all of you dct haters

brocklanders · 07-06-2014, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by bmw1racer

Parked cars don't count.

Since when? That guy never saw it coming!

lo-tek · 07-06-2014, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Overpar56

I can't wait for the CVT option to be available. Much superior to a manual or DCT.

Um what? No thanks.

ilikebmxbikes · 07-06-2014, 04:45 PM

glad you like your dct

Kgolf31 · 07-06-2014, 05:10 PM

Ok.

cagekicker · 07-06-2014, 07:06 PM

If you tell yourself that enough then one day you will believe it. We manual drivers know better! oh and this quicker off the line arguement doesnt cut it. IT'S ABOUT THE FEEL OF THE CAR!

fcman · 07-07-2014, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by cagekicker

If you tell yourself that enough then one day you will believe it. We manual drivers know better! oh and this quicker off the line arguement doesnt cut it. IT'S ABOUT THE FEEL OF THE CAR!

If you care about feel you bought the wrong car. Can't wait to get myself back into a proper sports car and retire this thing to DD duty.

shah269 · 07-07-2014, 11:09 AM

Driving stick is a lot like having a dog.
You are always the DD and always have to be good. Because no one can drive your car.
So in a way a stick keeps you level.

MightyMouseTech · 07-07-2014, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by brocklanders

Last night I smoked a Camaro .

That wasn't very nice....

Wakka · 07-07-2014, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by shah269

Driving stick is a lot like having a dog.
You are always the DD and always have to be good. Because no one can drive your car.
So in a way a stick keeps you level.

Literally all my friends can drive stick... maybe a couple of the girlfriends cannot.

MightyMouseTech · 07-07-2014, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Wakka

Literally all my friends can drive stick... maybe a couple of the girlfriends cannot.

HA! My sister actually can't drive an auto. Was in a rental car with her and she kept hitting the brake pedal as if it was the clutch.

pick333 · 07-07-2014, 12:02 PM

Having three choices for shifting rather than one (manual) is nice. But I can see both sides of the perpetual argument. It's perpetual because there is no "correct" answer. Personal preference. Even for me it's hard, because I like both.

Simsims · 07-07-2014, 12:33 PM

as i've always said

the only thing wrong with DCTs is that they're not manual.

that's all.

Esteban · 07-07-2014, 01:21 PM

Almost everybody who has ever driven a manual knows it's more fun and would prefer it to an automatic. Those people who have driven a manual in the past and now drive an automatic either have a physical reason (like me) why they don't drive a manual anymore or they drive in too much traffic and a manual is a pita. A DCT is still faster than a manual though.

SAM135iAM · 07-07-2014, 01:37 PM

I love my DCT as well. It is fun using paddle shifters and the sound is great. However, I got to drive my buddies 2014 Honda Si coupe yesterday. That was the most fun car I've driven in a long time...and I drove a F430 just last month. There isn't to many things better than banging some gears around the good ol' fashion way. Driving a manual is so similar jerking off...it just feels awesome! With that said, I still would not trade my 135i DCT for a 135i 6MT.

brocklanders · 07-07-2014, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

Almost everybody who has ever driven a manual knows it's more fun and would prefer it to an automatic. Those people who have driven a manual in the past and now drive an automatic either have a physical reason (like me) why they don't drive a manual anymore or they drive in too much traffic and a manual is a pita. A DCT is still faster than a manual though.

I have no disabilities and personally think that the people who complain about traffic are not true manual fans, I've had a manual for the last seven years and never once cared about traffic. I was a manual or nothing driver just a few moths ago, now the more I drive this car the more I like it, it is as engaging as a true manual, I'm not debating this I live with this car I know. I wont sit here and say its perfect because its not but when you spend some time with it and learn to manipulate it is an awesome experience.

Esteban · 07-07-2014, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by brocklanders

I have no disabilities and personally think that the people who complain about traffic are not true manual fans, I've had a manual for the last seven years and never once cared about traffic. I was a manual or nothing driver just a few moths ago, now the more I drive this car the more I like it, it is as engaging as a true manual, I'm not debating this I live with this car I know. I wont sit here and say its perfect because its not but when you spend some time with it and learn to manipulate it is an awesome experience.

Have you ever driven on the 405 freeway in LA with a manual in rush hour traffic? Its considered the worst traffic in the country. I have and it's terrible. you would long for an automatic. I know how to drive my DCT too! I only drive it in manual mode with the sports button pressed and I think it's an awesome experience also. I am a true manual fan but that kind of traffic day after day will ruin the experience. I too love my DCT but given the right situation, imho a manual is just more fun.

fcman · 07-07-2014, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by brocklanders

I have no disabilities and personally think that the people who complain about traffic are not true manual fans, I've had a manual for the last seven years and never once cared about traffic. I was a manual or nothing driver just a few moths ago, now the more I drive this car the more I like it, it is as engaging as a true manual, I'm not debating this I live with this car I know. I wont sit here and say its perfect because its not but when you spend some time with it and learn to manipulate it is an awesome experience.

Yup I daily drove an S2000 for 4 years or so which has arguably the best feeling transmission in the world and the DCT is a freaking blast. I love slamming through the gears like I'm driving some sort of Ferrari. I enjoy a good manual as well but a non-M BMW is definitely not a car that I feel needs a manual, the one I drove felt closer to a wrangler than an s2000 in terms of feel.

brocklanders · 07-07-2014, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EvenEsteban

Have you ever driven on the 405 freeway in LA with a manual in rush hour traffic? Its considered the worst traffic in the country. I have and it's terrible. you would long for an automatic. I know how to drive my DCT too! I only drive it in manual mode with the sports button pressed and I think it's an awesome experience also. I am a true manual fan but that kind of traffic day after day will ruin the experience. I too love my DCT but given the right situation, imho a manual is just more fun.

Sorry, I was not trying to attack you in any way. I do live in Houston it is not L.A. but some would say comparable. I have been stuck in traffic but I do not daily commute to work so I don't have to deal with it regularly.

Esteban · 07-07-2014, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by brocklanders

Sorry, I was not trying to attack you in any way. I do live in Houston it is not L.A. but some would say comparable. I have been stuck in traffic but I do not daily commute to work so I don't have to deal with it regularly.

No problem, friend - just expressing my opinion as you were - that's why we're here.

Vigilante375 · 07-07-2014, 03:21 PM

About the only downside of having a manual vehicle is if you live in an area where traffic is a nightmare. Stop and go traffic sucks, its even worse for us who ride motorcycles.

I test drove a DCT equipped 135i and it was great but wanted to get a manual from the get go. I should have went with the DCT just to have the experience of owning a great piece of engineering but I still love driving my 6 spd.

mike@x-ph.com · 07-07-2014, 03:27 PM

CAVU · 07-07-2014, 05:27 PM

Still waiting for the CVT option... maybe some of us DCT pansies can get together and do a retrofit DIY!

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cagekicker Major 16 Rep 1,335 Posts Drives: '09 crimson red 135i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: miami (vice city) fl. iTrader: (0)	If you tell yourself that enough then one day you will believe it. We manual drivers know better! oh and this quicker off the line arguement doesnt cut it. IT'S ABOUT THE FEEL OF THE CAR! __________________ 6MT/ Sport Package/ N54/ Asa wheels/ Eibach pro kit springs/ Active autowerke Exhaust/ 35% tint
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shah269 Major 315 Rep 1,035 Posts Drives: 2009 Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	Driving stick is a lot like having a dog. You are always the DD and always have to be good. Because no one can drive your car. So in a way a stick keeps you level.
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pick333 Private 42 Rep 98 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW series 1 135i Join Date: May 2013 Location: Denver, CO iTrader: (0)	Having three choices for shifting rather than one (manual) is nice. But I can see both sides of the perpetual argument. It's perpetual because there is no "correct" answer. Personal preference. Even for me it's hard, because I like both.
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Simsims Captain 37 Rep 615 Posts Drives: 119/220 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Ottawa iTrader: (0)	as i've always said the only thing wrong with DCTs is that they're not manual. that's all. __________________ VO 1M - everything except sunroof RIP BSM 135i 2009-2011
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Esteban Major General 43338 Rep 7,224 Posts Drives: a slow car fast Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: SoCal iTrader: (0)	Almost everybody who has ever driven a manual knows it's more fun and would prefer it to an automatic. Those people who have driven a manual in the past and now drive an automatic either have a physical reason (like me) why they don't drive a manual anymore or they drive in too much traffic and a manual is a pita. A DCT is still faster than a manual though.
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07-07-2014, 01:37 PM	#36
SAM135iAM Lieutenant 51 Rep 403 Posts Drives: 11' 135i DCT Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Dallas Texas iTrader: (0)	I love my DCT as well. It is fun using paddle shifters and the sound is great. However, I got to drive my buddies 2014 Honda Si coupe yesterday. That was the most fun car I've driven in a long time...and I drove a F430 just last month. There isn't to many things better than banging some gears around the good ol' fashion way. Driving a manual is so similar jerking off...it just feels awesome! With that said, I still would not trade my 135i DCT for a 135i 6MT. __________________ Cobb AP, ETS FMIC, ETS CP, BMS CAI
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Vigilante375 Major 116 Rep 1,158 Posts Drives: 2012 AW 6M 135i Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: WA iTrader: (0)	About the only downside of having a manual vehicle is if you live in an area where traffic is a nightmare. Stop and go traffic sucks, its even worse for us who ride motorcycles. I test drove a DCT equipped 135i and it was great but wanted to get a manual from the get go. I should have went with the DCT just to have the experience of owning a great piece of engineering but I still love driving my 6 spd.
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