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      04-14-2018, 09:49 AM   #67
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It will be interesting to see if Russia backs up its threats to target the platforms used in the attack i.e. the UK base in Cyprus and US/French warships, but they will not, so what the strike has proven is Russia is very often for such a cold country, full of hot air.[/QUOTE]

Thank Russia that we have another day to live, or else we could all been gone already or on our last minutes. But I guess Russia is the only one that cares about this Earth.

Also Putins exact words were, if our troops or military is in danger we will strike back and strike the platforms from were they were launched.
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Watching news that support war will never show there fail so keep watching news that are held and supported by the deep state, and war hungry people.
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It will be interesting to see if Russia backs up its threats to target the platforms used in the attack i.e. the UK base in Cyprus and US/French warships, but they will not, so what the strike has proven is Russia is very often for such a cold country, full of hot air.
Thank Russia

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"Thank Russia"?
Really?
That might be the most misguided statement so far.
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What does this have to do with Israel?

Israel already proved they couldn't care less what the other countries do, they are going to protect themselves either way. Israel also actually hits real targets without telling anyone, unlike this event.
What does this have to do?
Israel provided the "intelligence" for these targets
In addition, when Israel attacks, noone screams bloody anything.. just deafening silence
In addition, ISIS the flag-bearer for fundamental Islam never attacks Israel for some "strange" reason
In addition, American troops are supposed to die for Israel?
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/0...ps-die-israel/
In addition.. do yer own math..
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What's the difference in killing civilians with "illegal" weapons as opposed to conventional? Semantics

And last time I heard "Mission Accomplished", things turned out for the worse. I'm expecting the same in this case.....
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Sputnik?
Russian controlled.
I can't even say "nice try".
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It will be interesting to see if Russia backs up its threats to target the platforms used in the attack i.e. the UK base in Cyprus and US/French warships, but they will not, so what the strike has proven is Russia is very often for such a cold country, full of hot air.
Thank Russia that we have another day to live, or else we could all been gone already or on our last minutes. But I guess Russia is the only one that cares about this Earth.

Also Putins exact words were, if our troops or military is in danger we will strike back and strike the platforms from were they were launched.[/QUOTE]

So far these strike have been crafted to avoid the Russian bear but to hit all around him
If its tit-for-tat then the Russians would not strike the missile platforms
Its higher probability they would opt to go after the makeshift Terrorist/Rebel/US bases near the Euphrates
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What does this have to do?
Israel provided the "intelligence" for these targets
In addition, when Israel attacks, noone screams bloody anything.. just deafening silence
In addition, ISIS the flag-bearer for fundamental Islam never attacks Israel for some "strange" reason
In addition, American troops are supposed to die for Israel?
https://www.veteranstoday.com/2018/0...ps-die-israel/
In addition.. do yer own math..
Again what does this attack have to do with Israel? Israel didn't provide intelligence for this attack. This attack was obviously planned with Russia, they didn't hit shit.

ISIS attacks Jews and Israelis outside of Israel all the time, they know better than to try to start a war with Israel. If they can't defeat Assad, do they really have a chance vs Israel?
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Agreed. Let's hope Russia comes to the table.
Russia will not come to a table were barbarians eat everything they see, looks like Russia is the only hope right now.
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Again what does this attack have to do with Israel? Israel didn't provide intelligence for this attack. This attack was obviously planned with Russia, they didn't hit shit.

ISIS attacks Jews and Israelis outside of Israel all the time, they know better than to try to start a war with Israel. If they can't defeat Assad, do they really have a chance vs Israel?
According to Fox, and is it that much a surprise if Israeli intel guided these strikes?
They got the best intelligence in the area even if one-sided.
I like the bit about planned w/Russia tho..
even the old SAMs could shoot down 70% of the tomahawks (according to the Kremlin)
And we all know Israel is using ISIS to its ends
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Sputnik?
Russian controlled.
I can't even say "nice try".
And CNN, NBC you are showing me? Controlled by the most corrupt people. Many people around the world realize already that Russia is telling more truth then the Americans, but I guess you are till blind.
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According to Fox, and is it that much a surprise if Israeli intel guided these strikes?
They got the best intelligence in the area even if one-sided.
I like the bit about planned w/Russia tho..
even the old SAMs could shoot down 70% of the tomahawks (according to the Kremlin)
And we all know Israel is using ISIS to its ends
I am not saying Israel wouldn't provide intelligence, I am saying if they did provide intelligence there would be "real" damage.

I won't argue that Israel in some way or form uses ISIS, but nowhere near the amount of the Sunni coalition or other western countries.
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Sputnik?
Russian controlled.
I can't even say "nice try".
And CNN, NBC you are showing me? Controlled by the most corrupt people. Many people around the world realize already that Russia is telling more truth then the Americans, but I guess you are till blind.
How are things at your place today?
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I suspect now that the North Korean 'crisis' is over Syria is now the current flavour to attempt to keep us all in a 'State of Fear'
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I suspect now that the North Korean 'crisis' is over Syria is now the current flavour to attempt to keep us all in a 'State of Fear'
That was a message to NK and many others last night. Trump > Obama in foreign policy.

Don't fear what you cannot control. Enjoy life!
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I suspect now that the North Korean 'crisis' is over Syria is now the current flavour to attempt to keep us all in a 'State of Fear'
No, now it's just a broad "Russia is the devil" tactic, we made a full circle back to the 80's.

We moved passed taliban, al queda, isis, North Korea...The world "leaders" are getting lazy, they don't have time to create more terror groups.
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No, now it's just a broad "Russia is the devil" tactic, we made a full circle back to the 80's.

We moved passed taliban, al queda, isis, North Korea...The world "leaders" are getting lazy, they don't have time to create more terror groups.
No, it was Aids that was going to kill us all in the eighties
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That was a message to NK and many others last night. Trump > Obama in foreign policy.
This is clearly and factually untrue simply because Trump has no policy - as has been stated time and again by his own staff, exacerbated by the fact that he's had no functional SecState for his entire Presidency.

Obama had a clear foreign policy: "lead from behind". You and I would likely agree this is a horrible foreign policy, but it is a defined, discrete foreign policy framework based on principles and a philosophy.

Trump is simply doing random shit on a whim that his own staff doesn't know about until after he says it. That's not "policy", that's just erratic darts being thrown.

There's a vast gulf between being "unpredictable" and "unreliable" and Trump is the epitome of unreliable.
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That was a message to NK and many others last night. Trump > Obama in foreign policy.
This is clearly and factually untrue simply because Trump has no policy - as has been stated time and again by his own staff, exacerbated by the fact that he's had no functional SecState for his entire Presidency.

Obama had a clear foreign policy: "lead from behind". You and I would likely agree this is a horrible foreign policy, but it is a defined, discrete foreign policy framework based on principles and a philosophy.

Trump is simply doing random shit on a whim that his own staff doesn't know about until after he says it. That's not "policy", that's just erratic darts being thrown.

There's a vast gulf between being "unpredictable" and "unreliable" and Trump is the epitome of unreliable.
Agreed on Obama but Trump is doing far better so far, regardless of his personality issues.
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Here is how I see it (trump supporter btw)-

1) The message was sent, the fact that it was done with other countries (France, UK) shows that a number of countries are serious about this and makes us look more legitimate.
2) Putin doesn't seem to be fazed; however still willing to back the Syrian GOVT.
3) Numerous missiles were shot down by 30 year old BUK anti missile systems provided by the Russians.
4) We probably didn't hit anything valuable at all.
5) What is the ultimate goal here or what is supposed to happen?

IMHO, the only thing that happened here was some sort of mixed message was sent... I think a proper option would be to send a covert seal team six type team to take out Assad, claim victory against him, leave and let the Russians do as they wish... its effectively a win win for everyone... PS- I am not a General.
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