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      10-28-2017, 04:53 PM   #89
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I can't speak directly to the N54 gearbox, !
For anyone reading it won't fit the same in the N54 cars. Hell, n54 335i levers fit differently in the 135i version. Not as big a difference as N54->N55, but there you go.
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Thread revival alert but wanted to contribute.

Quick post to say thanks to all who have contributed to this thread, particularly Dack

The relatively long throw on the 1M shifter has bugged me a little from day one, particularly since my 130i daily driver has the BMW short shift lever fitted and has (had) a much nicer feel to it.

Anyway after reading just about everything ever written about 1M/N54/N55 short shift kits I thought I'd give the 130i/330i short shift lever (part# 25110434219) a go since the 135i short shift lever (part# 25110434217) is no longer available.

Worked out well and very pleased with the results. The throw is much reduced, feels a little notchy but in a lovely direct 'mechanical' way. No problems with any weird off-set of the gear knob etc.
The knob is about the same height as before unfortunately. I'd have liked it to drop the same 10-15mm as in the 130i but the shifting arm sits taller in the 1M.

For future reference here's a pic of the three levers I had available during the swap.

Also measured throws on both cars using same method as Dackelone

1M with 25110434219 lever: 3rd - 4th = 41mm
130i with 25110434219 lever: 3rd - 4th = 50mm
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Thread revival alert but wanted to contribute.

Quick post to say thanks to all who have contributed to this thread, particularly Dack

The relatively long throw on the 1M shifter has bugged me a little from day one, particularly since my 130i daily driver has the BMW short shift lever fitted and has (had) a much nicer feel to it.

Anyway after reading just about everything ever written about 1M/N54/N55 short shift kits I thought I'd give the 130i/330i short shift lever (part# 25110434219) a go since the 135i short shift lever (part# 25110434217) is no longer available.

Worked out well and very pleased with the results. The throw is much reduced, feels a little notchy but in a lovely direct 'mechanical' way. No problems with any weird off-set of the gear knob etc.
The knob is about the same height as before unfortunately. I'd have liked it to drop the same 10-15mm as in the 130i but the shifting arm sits taller in the 1M.

For future reference here's a pic of the three levers I had available during the swap.

Also measured throws on both cars using same method as Dackelone

1M with 25110434219 lever: 3rd - 4th = 41mm
130i with 25110434219 lever: 3rd - 4th = 50mm
Really provocative that, with the same lever, throws are ~ 3/8" shorter in the M vs the 130.
Didn't notice before, but I see a bunch of people who have used the "328i SSK" lever on their N55's. One reference to a 40mm-ish throw. For $60, why didn't I get this instead of the E60 550i lever I had to buy a press to bend?
I don't really want to go tearing into the guts again, but for only $60 and an afternoon of my time it could be a worthwhile further upgrade. Definitely sits lower than the one I used!
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Do you mean #7 in the first diagram bellow? If so... yes, you can reuse that with a new shift lever.


The white plastic bushing(#4) for the shift lever should always be replaced. Most of the time it gets brittle since it sits right on top of the exhaust. Always replace it.

You should also buy new washers and c-clips(#6) for the rod linkage... you WILL loose one or more and then your F'd. Buy some spares they are cheap.

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Im trying to figure out the same question. So if i understand you correctly in my E82 135i N54 I can simply buy 25117542200 plus bearing and circlip and use the old #7 from my stock shifting kinematics? This would make the job so much easier and cheaper since the original n54 135i ssk one also includes a new #7 and is a PIT to change.
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Hi,

Im trying to figure out the same question. So if i understand you correctly in my E82 135i N54 I can simply buy 25117542200 plus bearing and circlip and use the old #7 from my stock shifting kinematics? This would make the job so much easier and cheaper since the original n54 135i ssk one also includes a new #7 and is a PIT to change.
Yes. I think by using the 128i Performance Short Shift lever(p/n 25117542200) with a new plastic bearing and two circlips - this would give you 90% of the 135i's SSK feel.

The 135i's SSK is no longer available that comes with a modified #7 saddle.

The 128i Perf SSK(lever) will give you 90% of the feel and shorter shifts movements that you are looking for.


Btw... here is the install pdf...
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Yes. I think by using the 128i Performance Short Shift lever(p/n 25117542200) with a new plastic bearing and two circlips - this would give you 90% of the 135i's SSK feel.

The 135i's SSK is no longer available that comes with a modified #7 saddle.

The 128i Perf SSK(lever) will give you 90% of the feel and shorter shifts movements that you are looking for.


Btw... here is the install pdf...
Awesome thank you I will try that. I actually found a original unused 135i ssk by chance but wasnít so fond of doing the whole thing since itís a lot more work then just changing the lever. And 90% for casual sporty driving is perfect
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Any confirmation of what transmissions this works with? I am given to understand the N55/1M have different trans than N54 with varying shifter arm angles. Also not sure how the 130 vs 128i vs other arms compare when trying to keep the lever centered in neutral.
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swanny71 Dackelone

Any confirmation of what transmissions this works with? I am given to understand the N55/1M have different trans than N54 with varying shifter arm angles. Also not sure how the 130 vs 128i vs other arms compare when trying to keep the lever centered in neutral.
The 1M uses the N55 135's transmission.

The 130i Perf Shift lever arm is: p/n 25110434219
The 128i Perf Shift lever arm is: p/n 25117542200

I do not know what the difference is between the two shift levers. I suspect they both would work just fine. I also suspect the 130i lever has shorter throws since the 130i was BMW's sporty hot hatch at the time. Only way to know for sure is to order both shift arms/levers and see!

Since both shift levers were designed for the 1er... I would bet that they are totally PnP parts. But again... the only way to know for sure... is to order one(or both!) and give it a try.


shifter throws...

N54 = 80mm throws
N54 w/Perf SSK = 55mm throws
N55 = 70mm throws


See post #47...
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The 1M uses the N55 135's transmission.

The 130i Perf Shift lever arm is: p/n 25110434219
The 128i Perf Shift lever arm is: p/n 25117542200

I do not know what the difference is between the two shift levers. I suspect they both would work just fine. I also suspect the 130i lever has shorter throws since the 130i was BMW's sporty hot hatch at the time. Only way to know for sure is to order both shift arms/levers and see!

Since both shift levers were designed for the 1er... I would bet that they are totally PnP parts. But again... the only way to know for sure... is to order one(or both!) and give it a try.


shifter throws...

N54 = 80mm throws
N54 w/Perf SSK = 55mm throws
N55 = 70mm throws


See post #47...
https://www.1addicts.com/forums/show...=414760&page=3




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apparently the 25117542200 is at least in germany indicated as the one for 125i but i guess it's only because there is no 128i in germany. ordered one an will try it out as soon as a i get some spare time to fiddle around without using renting a ramp or so
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Any confirmation of what transmissions this works with? I am given to understand the N55/1M have different trans than N54 with varying shifter arm angles. Also not sure how the 130 vs 128i vs other arms compare when trying to keep the lever centered in neutral.

As Dackelone has already mentioned this works on N55 MT's and the 1M (same box). The 130i arm I fitted was perfectly centred on the 1M - think I posted pic last year?

However, I've moved on since then. I'll do a write up soon but here's a pic of my latest DIY modified/hybrid lever that I think is perfect in the 1M.
Compared to the 130i lever the shift throw is slightly longer (it was always a little too short) but the knob sits 10-15mm lower (which I really wanted).

The method I used should enable you to create a bespoke (to you) shift feel on any BMW manual box.
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As Dackelone has already mentioned this works on N55 MT's and the 1M (same box). The 130i arm I fitted was perfectly centred on the 1M - think I posted pic last year?

However, I've moved on since then. I'll do a write up soon but here's a pic of my latest DIY modified/hybrid lever that I think is perfect in the 1M.
Compared to the 130i lever the shift throw is slightly longer (it was always a little too short) but the knob sits 10-15mm lower (which I really wanted).

The method I used should enable you to create a bespoke (to you) shift feel on any BMW manual box.
As I was unfortunately expecting. Won't be able to use this as my trans is different and will likely be badly off center.

Appreciate the info regardless.
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