BMW Panoramic iDrive With New BMW Operating System X debut at CES 2025

[skyboum]

And I wanted the new X5 at the end of this year....

[AP]

This is all becoming a fashion rather than concentrating on the basics and ergonomics

Perhaps bmw engineers need to look up what that word means

Unfirtuanoty flashy gimmicky cooorfully lit up things appeals to a wider audience and this is what sells

Is this really better?

Examples of inappropriate tech could be
Gesture control - ass good as a button ?
Touchscreens - I feel totally inappropriate in a moving vehicle (I can concede perhaps when stationary there may be some benefits)

Rear view mirrors as screens. More expense and you have to refocus your eyes

The current HUD is an amazing piece of kit. Focused at 6 feet ahead

I think id5,6&7 are probably peak idrive
Easy to use and functional

I think bmw have gone down hill since

[jpw172]

Wow. This is ugly as all get out. Nothing says luxury about this to me at all.

[jpw172]

Looks like a Lincoln and Tesla had a BMW baby.

[Maverick241]

Love it! The more new tech the better! Love all the “get off my lawn” comments on this thread

[maguir2]

Take my money!

[lonestar22]

Originally Posted by sittingmongoose

This is really neat and all…but how about we just stop using super shitty materials and build quality in the new interiors?

Or how about a half decent stereo in cars that aren’t like the 7 series.

The regressions we have seen in interior quality and speakers is startling in the new models. (The EVs seem to be exempt from this for now for some reason.)

are you just regurgitating what you hear people saying online or have you actually checked out a new bmw?

[sittingmongoose]

Originally Posted by lonestar22

are you just regurgitating what you hear people saying online or have you actually checked out a new bmw?

I sat in the new x3, new 5 series, new m5 and listened to their high end stereos.

I have also owned many new ones and my friend trades them around every 3 months or so. So any of them I haven’t owned he has.

The new x3 was by far the worst offender, the quality inside was startling bad. Like legitimately one of the worst modern interiors I’ve ever seen. It was so bad I thought it had a lot of problems and sat in another one but it was exactly the same.

As for the stereos, they some how downgraded the x3 HK system over the last gen which was already bad. The 5 series doesn’t have access to the new bw diamond system. And yet the i4 has a very good HK system.

[BMW-ALPINA]

Leaked image!!

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by thereef510

BMW even got rid of one of the most intuitive features they ever created: automated climate comfort rules where you could set the temp for the heated seats and steering wheel to turn on at a user selectable temperature threshold. It requires no buttons, just programming, and in their infinite wisdom, they got rid of it in idrive 8 and 9.

Auto climate automatically turns on/off seat / steering wheel heat in my iDrive 8.0 car based on the temp setting and conditions. It's a combined ("Intelligent" climate control system.

Looks like iDrive 9 does similar.

[jphcbpa]

This 52 year old approves and looks forward to the evolution. I would be in the market in 2026/2027 for an iX5 or iX7 assuming they get the other interiors right (ie - leather options, sound system, headliner) I would be a buyer.

[thereef510]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

Auto climate automatically turns on/off seat / steering wheel heat in my iDrive 8.0 car based on the temp setting and conditions. It's a combined ("Intelligent" climate control system.

Looks like iDrive 9 does similar.

That’s just the thing: the computer inside the car decides when to turn it on and off, not you. In ID7, I set the parameters and the car just responds.

A lot of the time, I don’t like the A/C to be running because the heater gives me a headache. But I love that my seats and steering wheel automatically turn on and off depending on whatever temperature threshold I set it to.

Which is why I thought the climate control rules in ID7 were perfect. And they just had to tinker with it and make it worse. For no reason.

Also as far as I’m aware, there is no condition in which the steering wheel heater turns on under ID9

[bayarea328xit]

In the official image shown below, if I am seated in my regular driving position, I would have trouble reaching the main/middle display screen -- that is what made the iDrive knob so useful (vs touchscreen implementations)...

To reach the screen shown below, I would have to lean forward for my seat...

[LuisBoston]

Originally Posted by thereef510

That’s just the thing: the computer inside the car decides when to turn it on and off, not you. In ID7, I set the parameters and the car just responds.

A lot of the time, I don’t like the A/C to be running because the heater gives me a headache. But I love that my seats and steering wheel automatically turn on and off depending on whatever temperature threshold I set it to.

Which is why I thought the climate control rules in ID7 were perfect. And they just had to tinker with it and make it worse. For no reason.

Also as far as I’m aware, there is no condition in which the steering wheel heater turns on under ID9

In my car, I can turn the Intelligent off and set everything the way I want it, including the temp for the blower. Apparently I can also say “hey BMW my ass is hot” and it will turn off the seat heater 🤣

[BMWbiker]

Originally Posted by ledphut

As long as they eliminate the retarded warning symbol that takes over the HUD when the nannies think you’re too close to the car in front I’ll be a happy camper.

There is a solution for that: don’t tailgate.

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by thereef510

That’s just the thing: the computer inside the car decides when to turn it on and off, not you. In ID7, I set the parameters and the car just responds.

A lot of the time, I don’t like the A/C to be running because the heater gives me a headache. But I love that my seats and steering wheel automatically turn on and off depending on whatever temperature threshold I set it to.

Which is why I thought the climate control rules in ID7 were perfect. And they just had to tinker with it and make it worse. For no reason.

Also as far as I’m aware, there is no condition in which the steering wheel heater turns on under ID9

It literally says in the documentation luisboston posted above that the heated steering is one of the components automatically controlled on the auto setting in ID9.

[thereef510]

Originally Posted by Maverick241

It literally says in the documentation luisboston posted above that the heated steering is one of the components automatically controlled on the auto setting in ID9.

I stand corrected on that point. But I still like it in ID7 when I can have the heated seats and steering wheel turn on without the entire HVAC system also being forced to also be running.

[Maverick241]

Originally Posted by LuisBoston

Love the comments:

‘This isn’t for the olds, only gen z’

Thus, BMW is hitting its target: the future, not the past.

Exactly.

[BMWbiker]

My 2015 F31 lost its telematics in about 2021, when 3G was shut down. As the second owner, I had use of telematics for only a few years, then I didn’t.

That was a definite annoyance, but at least everything else about the car continued to work well.

What happens with a car like this, in such a scenario?

Also, how much can the software be updated in a car like this? One hopes that it is more updatable than all previous BMWs.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by Maverick241

Love it! The more new tech the better! Love all the “get off my lawn” comments on this thread

I would recommend that you buy the first year model and report back

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by thereef510

I stand corrected on that point. But I still like it in ID7 when I can have the heated seats and steering wheel turn on without the entire HVAC system also being forced to also be running.

Absolutely

[NorCalAthlete]

I posted about this in another thread:

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

Interesting use case. Hadn't thought of that but it makes sense.

For me it just became habit - I honestly almost never look at the main display gauges anymore, just the HUD. I think in the future, I could probably be just fine with a HUD + infotainment combo with no central gauges (or minimal gauges instead of the huge displays we're getting). IMO, the HUD is the main reason to splurge on the exec package.

I think I'll probably like this better than ID8. I do wish they'd kept some of the idrive controller center controls as I hate the touchscreen stuff, but the HUD / gauges shift I'll probably be ok with / get used to quickly.