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      10-26-2008, 11:17 PM   #45
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Gill, if we choose not to buy a new set of wheels for the winter what tires would you recommend for stock 18" rims on 135i coupe? TIA!
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Hi Gill,

I have a Canadian spec 135i Cab with M-Sport Package. For winter use I am thinking of getting 205-50R17's all around. As far as rims go, what offset should I be looking for and do I need to get TPM for the new wheels?

I'm sorry if this question has been asked before:iono:

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You won't need anything TPM related for the new wheels since you don't have sensors. Offset is a workable range. You should avoid searching for a set number since many will work. All the winter wheels we have listed for the vehicles at our site have a correct offset for the vehicle.

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Hi Gill,

I have a 135 coupe with M-sport pkg and I'm in Toronto where we get a fair amount of snow. I'm thinking of getting 205/50-17 Dunlop SP Winter Sport 3D tires and either the Elbrus I02 or the Sport Edition SE-14 wheels.

Do you have any suggestions as to which wheel is better?
Elbrus seems new- have you heard anything good/bad about it and do you recommend it?
Has the Elbrus been tested with the 135 coupe?

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Eric
We have not done any testing on the Elbrus but that is no different than any other new wheel we've ever brought in. We do, however, know exactly how they are made and by whom and we have every confidence this wheel will work perfectly fine. If we had any reservations about this we would not carry it, let alone recommend it for the car.

Either of those wheels would be fine. It really boils down to what you like the look/price of better.

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Gill, if we choose not to buy a new set of wheels for the winter what tires would you recommend for stock 18" rims on 135i coupe? TIA!
I would use the 3D from Dunlop or the LM25 from Bridgestone. Both are outstanding performance winter tires. You couldn't go wrong with either.

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      10-27-2008, 09:43 PM   #47
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I would use the 3D from Dunlop or the LM25 from Bridgestone. Both are outstanding performance winter tires. You couldn't go wrong with either.

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Can I rock 225/40/18 all around? And do I need to buy anything special for the TPMS?
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      10-27-2008, 09:59 PM   #48
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For those interested in a pic of Sport-Edition KM11 (photoshoped). Not exactly perfect and not with winter tires, but gives you an idea what they look like on sedona red



Ok thanks to TNAWAB for posting his winter wheel setup with KM11's just on a SGM 135 i was able to at least put together a better rendition of what they look like on a sedona red. Enjoy
that actually doesn't look half bad, thanks for the photoshop work. really appreciate it
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Can I rock 225/40/18 all around? And do I need to buy anything special for the TPMS?
You sure could. Nothing special needed for TPMS.
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      10-28-2008, 11:33 AM   #50
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that actually doesn't look half bad, thanks for the photoshop work. really appreciate it
No problem glad it helped at least one person. :biggrin: well myself too as I am probalby going to get those rims for winter setup.

Just can't decide on 205 or 215. Want good dry traction but still decent snow traction. We don't get crazy snow but once in a while it does come down.

Any suggestion Gill??
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No problem glad it helped at least one person. :biggrin: well myself too as I am probalby going to get those rims for winter setup.

Just can't decide on 205 or 215. Want good dry traction but still decent snow traction. We don't get crazy snow but once in a while it does come down.

Any suggestion Gill??
The 205 is fine but I personally prefer a bit wider tire.
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The 205 is fine but I personally prefer a bit wider tire.
I would like to go a bit wider too so i have better performance during dry days as there are more of those then actual snow on the roads.
Will I loss alot of grip in the snow with a 215 compared to a 205?
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I would like to go a bit wider too so i have better performance during dry days as there are more of those then actual snow on the roads.
Will I loss alot of grip in the snow with a 215 compared to a 205?
No, it would be a pretty nominal decrease.

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What size LM-25s would you recommend on the 135i's OEM 18'' rims? The site guides you to select 225/40 all around, I think, but 225/40 front, 235/50 rear is another option, right? Thanks.
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What size LM-25s would you recommend on the 135i's OEM 18'' rims? The site guides you to select 225/40 all around, I think, but 225/40 front, 235/50 rear is another option, right? Thanks.
I would do the 225/40/18 all the way around. I'm not sure there's any good reason to use a 235 on the rear. It's smaller than OE and it takes away your ability to rotate.

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So no issues to worry about putting same size tires around on different width wheels front and back?
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Gill,

Do you recommend rotating the tires on the 135 coupe? I have read that the 3 series have had problems with the RFT tires after 10,000+ miles with a lot of tire road noise. Some say it is because the tires wear unevenly creating the noise and both Tirerack&Bridgestone have talked about rotating the RFT's every 5000-8000 miles to prevent the uneven wear and noise. I wonder if this would also apply to the 135 coupe. As you know BMW doesn't recommend rotating tires. Also since the front and rear tires are different sizes you could only rotate left to right and right to left.

What are you thoughts?

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So no issues to worry about putting same size tires around on different width wheels front and back?
No issue. Those tires fit both wheels.

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Gill,

Do you recommend rotating the tires on the 135 coupe? I have read that the 3 series have had problems with the RFT tires after 10,000+ miles with a lot of tire road noise. Some say it is because the tires wear unevenly creating the noise and both Tirerack&Bridgestone have talked about rotating the RFT's every 5000-8000 miles to prevent the uneven wear and noise. I wonder if this would also apply to the 135 coupe. As you know BMW doesn't recommend rotating tires. Also since the front and rear tires are different sizes you could only rotate left to right and right to left.

What are you thoughts?

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It's good to rotate but your situation will tell you if it's possible. BMW doesn't recommend it likely due to the fact that the OE tires are directional and the wheels are staggered. You'd have to dismount the tire and remount it to change sides. Your "rotation" situation will depend on the wheels used (staggered, non-staggered,) the tires (directional, sym, asy,) or both, as to how you can rotate.
I have asy. summers that I can rotate side to side on the same axle. My winters are directional but the same size all the way around so I'll only be able to rotate front to back. I will certainly do this.

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Gill,

Many thanks for your response.
I'm not sure I fully understood your explanation. I have a 135 coupe with M-sport pkg and OEM tires/rims. Why would you have to mount and dismount the tires? Couldn't you just move the tire&rim as one unit from the right front to the left front and then move the left front tire/rim to the right front. Then do the same for the back wheels? I gather if they are directional then this may not be kosher since you are reversing the direction of rotation, but can it be done and is it a good way to even out tread wear (the Bridgestone response below seems to suggest that)? How do you know these tires are directional, they do seem asymmetrical in that one side is marked "outside", but how do you know they are directional?

I found the info on rotation from another forum where someone with a 2006 BMW 330i wrote to Bridgestone and they recommended changing tires right to left and left to right. See the response below.

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Your email was forwarded to me for response.

From your description of the situation you are experiencing with your
BMW tires I would conclude that your tires have an irregular wear
phenomenon we call "heel-and-toe" wear. Excessive heel-and-toe wear can
lead to the noise you mentioned. Irregular wear can happen when tires
are not rotated and the direction the tires turn is not reversed
periodically. Tires that are not rotated tend to wear more rapidly on
one edge of each tire element or "button" causing a saw tooth type wear
pattern. As tires are rotated, wear evens out.

The tires on your BMW are Bridgestone Potenza RE050A RFT ultra high
performance runflat tires developed specifically for BMW. These tires
use an asymmetric tread pattern to provide the wet and dry grip required
by BMW. Asymmetric tread patterns have one side that should always be
mounted outside (identified by the 'OUTSIDE' marking on the tire
sidewall), but still allow rotation. Also, your tires are different
size front and rear, so the recommended rotation pattern is to cross the
tires on an axle (i.e. Left Front to Right Front; Right Front to Left
Front; and the same for the rear axle). This will reverse the direction
of rotation and even out the heel-and-toe (saw tooth) wear. Our
experience is that it may take a couple of thousand miles to completely
even out the irregular wear, but that you should start hearing a
difference within a couple of hundred miles.

Further, by way of prevention, I would recommend rotating any new set of
tires every 5,000 to 7,000 miles. This will catch that irregular wear
earlier in the process and eliminate it building to a noise issue.

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My apologies, Eric. It has been a long day.

The OEM tires are asymmetrical just as my summer tires are. Thanks for calling me on that before I misinformed others.
If they were directional it would never be recommended to rotate them and reverse the tread due to hydroplaning concerns. If you never drove the car in rain, or were tracking it for example, that would be a situation where you could safely do that, but only then.
Since they are asymmetrical, you can rotate them side to side anytime you like.

Sorry again about any confusion.

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Gill,

It must be the really, really busy season for you!
Thanks so much for your quick response to my question.

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OK, Gill, interested in those Borbet LV5 wheels you guys have listed as being available in a couple weeks with LM-25 205/50 mounted. A couple questions.....

-The anthracite color is hard to grasp in the photo. Looks pretty close to black. I have a black sapphire 1. Is the color close to that or closer to our stock dark grey "diffuser" under the rear bumper?

-Estimated avail. is listed as 11/26. You really expect to have them then/shipping to me mounted before the end of the month? I could wait that long but not much more.

-The site recommends 205/50 tires. You agree? How would you rate the gains of that or any 17'' size Blizzak vs. mounting the 225/40/18 size on the stockers? I get serious snow up here at 6400ft. I have a 325xiT for the bad days but I want to be able to drive my new 1 at least SOME this winter.

Thanks a ton.

Edit: Later found these real world pics: http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/show...=167603&page=2
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Gill- Would you recommend 17x8 Sport Edition F10's on Dunlop SP 205/50/R17 or 18x8 Sport Editions F10's on Dunlop SP 225/40/18? After shipping the price is going to be only $134 more for the 18''s. I've noticed many have gone with 17''s, is more sidewall better for winter?
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