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      05-06-2019, 05:20 PM   #23
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David is very fast (local here in Florida)... how do you all feel going against the M2?
We have won against the M2 last year. The M2 is undeveloped compared to my 1M. When someone puts the time in to develop a M2 it's got to be faster.

My car won the pro in 2017 and SCCA Nats In 2018. We are the old boxing champ that someone has to beat. Until then we are still the reigning defending fastest car in b street
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There's another 1M competing in B Street in the Finger Lakes Region this weekend, we'll see how they do but it looks like some tough competition up there.
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There's another 1M competing in B Street in the Finger Lakes Region this weekend, we'll see how they do but it looks like some tough competition up there.
I'm guessing that is Matt. Matt's car is running mostly what was sorted out back in the 2013ish. Think he has some 18 inch wheels. Probably cost about 5k to buy the parts and user our setup.

With the Tesla entering the class, probably not worth it.
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      05-28-2019, 04:35 PM   #28
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Headed back from the racing and got in an m2 today. Much faster car than the 1m. We are shopping right now.
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Mid-year thoughts

Texas Tour the 1M was 1st and 3rd and paxed 3rd and 38th over all. It was cold and canít remember if it was raining.

MS Pro was a wakeup call in the super wet we were 2nd and 3rd and in the drying the car was about .5 from 1st on a 60 second total time course.

Lincoln Pro 2nd and 6th but in the challenge the car broke out 2 times.

Testing this year with the 1LE and M2 has produced interesting results. Some tightly controlled and some not. The 1LE put down times that were close to the 1M on the MW practice which is a 30 second course with no power sections.

The M2 in a tightly controlled same tire same everything was 0.7 seconds faster on a 50 second.

I have mixed feeling coming out of this as in 2017 the car won the pro overall and I felt it was the fastest thing running but it only won by like 0.1ish (I did not go back and look). In 2018 at NATs the weather played a big part in the 0.06ish win.

So, the 1M has never just crushed the class and we caught some real breaks in winning the championships.

1M has lost its big advantage at the line in the pro to the Tesla and M2. We are no longer the fastest car to the 1st corner. In driving the M2 we had no real advantage in back and forth nor the sweepy stuff.

So, we are going to build a second car. It will not be here in time for the tx pro but hope to run it in KS in a month.

The 1M is probably going to go up on bring a trailer if anyone wants it, now would be the time to DM me, as I am willing to sell it most of the race parts before I unwrap it and bring it back to stock. I do think it can place in the top 5 at NATS again. Itís a fully sorted and prepped top 10 pax over all machine. 60K with all the parts and log book of knowledge.
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Texas Tour the 1M was 1st and 3rd and paxed 3rd and 38th over all. It was cold and can't remember if it was raining.

MS Pro was a wakeup call in the super wet we were 2nd and 3rd and in the drying the car was about .5 from 1st on a 60 second total time course.

Lincoln Pro 2nd and 6th but in the challenge the car broke out 2 times.

Testing this year with the 1LE and M2 has produced interesting results. Some tightly controlled and some not. The 1LE put down times that were close to the 1M on the MW practice which is a 30 second course with no power sections.

The M2 in a tightly controlled same tire same everything was 0.7 seconds faster on a 50 second.

I have mixed feeling coming out of this as in 2017 the car won the pro overall and I felt it was the fastest thing running but it only won by like 0.1ish (I did not go back and look). In 2018 at NATs the weather played a big part in the 0.06ish win.

So, the 1M has never just crushed the class and we caught some real breaks in winning the championships.

1M has lost its big advantage at the line in the pro to the Tesla and M2. We are no longer the fastest car to the 1st corner. In driving the M2 we had no real advantage in back and forth nor the sweepy stuff.

So, we are going to build a second car. It will not be here in time for the tx pro but hope to run it in KS in a month.

The 1M is probably going to go up on bring a trailer if anyone wants it, now would be the time to DM me, as I am willing to sell it most of the race parts before I unwrap it and bring it back to stock. I do think it can place in the top 5 at NATS again. It's a fully sorted and prepped top 10 pax over all machine. 60K with all the parts and log book of knowledge.
Please clarify if your back to back tests were vs M2 or M2 competition.

No surprise the M2 is faster. Back when I had my E30 M3 it was able to be modified to keep up with E36 M3 , but once the mods get equal and were added to the E36M3 the advantages are clear again.

SCCA Is generally brutal for BMWs so it's been awesome to see you guys dedicate time and resources to really making it competitive , much like Chris Conant did with the E30 M3.

While I am really enjoying the 1M, the idea of racing an appreciating asset when you can simply jump to an OG M2 for cheap or even go to an M2C for even money or less shouldn't be ignored.

The OG M2 is a good bargain but from the comments from guys I have spoken to like ilovebmws and 1M Tex that have owned all three cars... the M2 competition has the best potential as a track machine ( while the 1M still remains the favorite overall.

The development of chassis tuning on all of the F8X has been critical. The M4 GTS only scratched the surface of its potential and the ZCP, CS and models have further sharpened the steering, grip and handling. I'm planning on taking advantage of the most fully developed iteration possible and hoping to pick up another legend aka the E30 M3 SPORT EVO, E46 M3 CSL.
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What parts are on this car available FS.
I'd want to see the CoG of the M2C. The M4 barely weighs more, has established development such as GT4/replica light aero.
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I'd want to see the CoG of the M2C. The M4 barely weighs more, has established development such as GT4/replica light aero.

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Most of the secret sauce of the car is in the shock settings and alignment plus the spacing of the wheels. The car is sorted and detailed log books so adjustments are quick and get the most out of the car for surface, weather etc...
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      06-04-2019, 07:53 AM   #33
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Please clarify if your back to back tests were vs M2 or M2 competition.

No surprise the M2 is faster. Back when I had my E30 M3 it was able to be modified to keep up with E36 M3 , but once the mods get equal and were added to the E36M3 the advantages are clear again.

SCCA Is generally brutal for BMWs so it's been awesome to see you guys dedicate time and resources to really making it competitive , much like Chris Conant did with the E30 M3.

While I am really enjoying the 1M, the idea of racing an appreciating asset when you can simply jump to an OG M2 for cheap or even go to an M2C for even money or less shouldn't be ignored.

The OG M2 is a good bargain but from the comments from guys I have spoken to like ilovebmws and 1M Tex that have owned all three cars... the M2 competition has the best potential as a track machine ( while the 1M still remains the favorite overall.

The development of chassis tuning on all of the F8X has been critical. The M4 GTS only scratched the surface of its potential and the ZCP, CS and models have further sharpened the steering, grip and handling. I'm planning on taking advantage of the most fully developed iteration possible and hoping to pick up another legend aka the E30 M3 SPORT EVO, E46 M3 CSL.
We ran the M2 and 1M back to back with the RE71's on both. We ran the 1M several passes to set the time and then ran 2 passes with the M2 and we were .7 faster on the 50 second course. You could just tell that the 50% prepped M2 was faster.

My 1M is still a trophy car for a B/B+ at Nationals but for the top 5 spots where the A/A+ drivers are we can't be that far down on car at the line.


At the Texas Pro this weekend we were 1 and 2 in the rain where you have to have setup and 2nd and 7th in the dry.

The new M2 competition package runs in A Street which is a class above us in B Street. We are looking for a M2 and have one we are working a deal on. The M2 has no resale as we are finding 60k cars that are now 40k and been on lots for 20 0 to 300 days.

I'm going to put my car up on bring a trailer while its still a winner. I figure someone that cannot build/sort a car will want it. Jeremy can put the car top 3-5 and a B/B+ driver can finish in the last trophy spots 10-13.

If anyone wants it DM me.
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