Its official: The 2007 Model Year Calender (328, 335, no turbo)

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 06:21 PM

According to the ending posts in this thread:
SpeedFreak

...it is indeed true that:

- the 325 will be replaced with a 235 hp 328 (probably with direct injection) and
- the 330 will be replaced by a 335 : a 3.5 liter 310+hp normally aspirated variant of the 3.0 liter, probably also w/direct injection.
- No turbos.

Thoughts anyone? Please discuss.

Mark · 11-11-2005, 06:27 PM

Well, if it is true, this is the greatest news of my life

a 3.5l i-6 has been my dream for over 10 years now, please oh please I hope that is actually true and we get that instead of a turbo...

I do find it strange that BMW would get rid of the current 255hp 3.0l tho ? Thats the only part of this that makes me a bit suspect.. But we shall see !

ABR · 11-11-2005, 06:29 PM

It is never ending story, like with computers: newer, faster, bla-bla-bla...

I'm happy with my current ride. End of story.

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 06:31 PM

Thy're not getting rid of it....they'll probably just use it in the new 328, with the 3 Stage intake. Come to think of it, its most likely that only the 335 engine will have direct injection.

Hornet · 11-11-2005, 06:41 PM

The new direct-injection engines will be availabe next year, introduced in the E92 models and after that gradually in all 3-series petrol models. This is the info I've been reading from various german magazines lately. This is obviously for the european models.

I doubt they will increase the power, maybe a little. The key point of this new technology is the lower fuel consumption.

YYimports · 11-11-2005, 06:42 PM

Honestly theres been so many rumors about the turbo, 335, etc.. I'll believe it when I see it, though it'd be awesome to see a 3.5L 335!

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 06:48 PM

Guys, you don't get it.
There is a 3.5 liter variant of the 3.0 liter engine.
It WILL debut in the E92 first...then in the E90 next September.
I wouldn't doubt if this engine was created solely for the U.S. market...something that seems to be happening more & more often these days. Its clear to me now that whatever was going on with turbos was in a diesel model.

3aficionado · 11-11-2005, 06:48 PM

I've read the whole 5 page thread. It seems most of the information is not supported by any sources... at least not ones supplied to anyone in the thread. It sounds like there is rumor creating rumor in this thread. Some of it seems plausible but with no supplied sources it's no better than rumor. And the best rumors are ones that are plausible even though they may not be based in any fact.

I hope some of what was written is true but I can't put much stock in the info after reading the whole thread.

By the way "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who"* says the new hardtop convertible will have a sunroof! I just thought I would start my own plausible rumor that is not based in any fact with no sources identified.

* Quote from Ferris Bueller's Day Off

2006bmw · 11-11-2005, 06:54 PM

I'll be pissed if I'm getting a 330i in the very last year they are making one and a new 335i is around the corner. I'd guess that the base $$ bump will not be all that much. I would have been able to get the 335 for the same money as what I paid for my 330, minus an option or two. Oh well, I guess that's why it's only a three-year lease.

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 3aficionado

I've read the whole 5 page thread. It seems most of the information is not supported by any sources... at least not ones supplied to anyone in the thread. It sounds like there is rumor creating rumor in this thread. Some of it seems plausible but with no supplied sources it's no better than rumor. And the best rumors are ones that are plausible even though they may not be based in any fact.

I hope some of what was written is true but I can't put much stock in the info after reading the whole thread.

By the way "My best friend's sister's boyfriend's brother's girlfriend heard from this guy who knows this kid who"* says the new hardtop convertible will have a sunroof! I just thought I would start my own plausible rumor that is not based in any fact with no sources identified.

* Quote from Ferris Bueller's Day Off

The thread from Bimmerfest was answered by Speedfreak, a BMW salesperson. There is in fact, a calender issued by BMWNA from time to time, that shows model rollout dates. In November of 1999 I saw such a calender, which clearly showed me the release of a 325i & Ci starting in October of 2000.

As such, I have no reason to believe SpeedFreak is making this up.

3aficionado · 11-11-2005, 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost8found

Honestly theres been so many rumors about the turbo, 335, etc.. I'll believe it when I see it, though it'd be awesome to see a 3.5L 335!

I agree, its a lot of rumor right now. The best source I've seen on the turbo 335 subject is at leftlane. But even they have been known to get caught up in the rumor mill. http://www.leftlanenews.com/?p=216

Who knows if a turbo would be put into a 3. If it did who knows if it would make it to the US. I guess we'll only know in many months when real information is released at auto shows.

timzerofive · 11-11-2005, 06:59 PM

Damn, that means I gotta trade in my lease next year.

Oz · 11-11-2005, 06:59 PM

I'm really not going to believe until BMW releases something official. There are way too many rumors out in the net..

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Oz

I'm really not going to believe until BMW releases something official. There are way too many rumors out in the net..

Look guys, to quote Arnold Schwartzenegger from "Kindergarten Cop":
"Its not a TUMOR"....errr RUMOR.
This crap is in print & is currently sitting in BMW sales manager's offices all over the country!

Oz · 11-11-2005, 07:05 PM

I would like to see a copy of that here to believe it...

JonnyCrash · 11-11-2005, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichReg

Look guys, to quote Arnold Schwartzenegger from "Kindergarten Cop":
"Its not a TUMOR"....errr RUMOR.
This crap is in print & is currently sitting in BMW sales manager's offices all over the country!

I'm sure it is. In fact, I currently have OJ's signed confession in a drawer here someplace, and I'm pretty sure that Jimmy Hoffa is still chillin' in my sun room. I know you're pretty stoked about this RichReg, but the proof will be when the official announcement comes. Until then, everything is changeable.

Drive safe.

3aficionado · 11-11-2005, 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichReg

The thread from Bimmerfest was answered by Speedfreak, a BMW salesperson. There is in fact, a calender issued by BMWNA from time to time, that shows model rollout dates. In November of 1999 I saw such a calender, which clearly showed me the release of a 325i & Ci starting in October of 2000.

As such, I have no reason to believe SpeedFreak is making this up.

I understand you have confidence in a BMW salesperson. To each their own. My experience with salespeople is that most (not all) know less about the cars they sell than the fanatics that buy them. My point was I consider rumor anything in that thread not backed up by a source or documentation. Ask SpeedFreak to post that calendar and maybe others can verify it’s authenticity.

Didn’t anyone take a writing class in college? Have we all forgotten about citing sources and verification when stating facts?

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 07:10 PM

I will bet you that if you walked into your dealership & asked to talk to the sales manager, he would show it to you. Open Road BMW's sales manager showed it to me quite a few times. Of course, since I bought my 330 somewhere else, fat chance of that happening for me anytime soon.

shimshimhada · 11-11-2005, 07:10 PM

lol, if that's really true it means my ZHP won't hold its own anymore against E90s...

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 07:12 PM

O.K. fine.
I'll call Open Road BMW tomorrow anonymously & report back to you guys.
And Park Avenue BMW as well.

ON325i · 11-11-2005, 07:18 PM

Long Live my 325i

RichReg · 11-11-2005, 07:29 PM

....and my 330i.

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RichReg Colonel 121 Rep 2,099 Posts Drives: 2015 435Xi GC & 2000 323Ci. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Thy're not getting rid of it....they'll probably just use it in the new 328, with the 3 Stage intake. Come to think of it, its most likely that only the 335 engine will have direct injection.
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Hornet Lieutenant 59 Rep 410 Posts Drives: g20 330d xdrive Join Date: May 2005 Location: Finland iTrader: (0)	The new direct-injection engines will be availabe next year, introduced in the E92 models and after that gradually in all 3-series petrol models. This is the info I've been reading from various german magazines lately. This is obviously for the european models. I doubt they will increase the power, maybe a little. The key point of this new technology is the lower fuel consumption.
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YYimports First Lieutenant 54 Rep 306 Posts Drives: TitanSilver E90 Join Date: May 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Honestly theres been so many rumors about the turbo, 335, etc.. I'll believe it when I see it, though it'd be awesome to see a 3.5L 335!
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RichReg Colonel 121 Rep 2,099 Posts Drives: 2015 435Xi GC & 2000 323Ci. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	Guys, you don't get it. There is a 3.5 liter variant of the 3.0 liter engine. It WILL debut in the E92 first...then in the E90 next September. I wouldn't doubt if this engine was created solely for the U.S. market...something that seems to be happening more & more often these days. Its clear to me now that whatever was going on with turbos was in a diesel model.
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RichReg Colonel 121 Rep 2,099 Posts Drives: 2015 435Xi GC & 2000 323Ci. Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0)	....and my 330i.
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