New video of the BMW M1 / 1M @ the ring (very nicely shot)

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by Alumac

Quads have become a staple for M cars for awhile now, so that would be why people expect them, or "obsess" about them.

I agree that the quads have become a staple to identify M cars, but I don't think that means all future M cars should require quads. What if BMW were to use the Performance exhaust, but modify it to exit the center of the bumper similar to that of a Boxster? I think that could look pretty good. Back in the day, the E24 6 series and E28 5 series had somewhat central exiting exhaust pipes.

[M2]

Originally Posted by Levi

I want quads because I want the "M1" to be a real M, it means it has to distinguish itself from the 135i M and 135i Performance.

So are you saying if the Motorsport Division of BMW develops and produces this 1M/M1 but it didnt come with quads, then that car would not be a real M car?

I've seen current 135i's with quads, does this make them an M car?

These are both rhetorical questions...

[ChrisK]

Originally Posted by M2

So are you saying if the Motorsport Division of BMW develops and produces this 1M/M1 but it didnt come with quads, then that car would not be a real M car?

I've seen current 135i's with quads, does this make them an M car?

These are both rhetorical questions...

+1

[Spartikus]

Originally Posted by M2

So are you saying if the Motorsport Division of BMW develops and produces this 1M/M1 but it didnt come with quads, then that car would not be a real M car?

I've seen current 135i's with quads, does this make them an M car?

These are both rhetorical questions...

-1.

That is clearly not what he meant. Visually many of us want the M car to differ from the current 1 range as much as possible aesthetically/performance-wise. Nothing wrong with that.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by Spartikus

-1.

That is clearly not what he meant. Visually many of us want the M car to differ from the current 1 range as much as possible aesthetically/performance-wise. Nothing wrong with that.

I tend to agree--the quads, as mentioned before, have become a staple of current ///M cars. The M1 should be no different....

On a different note--I am beginning to like the idea of ///M Turbo as a name...

[rubber_ducky]

Originally Posted by Alumac

And to those that don't understand why people want quads.... Are you just trying to be obtuse or are you all really that stupid? People want the quads because that is what every M car has come with for about 10 years now. Simple.

Originally Posted by Alumac

Reading comprehension FTL.... If you want to get technical, 2 models prior to the e46 M3 had quads; the M5 and Z3M.

I don't care either way so long as the car performs reasonably well. However, I don't get how so many people don't understand why people want quads. No amount of arguing is going to change it. Quads have become a staple for M cars for awhile now, so that would be why people expect them, or "obsess" about them.

I comprehended just fine... I just don't subscribe to your theory that since quads have been on M cars for the magical time period of 10 years, it should never change.

[Sephiroth]

I wish it would be confirmed as an N/A engine. That's the biggest reason I'm considering the M3 still.

[dmboone25]

Originally Posted by 1love

I wish it would be confirmed as an N/A engine. That's the biggest reason I'm considering the M3 still.

This ///M, and the new ones following it, will be FI. That is just a fact.

[Alumac]

Originally Posted by dmboone25

This ///M, and the new ones following it, will be FI. That is just a fact.

+1

Go ahead and get the M3 if you want an NA engine 1love.

[Cornhusker]

I'm bored, I need something real now.

[oztiks]

I want my 1m/m1 to have 4 turbos instead...

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Alumac

+1

Go ahead and get the M3 if you want an NA engine 1love.

Thats probably what ill end up doing...but im going to wait till we know all the facts about the M1 first. Gives me some time to save some cash too.

[sid33]

Yea the odds of this thing being an NA engine are slim to none ..... and slim left town ...


That being said it would be sweet

[RäDIOCLäSH]

Originally Posted by zuggerat89

I kinda think theyre running the M... whatever it is, with M3s so they drown out the noise of the new car. Makes it harder for us to tell wtf is going on.

There's hardly any noise to drown out.IMO.I think they're running the M1 in close proximity to an M3 (on the track)so we will associate the coming M1 with the sound of the M3.If they can make the 335is sound "badass",then they sure as hell need to make the M1 sound that much more righteous!......whether it has 2 pipes,4 or however many.

[Beemer323]

Originally Posted by GeeRam

I agree.

I really can't get my head around this anal obsession with quads that so many people have

Because this looks horn:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...31&postcount=1

And a full Ti quad system will weigh less* than the 135i performance exhaust...


*not entirely sure but it would sound horn.

[pDz]

Originally Posted by Beemer323

Because this looks horn:

http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...31&postcount=1

And a full Ti quad system will weigh less* than the 135i performance exhaust...


*not entirely sure but it would sound horn.

it's nice that they differentiate M cars via a twin dual exhaust system.

mechanically speaking, if you look under the rear diffuser, you can see that generally speaking, from a flow perspective, a lot of that is purely cosmetic. so from my perspective, i don't care. i agree it looks cooler, but to have a giant muffler that combines the exhaust gas that either goes out to twin duals or a dual --don't care.

i still think they will not use the M1 name because of history. i think it will be like the X5M and the X6M where the "//Motorsport division" has touched the car but is not an "M1" as badged.

[cotenseto]

Man enough about the quad/lack of quad. How about discussing the fact that even though the vid showed minimal body roll, the rear height seems like it would distrupt the center of gravity. Bet you could gain a few 10ths by having that backside settle in a bit more.

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[NoMetalAlchemist]

Can't see the vid. Whats the format and any extra links to watch?

Personally, I want the quads. I think it looks way better, and it usually sounds better. I can't wait for this car but its gonna be a tough choice between this or an S1000RR seeings how I already own a 325i. This car looks beastly though!

[ManGGouste]

Originally Posted by Evice

Call me crazy... the way it sounds on heel-n-toe around 30s mark.....sounds to me like an NA...

My opinion too, but evenmore my wish !

After all, wouldn't that make sense ?

M1 : 6L
M3 : V8
M5 : V10

All of them hi-revolving... This would be fantastic to have the N55 offering 8500 rpms....

[NoMetalAlchemist]

That would be pretty sweet having a High RPM NA N55. Would make that like a pocket rocket. If I had my way, It would be a 3.2l or 3.5l I6 NA with a red at 8600. They did it with the E46 M3 S54 block. However its probably much cheaper to use FI than tune an engine to produce that much HP and torque. They are trying to make the ///m e82 as cheap as possible to attract younger and newer buyers. Not everyone studies up on car specifics like some of us. They just say "Wow, 350hp!!! 0-60 in <5 seconds! Hmmm, not too expensive. I Want!" My younger brother is like that. He wants a faster cheap car. If he can buy it fast, he doesn't care whats under the hood aside from specs. And for some younger buyers mostly <27, Turbocharging sounds way better than it is, on a stock car thats supposed to be fast of course. On a properly tuned car like the E60 M5 G-Force Hurricane, FI makes the car standout and even rape the competition.

[BMW269]

Originally Posted by NoMetalAlchemist

That would be pretty sweet having a High RPM NA N55. Would make that like a pocket rocket. If I had my way, It would be a 3.2l or 3.5l I6 NA with a red at 8600. They did it with the E46 M3 S54 block. However its probably much cheaper to use FI than tune an engine to produce that much HP and torque. They are trying to make the ///m e82 as cheap as possible to attract younger and newer buyers. Not everyone studies up on car specifics like some of us. They just say "Wow, 350hp!!! 0-60 in <5 seconds! Hmmm, not too expensive. I Want!" My younger brother is like that. He wants a faster cheap car. If he can buy it fast, he doesn't care whats under the hood aside from specs. And for some younger buyers <27, Turbocharging sounds way better than it is, on a stock car thats supposed to be fast of course. On a properly tuned car like the E60 M5 G-Force Hurricane, FI makes the car standout and even rape the competition.

I am 20 and what I want is a very fast and light NA car. I would not want BMW to put the S54 because it is even heavier than the S65, and the 1 Series would become even more nose-heavy. But there are very few. I am considering the new Toyota FT-86 with MT, RWD and NA 2.0l Flat 4.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by Levi

I am 20 and what I want is a very fast and light NA car. I would not want BMW to put the S54 because it is even heavier than the S65, and the 1 Series would become even more nose-heavy. But there are very few. I am considering the new Toyota FT-86 with MT, RWD and NA 2.0l Flat 4.

I'm 19 and I personally don't see why people want to BMW to put an engine into the M1 that was first released when I was 10. I've had rides in E46 M3s and I listen too them all the time at autox. I personally think that they sound like crap, but that's just me. I also have a nack of postig faster lap times than E46 Ms in my 3600 lb vert. I realize that some of that is the fact that I'm a decent driver, but it's an old design, and quite frankly, BMW can do much better. they've already proved that with the N54