1m's play ground.

ozinaldo · 03-25-2012, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr.Metak2you

Read the other thread. There are several "NOW that's a 'real' M car!" and most coming from 135 owners not M3 owners. Kinda like this comment in this thread:

+1

I'm not sure I would trade the 1M engine for the S65. I lived with both the S54 and S65 for 3yrs each. The 1M has crazy power.

Do I think this conversion is kick ass? Yes I do! Would I have still bought the 1M if it had the S65? Of course. But I don't feel cheated in any way with what the M Group has done with the N54.

Totally agree with all that. Plus, people can go to that thread and see how that was abused extensively pages and pages by the same people who keep on looking for any opportunity to "1M is not a real M" bs, even after everything this car has prooved in so many occasions, that is just out of this world kind of prejudice for me.

Every 1M owner on that thread was saying just good things about that conversion, congratulating the OP including me but somehow we all were labeled as "haters" anyway. I rarely have blog discussions, am too old and busy for that kind of waste, but had a one little war of words and kind of enjoyed it since the opponent had to reveal what he is made of at the end, this is all on the last pages of that thread and could be read by anyone just for fun or in order to understand how deep it goes this prejudice.

They didn't even get the point that the converted car was equally close to a M3 too however for some reason no one told that "now this is how a real M3 should be", I guess a taboo is a taboo, and even if BMW puts real pure bred race horses (2 of them) in front of their next M3 instead of an engine, people will just continue worshipping, saying that how organic the new car is riding!

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