Best camber angle for autocross and street

driftdriven · 11-28-2009, 09:11 PM

Hi all,

the car is on stock suspension and i like that way it handles and rides but for the autocross I would like to get a bit more grip up front. SO what is the best camber angle for this and for street use too. I only autocross once or twice a month so readjusting is not desired.

Thanks!

Every time I get bored with the car I take it to autocross and I fall in love all over again!

vitig · 11-29-2009, 04:44 AM

I read here about -2º front and -1,5º rear.

driftdriven · 11-29-2009, 12:18 PM

Ah ok, I figured the M3 control arms would have sufficed but not at those angles. So I guess i will have to get camber plates.

vitig · 11-29-2009, 04:13 PM

I think to make a dremmeling in the holes to gain adittional camber.

HP Autosport · 12-10-2009, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by driftdriven

Ah ok, I figured the M3 control arms would have sufficed but not at those angles. So I guess i will have to get camber plates.

Yes, you will need camber plates to get -2 to -3. You will want about -3 for track duty.

mpwrd3 · 12-10-2009, 07:54 PM

If this is your daily driver and you're not running a square tire setup & rotating regularly, I would strongly recommend adjusting your camber when needed with a good set of plates.

Evolution Racewerks · 12-11-2009, 08:36 PM

Yes, we did that and it helps. We also KW camber plates and M3 arms. Nothing on sale on the market will give you too much as everything is still not enough. Get as much as possible.

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Originally Posted by vitig

I think to make a dremmeling in the holes to gain adittional camber.

RedTRex · 12-23-2009, 07:34 PM

Of course you cannot run both camber plates and M3 LCAs in STU....

I have the Vorshlag plates and I do adjust for max camber at my monthly auto-x, it's easy.

I run a square setup of 265/35/18 Kumho XSs on 8.5" CSL reps, Hotchkiss FSB, Helene filter, and BMW performance exhaust

arrutled · 12-24-2009, 09:43 AM

Kuhmo's must run really narrow!

RaceTime · 12-30-2009, 10:39 AM

Amen to that! I have 255 Z1's and they barely fit! That is with a roll in the front and plates at max neg. camber. I wonder how the Kuhmo's handle. I have never ran that tire...

I agree to the above comments... I use Vorshlag plates and adjust them at the event for max camber, then back to normal for driving around town (along with changing wheels)... I am right around -2.9 up front with my plates...

arrutled · 12-30-2009, 12:38 PM

Do you have m3 wisbones?

11-28-2009, 09:11 PM	#1
driftdriven Captain 54 Rep 905 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Best camber angle for autocross and street Hi all, the car is on stock suspension and i like that way it handles and rides but for the autocross I would like to get a bit more grip up front. SO what is the best camber angle for this and for street use too. I only autocross once or twice a month so readjusting is not desired. Thanks! Every time I get bored with the car I take it to autocross and I fall in love all over again!
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11-29-2009, 04:44 AM	#2
vitig Private First Class 4 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: España iTrader: (0)	I read here about -2º front and -1,5º rear. __________________ 135ijb3, h & r filter, SSK, CDV,clutch stop, klracing fmic,seccond catted ,225-255 michelin ps3, E93F-E92R swaybars.M3 parts front.M3 tension rear.Plates mod(F-2,0º R-1,5º).Bilstein + stock springs.Ps rotors.Subframe bushings.Weichers fstruut.Finally mods sdiff and raceland dp.
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driftdriven Captain 54 Rep 905 Posts Drives: BMW 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Canada iTrader: (0)	Ah ok, I figured the M3 control arms would have sufficed but not at those angles. So I guess i will have to get camber plates.
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vitig Private First Class 4 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: España iTrader: (0)	I think to make a dremmeling in the holes to gain adittional camber. __________________ 135ijb3, h & r filter, SSK, CDV,clutch stop, klracing fmic,seccond catted ,225-255 michelin ps3, E93F-E92R swaybars.M3 parts front.M3 tension rear.Plates mod(F-2,0º R-1,5º).Bilstein + stock springs.Ps rotors.Subframe bushings.Weichers fstruut.Finally mods sdiff and raceland dp.
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12-10-2009, 07:54 PM	#6
mpwrd3 Enlisted Member 1 Rep 36 Posts Drives: E36 / E91 / F250 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Illinois iTrader: (0)	If this is your daily driver and you're not running a square tire setup & rotating regularly, I would strongly recommend adjusting your camber when needed with a good set of plates.
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RedTRex Digital Cerebrum 18 Rep 408 Posts Drives: 05 330ci ZHP Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (4) Garage List 2005 BMW 330ci [0.00]	Of course you cannot run both camber plates and M3 LCAs in STU.... I have the Vorshlag plates and I do adjust for max camber at my monthly auto-x, it's easy. I run a square setup of 265/35/18 Kumho XSs on 8.5" CSL reps, Hotchkiss FSB, Helene filter, and BMW performance exhaust
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12-24-2009, 09:43 AM	#9
arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Kuhmo's must run really narrow! __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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12-30-2009, 10:39 AM	#10
RaceTime Auto X'er 3 Rep 157 Posts Drives: 2009 Space Gray 135i Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Northern Colorado iTrader: (0)	Amen to that! I have 255 Z1's and they barely fit! That is with a roll in the front and plates at max neg. camber. I wonder how the Kuhmo's handle. I have never ran that tire... I agree to the above comments... I use Vorshlag plates and adjust them at the event for max camber, then back to normal for driving around town (along with changing wheels)... I am right around -2.9 up front with my plates... __________________ 2009 135i SGM, Premium, Sports, Nav. Dinan Stage 2 software, Injen intake, RR Oil Catch Can, H&R Pro-coilovers and springs, H&R front sway bar, Vorshlag camber plates, Vorshlag comp studs, BMW strut brace, BMW performance pedals, G-Force harneses, BMP tow hooks, Breyton GTS-R wheels with 255-35R18 (square set up) and custom axel back exhaust with muffler delete.
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arrutled Colonel 104 Rep 2,474 Posts Drives: Olsa Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Western Mass iTrader: (0)	Do you have m3 wisbones? __________________ AW 135i w/ blackette, performance short shift kit, BMW alarm, Performance rotors, APEX ARC-8 wheels, Direzza Star Spec 235/275, Dinan stage 3 suspension, M3 wishbones/tension rods/front sway/rear subframe bushings and thats all folks!
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