OPTIONS/PACKAGES PRICING LIST HERE!!!

kurichan · 11-15-2007, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown

You can either afford a new BMW or you can't. It should seem that if you're already buying a $30,000 + car, a few more thousand shouldn't break the deal.

But that's not the whole story. I am writing this car off because I think it's too expensive for what it is.

Instead, I'm buying a more expensive car that doesn't compromise.

Too much compromise in the 135i for the price. It's fat, the reviews universally say it understeers, the steering is vauge, and frankly, the design is pretty awkward from certain angles.

Quote:

Nothing drives like a BMW..... But hey what do I know....

Exactly. There are enough cars that drive better.

Mitch · 11-15-2007, 07:42 PM

Looks like clsoe to 40K for me off first glance. Sounds pretty on the money for me.

xspeedy · 11-15-2007, 08:13 PM

I spent just under $41K for a 2007 335i sedan with ZSP, ZPP, and Nav via ED. This thing comparably equipped is going to cost just about the same (135i + ZSP + ZPP + Nav + Sound). US retail will be roughly $43, so an excellent ED will yield about $39. Less than $2K difference for a like-engine model upgrade is wrong. I know I'm comparing a coupe to a sedan (and the price increase for two less doors is another beef), but seriously...

Does anyone know what the BMWCCA rebate will be for a 1? Same as a 3?

atr_hugo · 11-15-2007, 08:21 PM

Don't know about the BMW CCA rebate yet - they say all new vehicles are eligible though.

As far as your calculations on an ED cost for a 135i I came up with the same numbers as you a little while ago, cool!!

Yup - it's pretty close to an 335i sedan in price but some of us (me included) want a smaller car. One of the attractions of the 1 series for me is the fact that it'll fit inside (just barely) of the outline of a Mazda 3.

I personally don't equate size as an indicator of value - otherwise we'd be paying Ferrari prices for a Suburban (well, that may be stretching the point a bit ; -).

themossman · 11-15-2007, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TYE

I was considering a 135i to run as a track car. I merely was reitterating the article, not pricing it out for myself. Expecting cheap prices I was not at all being I have owned bmws almost exclusively. For me, I have an extremely modded e36 for street and track, so I took the 135i off my list a long time ago as I decided Im going to step up to a GT3.

Sorry...but if you were considering a 135 against a GT3 (996 or 997), well...I really don't know where to begin...

if you're considering a 70k+ car against a ~30k car, I can't see how 2-3k variation in the 30k car would make much difference when weighing other variables...

Robert · 11-15-2007, 08:55 PM

Ok what are competitors of 135i if you are looking for a performance car

I am comparing NEW and STOCK car at MSRP. If you want to compare 10 years old used Porsche please start a different post.

135i's competitor:

New EVO MR for 36k fully loaded
New STI for 35k (not sure if this is base)
New M coupe for 45k out the door.

terivera · 11-15-2007, 09:05 PM

Downside... Pay three weeks in advance, travel to germany (not cheap) fly home and wait a month for your car to arrive.

Wolfpack · 11-15-2007, 09:10 PM

So many items, so little time to respond.

Size:
I think it is interesting that people think that if the pricing is so close to the 3, they will just go with that car. There have been a few to note it here, and I am surprised that there are not more, but I find the new 335 to be such a large car that I immediately determined I would probably never to buy another 3 series, no matter how good they are. I want a smaller car. I loved my E36 and I like my E46, but I think that car is really way too big. I am still disappointed that the 135 is as large as it is. I was hoping for closer to my MINI.

Price:
I am also a little confused about all of the concern over pricing. A six year newer, 80 HP more, well optioned 135 will be about the same as my similarly optioned 2002 330 Ci. That is pretty good value people.

Cross shopping:
For those that will be passing on BMW and going with something else for whatever reason I offer this story. About 20 years ago, I was at an autocross and I met a guy driving a E30 325is (eventual 4 time national champion). I was a diehard Honda CRX driver and I asked him about his car as it was surprisingly fast. We talked for a bit and I asked him how much those things cost. When he told me, my jaw dropped and I said "I could by two Hondas for what one of those cost!?!" He replied "but then you would have two Hondas". At first I thought he was being an ass, but that stuck with me. The next year, he let me drive the car and I was more than impressed with the feel and dynamics of that car. A couple of years later, I joined the BMW club and continued to drive his BMW's once in a while. Five years after that I could afford to buy my first BMW. After my experiences, I knew that this was the car and the brand that was made for me. At this point, I really have no interest in anything else. I am sure that there are a lot of really hot, fast cars out there, but someone else can have them. I will buy what I know works for me, because all cars are not created equal. I hope everyone will be as happy in the long term as I have been with whatever they choose.

Euro Durch Tod · 11-15-2007, 09:35 PM

So a fully loaded 335i is 48k and fully loaded 135i is 52k? Um wuts the deal with that. I want stripped down so thatll work for me but damn this is a lil insane!

sashman123 · 11-15-2007, 11:37 PM

is it me or does it say that the power seats w/ memory are included in the sports package?

phattbam · 11-15-2007, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sashman123

is it me or does it say that the power seats w/ memory are included in the sports package?

ZPP = premium. yeah too bad it's not part of the ZSP, that'd be great.

sashman123 · 11-15-2007, 11:56 PM

i know that but in the catalogue if you look under packages its available under premium and sports package i was thinking bmw was being nice and wanted to dish out the power seats with its wonderful sport seats

sashman123 · 11-15-2007, 11:58 PM

nevermind i see the little 9 that indicates bmw doesnt wanna be nice

phattbam · 11-15-2007, 11:59 PM

I was really excited for the car.. now I'm just wondering which options are must haves.

silversprint · 11-16-2007, 12:47 AM

To make it even more confusing.

Right now you can pick a Z4M coupe in the mid $40s. This is for a car with premium package and NAV. Many dealers are discounting them $10k off MSRP.

The Mcoupe without premium and NAV actually can cost less than the 135i with added options.

Robert · 11-16-2007, 01:18 AM

What you can get with the nav

Navigation system with iDrive and Real Time Traffic Information - convenient functions at your fingertips.

The iDrive controller allows the driver to effortlessly operate the navigation system, climate, communication, and entertainment functions. The system adds an intuitive information menu that helps you personalize your settings for entertainment, display, and vehicle features. The information menu also provides clear feedback on your vehicle service status for your peace of mind. Voice Command allows you to simply speak to tune a radio station, input navigation information, or operate a number of vehicle related functions, while your eyes remain focused on the road ahead and your hands on the steering wheel. Real Time Traffic Information is also included, and does not require a monthly service charge. This service, available in many metropolitan areas, can help guide you toward less congested roads. Vehicles equipped with the optional BMW Assist system display its safety and convenience features like Roadside Assistance, Service Request, while Bluetooth® connectivity makes hands-free calling a snap.

Mitch135i · 11-16-2007, 01:28 AM

It's so cheap in the US you that in Europe, for example in Germany the basic 135i start's from 61.000 USD... I wonna live in US!

aus · 11-16-2007, 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by themossman

Sorry...but if you were considering a 135 against a GT3 (996 or 997), well...I really don't know where to begin...

if you're considering a 70k+ car against a ~30k car, I can't see how 2-3k variation in the 30k car would make much difference when weighing other variables...

Show me where I can get a GT3 for $70k and I'll take 10. I'll take second on the house to buy them. They sell for around $120k.

chrisxy1 · 11-16-2007, 01:51 AM

Mine will be 50k after tax and reg, and my 10 options:

Silver with Coral Red Leather
Auto
Prem Pack
Heat Seats
Nav
Sat. Radio
Prem Stereo
IPOD adapter
Metalic Paint
Park Dis. Control
Paddle Shifters

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Originally Posted by 1ster

Hooray! It's all here!

Sport Pack is only a grand!!! :drinking:

Steve Brown · 11-16-2007, 02:14 AM

I have seen many a response from US citizens concerning the pricing of the gorgeous 135i in the US, most folks are either grudgingly accepting or straight pissed off. Well, bear a thought for us poor Aussies. The A$/US$ exchange rate is about A$1.1 to US$1. The latest price guidance I have for a bog standard 135i delivered to Perth, West Australia is A$80,000 or US$72,700...about twice what it will cost you guys. If anyone has any idea how this works perhaps you can tell me.

menotakoala · 11-16-2007, 04:26 AM

Hm... If I want the 135i for $41,000 at most, what options to get?

I will definitely be getting the 6-speed auto and sports package, metallic paint, iPod and USB adapter, Comfort access.

Can I do away with the Premium Package and the Nav?

joelk · 11-16-2007, 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Euro Durch Tod

So a fully loaded 335i is 48k and fully loaded 135i is 52k? Um wuts the deal with that. I want stripped down so thatll work for me but damn this is a lil insane!

not trying to pick on you but no!!!

a fully loaded 335i coupe comes to about $55k. a fully loaded 135i coupe comes to about $48k. That is a 6 or 7 grand difference in price which seems pretty reasonable to me.

11-15-2007, 07:42 PM	#134
Mitch Detailing Guy 0 Rep 2 Posts Drives: Join Date: Nov 2007 iTrader: (0)	Looks like clsoe to 40K for me off first glance. Sounds pretty on the money for me.
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xspeedy Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 266 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2005 iTrader: (0)	I spent just under $41K for a 2007 335i sedan with ZSP, ZPP, and Nav via ED. This thing comparably equipped is going to cost just about the same (135i + ZSP + ZPP + Nav + Sound). US retail will be roughly $43, so an excellent ED will yield about $39. Less than $2K difference for a like-engine model upgrade is wrong. I know I'm comparing a coupe to a sedan (and the price increase for two less doors is another beef), but seriously... Does anyone know what the BMWCCA rebate will be for a 1? Same as a 3?
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atr_hugo No longer moderate 325 Rep 4,401 Posts Drives: '13 135i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: - iTrader: (0)	Don't know about the BMW CCA rebate yet - they say all new vehicles are eligible though. As far as your calculations on an ED cost for a 135i I came up with the same numbers as you a little while ago, cool!! Yup - it's pretty close to an 335i sedan in price but some of us (me included) want a smaller car. One of the attractions of the 1 series for me is the fact that it'll fit inside (just barely) of the outline of a Mazda 3. I personally don't equate size as an indicator of value - otherwise we'd be paying Ferrari prices for a Suburban (well, that may be stretching the point a bit ; -).
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Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	Ok what are competitors of 135i if you are looking for a performance car I am comparing NEW and STOCK car at MSRP. If you want to compare 10 years old used Porsche please start a different post. 135i's competitor: New EVO MR for 36k fully loaded New STI for 35k (not sure if this is base) New M coupe for 45k out the door. __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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terivera track Junkie 14 Rep 88 Posts Drives: 2011 1 Series M coupe AW Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Louisville Ky iTrader: (0)	Downside... Pay three weeks in advance, travel to germany (not cheap) fly home and wait a month for your car to arrive.
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Wolfpack Private First Class 1 Rep 199 Posts Drives: Everything in my garage Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Iowa iTrader: (0) Garage List 1999 Mercedes ML320 [0.00] 2006 MINI Cooper S [0.00] 1997 Mazda Miata [0.00] 2011 BMW 1M [0.00] 2002 BMW 330 Ci [0.00]	So many items, so little time to respond. Size: I think it is interesting that people think that if the pricing is so close to the 3, they will just go with that car. There have been a few to note it here, and I am surprised that there are not more, but I find the new 335 to be such a large car that I immediately determined I would probably never to buy another 3 series, no matter how good they are. I want a smaller car. I loved my E36 and I like my E46, but I think that car is really way too big. I am still disappointed that the 135 is as large as it is. I was hoping for closer to my MINI. Price: I am also a little confused about all of the concern over pricing. A six year newer, 80 HP more, well optioned 135 will be about the same as my similarly optioned 2002 330 Ci. That is pretty good value people. Cross shopping: For those that will be passing on BMW and going with something else for whatever reason I offer this story. About 20 years ago, I was at an autocross and I met a guy driving a E30 325is (eventual 4 time national champion). I was a diehard Honda CRX driver and I asked him about his car as it was surprisingly fast. We talked for a bit and I asked him how much those things cost. When he told me, my jaw dropped and I said "I could by two Hondas for what one of those cost!?!" He replied "but then you would have two Hondas". At first I thought he was being an ass, but that stuck with me. The next year, he let me drive the car and I was more than impressed with the feel and dynamics of that car. A couple of years later, I joined the BMW club and continued to drive his BMW's once in a while. Five years after that I could afford to buy my first BMW. After my experiences, I knew that this was the car and the brand that was made for me. At this point, I really have no interest in anything else. I am sure that there are a lot of really hot, fast cars out there, but someone else can have them. I will buy what I know works for me, because all cars are not created equal. I hope everyone will be as happy in the long term as I have been with whatever they choose. __________________ Wherever you go...there you are.
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Euro Durch Tod Private First Class 6 Rep 106 Posts Drives: mustang Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	So a fully loaded 335i is 48k and fully loaded 135i is 52k? Um wuts the deal with that. I want stripped down so thatll work for me but damn this is a lil insane!
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sashman123 Registered 0 Rep 4 Posts Drives: Join Date: Aug 2007 iTrader: (0)	i know that but in the catalogue if you look under packages its available under premium and sports package i was thinking bmw was being nice and wanted to dish out the power seats with its wonderful sport seats
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silversprint Private First Class 3 Rep 164 Posts Drives: Z4M Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SOCAL iTrader: (0)	To make it even more confusing. Right now you can pick a Z4M coupe in the mid $40s. This is for a car with premium package and NAV. Many dealers are discounting them $10k off MSRP. The Mcoupe without premium and NAV actually can cost less than the 135i with added options.
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Robert Major General 417 Rep 6,968 Posts Drives: 135i -> is350 -> Tesla M3 perf Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Socal iTrader: (1)	What you can get with the nav Navigation system with iDrive and Real Time Traffic Information - convenient functions at your fingertips. The iDrive controller allows the driver to effortlessly operate the navigation system, climate, communication, and entertainment functions. The system adds an intuitive information menu that helps you personalize your settings for entertainment, display, and vehicle features. The information menu also provides clear feedback on your vehicle service status for your peace of mind. Voice Command allows you to simply speak to tune a radio station, input navigation information, or operate a number of vehicle related functions, while your eyes remain focused on the road ahead and your hands on the steering wheel. Real Time Traffic Information is also included, and does not require a monthly service charge. This service, available in many metropolitan areas, can help guide you toward less congested roads. Vehicles equipped with the optional BMW Assist system display its safety and convenience features like Roadside Assistance, Service Request, while Bluetooth® connectivity makes hands-free calling a snap. __________________ - There's nothing in my pocket other than knives and lint
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Mitch135i New Member 4 Rep 10 Posts Drives: 135i manual 2009 Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Prague iTrader: (0)	It's so cheap in the US you that in Europe, for example in Germany the basic 135i start's from 61.000 USD... I wonna live in US!
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11-16-2007, 02:14 AM	#152
Steve Brown Private First Class 3 Rep 111 Posts Drives: June 2011, AW 1M coupe Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Perth iTrader: (0)	You lucky people! I have seen many a response from US citizens concerning the pricing of the gorgeous 135i in the US, most folks are either grudgingly accepting or straight pissed off. Well, bear a thought for us poor Aussies. The A$/US$ exchange rate is about A$1.1 to US$1. The latest price guidance I have for a bog standard 135i delivered to Perth, West Australia is A$80,000 or US$72,700...about twice what it will cost you guys. If anyone has any idea how this works perhaps you can tell me.
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