What tune to choose?

[135IS]

So im waiting for my 1 and was trying to decide which tune to get but i cant decide

tell me about your tunes

thanks

[DBFIU]

JB3 2.0, affordable, it works, easy to use and install, endless possibilities with it.

[SV Concepts II]

+1 on JB3, you won't be disappointed with that setup.

Other choices would be Procede V4.

[rsjean]

I throw this out not as an expert but as one who tries to get as much information as possible from credible sources and then ultimately makes a calculated decision.

I took on the added risk of buying port flashed software versus a piggyback device for the following reasons.

A piggyback must work in conjunction with the factory software. Flaws, whether intentional or not can't be corrected. An example of an intentional flaw is that BMW finds it advantageous to keep the throttle body from actually opening all the way at higher rpms. It seems to be widely known that this is a common techniques used by BMW. It may be a contributing factor to what many addicts have complained about as a long dead area toward the top end of our rpm capability. Some have said it's a waste of a decently high reving engine. Piggyback devices have to live with things like that.
Additionally port flased software can remove the top end limiter leaving ABS and DSC functions untouched and without generating false speed sensor data. And since a flashed ecu is receiving directly all data from all sensors it can be more proactive instead of reactive based on real world conditions rather than interpreted, transcoded conditions.

Downside for me is should something go wrong - I've got to tow the car in to the tuners show and reload stock software, then have it towed to the dealership.

Most of what I've paraphrased here I read and heard in my researching weeks and it still all could all be bullsh*t. But I'll tell you, my flash has resulted in an incredibly smooth, responsive and efficient beast.

I couldn't be more pleased.

Oh, mine is GIAC.

[Smac355]

i am extremely happy with my DINAN St II Flash. While yes more expensive you do keep your factory warranty matched by Dinan... that's how confident they are in their product. If you don't care, then yes the JB3 seems to be a good option which just about everyone is happy with. I do like the amount of research that goes into the Dinan products. for example you can read this latest Dyno paper by Steve Dinan. If you don't think they put immense amount of time and effort into their tunes i would beg to differ. Happy moddin!


http://www.dinancars.com/bmw/technia...ern-bmw-engine

[onefastman]

My number one need in a tune is reliability and support when things go wrong.
Terry is the most helpful person in the world, he replies to emails with in minutes at all hours of the day.

Also the updates are free/cheap and the tune can be found used for $400.

[Freakazoid]

my personal vote is jb3....but don't trust us... use the following comparison guide:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=374508


best comparison out there and completely unbiased

[ridin135]

I would suggest try both since they both have money back guarentees. I own both and I think the procede V4 is starting to pull away. Good luck and you will love either one you get

[Freakazoid]

the general consensus is split though in general...

almost all 1 series go JB3 for a piggy back. A large portion of the 3 series go for Procede.

I don't have the slightest clue why, but it's the trend I noticed.

[rsjean]

Originally Posted by Smac355

i am extremely happy with my DINAN St II Flash. While yes more expensive you do keep your factory warranty matched by Dinan... that's how confident they are in their product. If you don't care, then yes the JB3 seems to be a good option which just about everyone is happy with. I do like the amount of research that goes into the Dinan products. for example you can read this latest Dyno paper by Steve Dinan. If you don't think they put immense amount of time and effort into their tunes i would beg to differ. Happy moddin!


http://www.dinancars.com/bmw/technia...ern-bmw-engine

Dinan doesn't have the capital resources to self fund a warranty like that so I would assume they are buying a liability policy to cover this. And the premiums the corp is paying is covered by the premium price you pay for essentially the same product everyone else is selling for less. What would be interesting would be to find out how to get this coverage as an end user of any of this type of product. That way everyone could elect to pay to have 'warranty insurance' should they choose.

I really don't think Steve Dinan is any more or less confident in his product than any of the other providers, just a different, albeit clever, business model.

[kirby135i]

Originally Posted by Freakazoid

the general consensus is split though in general...

almost all 1 series go JB3 for a piggy back. A large portion of the 3 series go for Procede.

I don't have the slightest clue why, but it's the trend I noticed.

i agree...i have procede and very happy...as far as why the trends i guess 1 owners want to save $$ (in general, not callin us cheap) where more 335i guys prob are more willing to spend more for the extra features the procede has.

[onefastman]

Ridin135i had a great idea, TRY BOTH!!! They have a money back guarentee

[BoostedTerp]

I ended up going with Dinan. Yes it's expensive and doesn't deliver as much power as the piggies, but the peace of mind of the warranty and not having to go ripping through my engine bay any time my car gives a long crank is worth it for me.

[Freakazoid]

Originally Posted by kirby135i

i agree...i have procede and very happy...as far as why the trends i guess 1 owners want to save $$ (in general, not callin us cheap) where more 335i guys prob are more willing to spend more for the extra features the procede has.

see I thought that too, but that still doesn't make sense.... why are there so many more jb3 owners in the 11s then? usually cheap means spending less money on supporting mods too.

I don't want to be hasty but it seems jb3 owners look for more performance while procede is generally looking for more 'all around'

[Irishace]

You cannot go wrong with Procede or JB3. I choose JB3 primarily because I have access to local tech support with the product. The thing is a proven performer and I am quite satisfied with it.

Either way you cannot really go wrong, Procede is a fine tune as well.

[adrean8j]

Originally Posted by Freakazoid

I don't want to be hasty but it seems jb3 owners look for more performance while procede is generally looking for more 'all around'

Not true...Procede owners look for more performance as well. We can take our laptop do some datalogging runs, and then adjust a myriad of settings to tune the engine to performance in the way you like...we could make it powerful like a JB3 or a little more stock like...alternatively we could just load one of the 3 stages of default maps available. If you like to tinker around with your own tune then Procede is the better way to go IMO. If you just want to plug it in and have a blast then JB3 is the way to go. If you want something dealer/manufacturer GUARANTEE'D then go with the DINAN. If you want to flash the ECU....then do that but just be aware of the slight drawbacks with having to go back to the specific tuner for updates or reflashing to stock.

[WhiteOne]

DME offers a "flash" created by legendary BMW tuner, Jim Conforti.

[Luvmybmw]

I have the Dinan Stage 2 Flash, and my vote would be go with the JB3...

[infinitekidM2C]

Auto-tune is coming to the procede..check E90 boards..it sounds pretty cool.

[Luvmybmw]

And Terry at BMS will be of great help if you have any problems.

[spang135]

JB3 It you will love it

[ar design]

For the money, you cannot beat the JB3. Our customers LOVE it!