BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts




 

View Poll Results: Manual or M-DCT
Manual 46 48.94%
M-DCT 48 51.06%
Voters: 94. You may not vote on this poll

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      05-10-2010, 09:24 PM   #1
sparoz
Brigadier General
sparoz's Avatar
Australia
191
Rep
4,848
Posts

Drives: VO 1///M; Macan Turbo
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Sunshine Coast

iTrader: (0)

Manual or DCT

With the imminent launch of the 1///M. Which box would you tick?

A manual will certainly gives you much better feel and involvement. However, being a turbo engine - it would give substantial gain in performance (open throttle during shift changes!)

Manual or MDCT?
__________________
Macan S Diesel - Carrera White
Macan Turbo - White
1///M - Valencia Orange
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2010, 09:30 PM   #2
tcd223
Captain
tcd223's Avatar
United_States
47
Rep
940
Posts

Drives: '10 LeMans 135i
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: NYC

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
2010 135i  [7.00]
Just learned how to drive stick, and I'm hooked. Going to drive sticks until nobody offers them in sports cars anymore or my hips get replaced in 70 years, whichever happens first.
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2010, 09:30 PM   #3
fatjoez
student
fatjoez's Avatar
No_Country
224
Rep
911
Posts

Drives: e90
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Bermuda Triangle

iTrader: (0)

DCT brotha
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2010, 10:03 PM   #4
zuggerat89
Still waiting...
zuggerat89's Avatar
United_States
25
Rep
887
Posts

Drives: OGV
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Monmouth County, NJ

iTrader: (0)

oh boy... can of worms -- open
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2010, 10:47 PM   #5
Yay-Z
Shifting to Top Gear
Yay-Z's Avatar
United_States
40
Rep
556
Posts

Drives: F10 M5/E70 X5
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: Houston, TX

iTrader: (0)

three pedals, its just that more fun
Appreciate 0
      05-10-2010, 10:58 PM   #6
Zuzu
Major General
Zuzu's Avatar
Australia
2816
Rep
7,637
Posts

Drives: M2C HS 6MT
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Sydney Australia

iTrader: (0)

DCT for a change..
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 12:03 AM   #7
Itanius
Lieutenant
United_States
8
Rep
567
Posts

Drives: Silver
Join Date: Mar 2010
Location: OR

iTrader: (4)

I'd need to test drive it first, but DCT is tempting.
__________________
2008 AW 135i (sold)
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 12:10 AM   #8
Cornhusker
Lieutenant
46
Rep
403
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nebraska

iTrader: (1)

DCT FTW on turbo's..... gtr? PDK turbo anyone? Look at the comparisons on the pdk 911 turbo to manual, nuff said. 11 sec qtr at 128 bone stock...... 11.6 at 123 with manual. On a track it won't as big a diff as straight line with good driver though. However, I know I'm not a good driver and I mostly drive fast in straight lines, lol. Will only hit the track a few times a year.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 01:35 AM   #9
HERR FSTIR
Captain
HERR FSTIR's Avatar
United_States
119
Rep
771
Posts

Drives: LBB M2C, VO 1M, GSA 1200
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Frozen Tundra

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
I was going to go with the 6 speed until I drove an M3 with DCT. Unbelievably fast shifts.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 04:44 AM   #10
Guibo
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
280
Posts

Drives:
Join Date: Apr 2008

iTrader: (0)

Manual for me.

Would be cool if it could have a no-lift feature like the Cobalt SS and a rev-matching downshift like the 370Z. All defeatable, of course.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 05:12 AM   #11
Elsabor67
aiming for 450.....
Elsabor67's Avatar
United_States
302
Rep
2,910
Posts

Drives: Totaled :-(
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Louisiana

iTrader: (28)

Garage List
2009 135i  [10.00]
I am a shifter guy myself, been one all my life, but after test driving a DCT 135i, I was very impressed on the DCT's acceleration and quick shifts and the ability to go full auto in the city in normal stop and go traffic. The sport option was also very good as it kept the revs for shifting a bit higher when you want to have a spirited drive. "Full" manual was great.

Only complaint I have is that they should have made the paddles a bit more extended out.

To me, it would be a decision as to what my intentions would be with the car. If it was for serious track duty, I would definetly consider DCT.
__________________
Quote from Ezeedee regarding car mods:
"you're only done when you sell the car "
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 06:53 AM   #12
ChrisK
Major General
ChrisK's Avatar
United_States
4449
Rep
7,594
Posts

Drives: '19 M2C
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chicagoland

iTrader: (7)

Garage List
Life long shifter here, but I am going DCT
__________________
www.ReTuneTheDeTune.com
2019 M2 Competition (Sunset Orange)
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 06:58 AM   #13
Vintage
Colonel
Vintage's Avatar
United_States
378
Rep
2,588
Posts

Drives: BMW G80 (MT), 718 Spyder
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Austin, Texas

iTrader: (0)

my wife's 2010 Z4 35i has a DCT, and we are hooked. I love manuals and agree they are more fun/involved but once you drive the DCT I think many of you will be converts. no disrespect to manuals but for those of us that drive in traffic regularly and not on a track a lot, the DCT just makes sense in my opinion - especially when you look at the numbers and get use to paddle shifting
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 07:12 AM   #14
mixxer
Second Lieutenant
United_States
3
Rep
226
Posts

Drives: 2010 335 xi
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: phoenixville,PA

iTrader: (0)

dct is a match made in heaven for boosted cars. You shift gears manually and boost drops which equals slower car. The dct cars will be faster for sure. A high reving NA motor well thats another story.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 07:33 AM   #15
ellesde
Registered
0
Rep
4
Posts

Drives: Hopefully a 135i!
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

Strictly manual driver but changed jobs and now work in the city. DCT makes it quite tempting for those damn stop and go traffic.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 10:13 AM   #16
BMW269
Brigadier General
No_Country
433
Rep
3,888
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

Manual. Is it possible/difficult to drift with DCT?
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 10:32 AM   #17
Simsims
Captain
Canada
37
Rep
615
Posts

Drives: 119/220
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: Ottawa

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi View Post
Manual. Is it possible/difficult to drift with DCT?
yeah same question here, how do you drift in those things?
__________________
VO 1M - everything except sunroof
RIP BSM 135i 2009-2011
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 12:11 PM   #18
nordique14
Major
No_Country
53
Rep
1,477
Posts

Drives: SGM 135i 'vert
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Sharks Territory

iTrader: (5)

Even if the DCT is faster, so what? I did not buy a manual because it is faster than than the auto. I bought a manual because it was more FUN to drive.

A secondary benefit is that a manual is cheaper to repair than an auto or DCT. I hold on to my cars a long time (8-10 years) so repair cars are consideration.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 01:22 PM   #19
MUFCbmwbear
Major
MUFCbmwbear's Avatar
United_States
689
Rep
1,198
Posts

Drives: 24 M2 & 20 M340xi
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: Chicago/Milwaukee

iTrader: (0)

I'm open minded about this and would test drive both before a buying decision would be made. But if i had to buy now it be Manual.
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 02:31 PM   #20
ChrisK
Major General
ChrisK's Avatar
United_States
4449
Rep
7,594
Posts

Drives: '19 M2C
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Chicagoland

iTrader: (7)

Garage List
Ever since SMG showed up on the e46 M3, I have wanted paddle shifting. Rowing the gears is a blast, but traffic is also a reality.

I need to test drive DCT a few times before making a final decision.
__________________
www.ReTuneTheDeTune.com
2019 M2 Competition (Sunset Orange)
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 07:19 PM   #21
Guibo
Second Lieutenant
4
Rep
280
Posts

Drives:
Join Date: Apr 2008

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Levi View Post
Manual. Is it possible/difficult to drift with DCT?
May be more difficult to upset the rear end with a clutch drop like in a manual, but dropping (or mashing) the throttle should be enough to unsettle the rear.


Watch 3:38-3:54


In one sense, it may be easier to hold a drive with DCT. Here's Evo mag's review of the Ferrari California:
"Proving that there is no torque interruption with the twin-clutch gearbox, on one lap, halfway round the Bank hairpin with opposite lock balancing a slide, I upshifted from second to third without lifting and the slide continued exactly as before."
Appreciate 0
      05-11-2010, 08:07 PM   #22
Cornhusker
Lieutenant
46
Rep
403
Posts

Drives: 335i
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Nebraska

iTrader: (1)

That's pretty cool... continuing a power slide while upshifting.... now that sounds FUN lol
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:42 AM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST