Roundel says M1 to come

Won35i · 07-25-2007, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 123d

Go to his post and click on his name and view other posts by him. Then go to http://www.germancarzone.com/ and search for posts by Scott27

Let me know after you have done if you need more info. :drinking:

Well... cant search on germancarzone, because Im not a member yet, but Ill look his name up on here. That still doesnt say who he really is...

joelk · 07-25-2007, 09:44 PM

scott has a very good track record. as far as i'm concerned this is confirmation that an M1 (by some name) will be made at some time down the road.

i'm going to go ahead and get the 135 then upgrade when the time comes!

looking at the big picture, if it's the goal of bmw to move the m3 to another price-point / luxury level then it makes complete sense to introduce the 135 to fill the gap so they don't leave people behind.

Robert · 07-25-2007, 10:24 PM

Same here. That will be pretty annoying to be locked into a 135i when M1 is released, but US release date isn't until March/08. There are still plenty of time for more news to come out of Munich.

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Originally Posted by Maximus Decimus

Man are you trying to make me cancel my 135i order?????????? Seriously, this is some :bs:man. You're killing me. I will be ETERNALLY pissed if I pick up my 135 and an M1 is available the next day, ETERNALLY!!!! I love you and hate you at the same time. Can you give us a hypothetical situation. You know, if Scott were to design an M1, what it would it have... WWSD?????????

Robert · 07-25-2007, 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by murdoc158

Personally, if BMW does release an M1 I'd love to see something similar to the Hartge H1

That sir, right there is a freakin monster. Imagine Hartge stuffs the new M3 engine in there and prices it $10k below the E92 M3 (which we know won't happen) It will be the day M3 drivers give up their M3 for the M1. I am sure a lot of e46m3 owners will jump on that bad boy.

aesthetect · 07-25-2007, 10:30 PM

im sure it wont be out for at least two years after the 135, but the question is definitely how long.. and im betting V this V is exactly why hes not saying a bit more

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Originally Posted by Maximus Decimus

Man are you trying to make me cancel my 135i order??????????

BForbes · 07-25-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by aesthetect

im sure it wont be out for at least two years after the 135, but the question is definitely how long.. and im betting V this V is exactly why hes not saying a bit more

I agree. At least 1.5-2 years. I mean look how long the M3 took to get here AND we all knew it was coming. Its going to end up being 2yrs after the 335i.

aesthetect · 07-25-2007, 10:50 PM

hopefully they take their time and dont fuck it up by making it too sissy

i was heart set on a 135 the minute i found out we would be getting the n54 in the einer. but i wont be able to actually purchase til around 2010 and after what scott said and developing my idea of what the M1 could be i find it hard to sleep. carbon fiber roof (maybe even more CF panels?), aluminum e46 inline 6 with all the goodies of the m3, less sound deadening, ultra light wheels, even more aggressive front fascia, stiff and adjustable/magnetic suspension, just any kind of drastic weight saving strategy. a small, light, rwd, yet somehow practical, engineering masterpiece, and my timing should be perfect. i can see my black one now, its going to be a long 2.5 years.

Robert · 07-25-2007, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by aesthetect

im sure it wont be out for at least two years after the 135, but the question is definitely how long.. and im betting V this V is exactly why hes not saying a bit more

According to wikipedia 1's current platform is going to be refreshed in 2011 so I believe BMW will either release a M1 3-6 month after the 135i or wait until 2012 to build M1 on the new platform. If we don't hear any news on the M1 by the end of this year I don't think it will come under the E87 platform. Of course, if I am wrong I will eat my own words or eat crow's feet like Jim Cramer.

dmboone25 · 07-25-2007, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by robert

Same here. That will be pretty annoying to be locked into a 135i when M1 is released, but US release date isn't until March/08. There are still plenty of time for more news to come out of Munich.

Well I was starting to get annoyed that my E92 lease still has 2+ years on it...was gonna have to wait for the 135i...now I can just wait on the M1. :biggrin:

aesthetect · 07-26-2007, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by robert

According to wikipedia 1's current platform is going to be refreshed in 2011 so I believe BMW will either release a M1 3-6 month after the 135i or wait until 2012 to build M1 on the new platform. If we don't hear any news on the M1 by the end of this year I don't think it will come under the E87 platform. Of course, if I am wrong I will eat my own words or eat crow's feet like Jim Cramer.

yeah you do have a point, mostly because the 1 series was really released (overseas) in 2004. but that means they will only be running the coupe, the only model being introduced to NA, for 3 years; thats a lot of investment for such short product life. also i wouldnt hold that as the most credible source as it was from a graph and not in stated text and is probably just a guess based on the idea of the standard bmw chassis cycle. but i guess really the only alternative i could suggest is they evolve the 3/5dr separately.. which i dont buy into but i still cant help but doubt that they pull or remodel the coupe after 2-3 years.

Robert · 07-26-2007, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by aesthetect

yeah you do have a point, mostly because the 1 series was really released (overseas) in 2004. but that means they will only be running the coupe, the only model being introduced to NA, for 3 years; thats a lot of investment for such short product life. also i wouldnt hold that as the most credible source as it was from a graph and not in stated text and is probably just a guess based on the idea of the standard bmw chassis cycle. but i guess really the only alternative i could suggest is they evolve the 3/5dr separately.. which i dont buy into but i still cant help but doubt that they pull or remodel the coupe after 2-3 years.

Please please please release M1 the same time frame as 135i

joelk · 07-26-2007, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by robert

Please please please release M1 the same time frame as 135i

my guess is that it will be released a couple of years down the road. that's my guess. think of all the pissed off 135iers if they released it within a year of the 135i. :iono:

Maximus Decimus · 07-26-2007, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by joelk

my guess is that it will be released a couple of years down the road. that's my guess. think of all the pissed off 135iers if they released it within a year of the 135i. :iono:

BMW has done this sort of thing in the past, the very recent past. My heart goes out to all those that bought the E90 330 and shortly thereafter the 335 was released. That's why these forums are essential. Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to buying a car.

SCA · 07-26-2007, 07:56 AM

While the CCA and The Roundel are great! The Roundel has never been known as a reliable source for knowledge of what is in the pipeline or being considered by the board of directors.

joelk · 07-26-2007, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Decimus

BMW has done this sort of thing in the past, the very recent past. My heart goes out to all those that bought the E90 330 and shortly thereafter the 335 was released. That's why these forums are essential. Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to buying a car.

serious question because i don't know the answer: how long had the E90 330 been produced prior to the introduction of the 335i?

SCA · 07-26-2007, 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Maximus Decimus

BMW has done this sort of thing in the past, the very recent past. My heart goes out to all those that bought the E90 330 and shortly thereafter the 335 was released. That's why these forums are essential. Ignorance is not bliss when it comes to buying a car.

You are correct. I am one of those people, :frown: but I also ordered my 330 six months after they had been released. It is still a great car!

SCA · 07-26-2007, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by joelk

serious question because i don't know the answer: how long had the E90 330 been produced prior to the introduction of the 335i?

E90 production began in Feb. 2005 (325 & 330). BMW Center demos arrived at the end of April, the first of May and the US launch was May 14th. Production ran until August of 2006. Sept 2006 was when the E90 335i began production.

joelk · 07-26-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDriver

E90 production began in Feb. 2005 (325 & 330). BMW Center demos arrived at the end of April, the first of May and the US launch was May 14th. Production ran until August of 2006. Sept 2006 was when the E90 335i began production.

so about a year and a half between them. maybe i should just lease the 135 for two years.

larryn · 07-26-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDriver

E90 production began in Feb. 2005 (325 & 330). BMW Center demos arrived at the end of April, the first of May and the US launch was May 14th. Production ran until August of 2006. Sept 2006 was when the E90 335i began production.

I took European Delivery of my E90 330i in mid-May 2005, the 2nd week they were available to those of us in the States.

Same thing happened to me with my E46 though. They only made the E46 323i and 328i for two model years and the 328ci for only one model year before the 325/330 were introduced.

It's really not a big deal to me. It's good to see BMW improving the product, and I still get to use a car that I'm pretty happy with.

SCA · 07-26-2007, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by joelk

so about a year and a half between them. maybe i should just lease the 135 for two years.

If you want a M version of the 1-Series Coupe that might be the best thing to do. Granted the M version may not happen. :iono:

BForbes · 07-26-2007, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by joelk

my guess is that it will be released a couple of years down the road. that's my guess. think of all the pissed off 135iers if they released it within a year of the 135i. :iono:

I dont think a lot of 135i buyers would be pissed. I would be happy driving my incredible 33k 135i. Its not like its going to be the same price as a 135i. Its likely gonna come in a good 10-12,000 more!

Won35i · 07-26-2007, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by onehots2k

I dont think a lot of 135i buyers would be pissed. I would be happy driving my incredible 33k 135i. Its not like its going to be the same price as a 135i. Its likely gonna come in a good 10-12,000 more!

Yeah easily!

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joelk Lieutenant Colonel 37 Rep 1,680 Posts Drives: Space Gray E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Atlanta iTrader: (0)	scott has a very good track record. as far as i'm concerned this is confirmation that an M1 (by some name) will be made at some time down the road. i'm going to go ahead and get the 135 then upgrade when the time comes! looking at the big picture, if it's the goal of bmw to move the m3 to another price-point / luxury level then it makes complete sense to introduce the 135 to fill the gap so they don't leave people behind.
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aesthetect form follows function 38 Rep 838 Posts Drives: GC impreza Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: austin tx iTrader: (0)	hopefully they take their time and dont fuck it up by making it too sissy i was heart set on a 135 the minute i found out we would be getting the n54 in the einer. but i wont be able to actually purchase til around 2010 and after what scott said and developing my idea of what the M1 could be i find it hard to sleep. carbon fiber roof (maybe even more CF panels?), aluminum e46 inline 6 with all the goodies of the m3, less sound deadening, ultra light wheels, even more aggressive front fascia, stiff and adjustable/magnetic suspension, just any kind of drastic weight saving strategy. a small, light, rwd, yet somehow practical, engineering masterpiece, and my timing should be perfect. i can see my black one now, its going to be a long 2.5 years.
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