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Both manual CS/Comp are listed by BMW having same DIN and EU weights: DIN - 1550 kg or 3417 lbs EU - 1625 kg or 3582 lbs 75kg ballast accounted for in EU curb weight. Last edited by DieGrüneHölle; 12-17-2019 at 09:31 PM.. |
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Interesting that the CS can hang with the GT4 on a short track but isn't worth the money. It just seems even better once you factor in the utility. Certainly doesn't have the GT4 cool factor, but hey, neither do baby seats.
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I always knew the M2C is going to be the bargain of the century. Thats why when it was launched and I knew I had only one chance to own a sports car (with family, money, other challenges and what not), I just went for it. It ticked off all the boxes. Rear seats for kids, Practical, Fast, BMW, Polarizing color, DCT, Modern, 400hp rwd, < $60k and handles fantastic. There are some people who might have more boxes like carbon roof/bonnet/bits, adaptive suspension, 450hp, more exclusive and < $85k. The M2 CS is for them.
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12-18-2019, 05:38 AM | #865 | |
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When I bought my 1M I cross-shopped it against only 1 other car——Cayman R. Decent car preferred the 1M. If I'd bought the a Cayman R none of the past 4.5 years of memories would have been possible. My son wasn't born when I cross-shopped these but the Cayman would have been sold as soon as I knew we were having a kid. The 1M was kept and has been perfect as a family car for 3. NO cayman can do what an M2 or 1M or M3 or M4 can do. None.
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I really wonder if it will achieve the unique status that the 1M has. For those of us who bought into the 1M process and purchase, we got lucky. Nobody knew in advance that the car would reach cult status. The stars aligned.
The M2CS has the limited production, power and looks. But Jeremy Clarkson is gone and BMW already did this once in 2011. We'll see. |
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None of us knew in 2010/2011 the cult status that our 1M's would reach. We all bought into the car because it was just "right", a wonderful combination of a semi-rogue production staff at BMW, a mix of tested M3 parts and a power plant/transmission that just made the car a screamer. Then, limited production, limited colors and tons of outstanding reviews by everyone who could, or who would drive it.
Timing was spot on, the market was ready. But now, Jeremy is gone, and we'll have to see if the M2CS has what it takes to make it a cult car. |
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12-18-2019, 08:20 AM | #869 | |
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So it takes 2 storage areas to barely be larger than one? I can't miraculously cut my large stuff in half, and put one in the front and one in the rear. If the frunk is anything like the 911's, it's very deep, but that's about it. It isn't particularly wide or long, it's just a deep hole with a narrow opening. The rear is essentially 2 shelves, and they don't look incredibly useful either. I'm not saying I use my M2 to pick up some 2x4's, but the trunk in the M2 is much much larger than I thought it would be. |
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12-18-2019, 08:27 AM | #870 | |
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You are listing opinions. Some prefer adaptive suspension, others do not. I'm with you, I don't necessarily think they're all that cool, I would prefer a proper coilover setup, but I can't adjust that inside the car... As for braking, carbons are much better than their steel counterparts, in both performance and weight. They have their trade offs, but on paper they are better. Just because you don't like them doesn't mean no one else is allowed to like them. As for the tune, you own a 2020 (like me), so you can't tune it. That whole argument is 100% out the window, since (at the current moment) you can't flash your ECU at all (unless you're willing to do a bench flash), therefore, irrelevant. Enjoy your M2C, mod it like you want to mod it. I for one love the way the CS looks, and would love to have the carbon bits, especially the roof and front lip. |
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Pricing and desirability is a big component. Most people forget the 1M was priced at $47k. The most affordable M car ever. All cars manual gearbox. 3 colours. This was a car that shook up the scene. We hadn't seen anything like it from BMW since the 2002 Turbo in the 1970s. The 1M was also a ridiculously simple car. Basic and minimally decorated with function over form. Dealers had a list a mile long waiting for a 1M and they were quickly gone. I bought mine used 2 years later for above MSRP as did many others... Now the M2 CS is priced way higher and comes at the tail end of a series of M2s which were already good. The car is not a surprise in any way most people have known it was coming. It's not a car that will "shock" people the way the 1M did. Will it become a future classic? Possible..time will tell. But it's not going to do it the way the 1M did it. It will have to find its own way and its own method to become a classic.
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The CS seems to have generated a ton of hype, and if the rumor of <500 units in the US is true, then I'd be willing to bet that there won't be any sitting on dealer lots. I don't think dealers are going to order an $85,000 2 series to sit in the showroom if no one has paid a deposit on one. |
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It's also naive to believe that BMW can't sell 500 of the hottest car they've produced in a awhile. They'll all be accounted for before they even hit the showrooms. Just watch.. |
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I get it, you have a Comp etc. But to say that like the CS is not going to outperform it in every single category is crazy talk. (Downgrade) The engineers at M made the necessary tweaks etc to make this even faster and more gripping on the road and tack. Once the figures come out, you will see what no sense comment you made. I have an OG M2 and I love it. I know the Comp out performs mines. But don't be sour and say the CS is "riced out" etc. The fact that this is the first CS with a manual is also a beautiful thing. If it is not in your budget, thats ok. No need to hate on the better M2 either. |
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But that's a whole other forum.. Back to subject at hand; M2 CS is so gosh-darn expensive for mere mortals. |
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