Anyone have Koni Yellows?

1013mm · 03-30-2010, 10:48 PM

Just got some Yellows, just wondering what everyone has their setting on?

ianc · 03-30-2010, 10:52 PM

Fronts can be adjusted on the fly but the rears are a bit of beeyotch from what I understand?

ianc

cpt97m3 · 03-31-2010, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by ianc

Fronts can be adjusted on the fly but the rears are a bit of beeyotch from what I understand?

ianc

Well not that hard. They just need to be off the car.

The rear's can be made to be externally adjustable. I think the Dinan's come that way already.

1013mm · 04-02-2010, 09:39 AM

no one has some recommended settings???

ianc · 04-02-2010, 10:13 AM

I'd be interested to hear people's comments as well; I just pulled the trigger on a set from HPA.

John, if no one answers, you could probably give Harold a call and ask what to start with for the rears at least.

CPT, what needs to be done to make them externally adjustable?

ianc

1013mm · 04-03-2010, 08:28 AM

the fronts will be externally adjustable, not sure how easy though. the rear requires way too much work, thats why I want to know some common settings to dial in so I dont have to pay double for the back....

ianc · 04-03-2010, 12:18 PM

I just got these yesterday although I have not installed them yet. The fronts are easy to adjust by means of a small plastic wheel which slots onto a rod at the top of the strut. The rears need to be compressed, then the shock rod turned in relation to the body. Looks like there is 720 deg. of rotation for both fronts and rears.

Just need someone to chime in with a good starting point for the rears. Full soft maybe? Why don't you do yours first John, then I can go to school on you?

I will be running the Eibachs though, which I believe may be a bit softer than the H&R's?

Not sure...

ianc

ajshanny · 04-03-2010, 12:57 PM

I'm happy with 1/4 from full soft both front and rear. I've tried stiffer settings which were too harsh for everyday driving. FYI - even on full soft, the yellows are substantially stiffer than stock. Btw, I initially installed the yellows with Eibach springs but found that combo way too stiff and the drop was too low for my taste. I'm now running the yellows with stock springs, which I prefer by a wide margin. I'm thinking about adding a stiffer sway bar to reduce the body roll, but even without the sway, the body roll is less than it was with the stock suspension.

Hope that helps.

ianc · 04-03-2010, 01:09 PM

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Btw, I initially installed the yellows with Eibach springs but found that combo way too stiff and the drop was too low for my taste.

Yes, I read some of your threads about this combo. I'm coming from an old 911 with modified suspension though, so I don't think I'll be bothered to the same extent that you have. The car with stock sport suspension seems very soft and wallowy to me and the roll's gotta go... As far as drop, I've read about 30 mm, which doesn't seem excessive considering the stock wheel well gap. We'll see...

ianc

1013mm · 04-03-2010, 01:22 PM

I'm on H&R sport so my settings will be dramatically different as they are way stiffer springs than stock and eibach.

ajshanny · 04-03-2010, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ianc

Yes, I read some of your threads about this combo. I'm coming from an old 911 with modified suspension though, so I don't think I'll be bothered to the same extent that you have. The car with stock sport suspension seems very soft and wallowy to me and the roll's gotta go... As far as drop, I've read about 30 mm, which doesn't seem excessive considering the stock wheel well gap. We'll see...

ianc

I thought a 30mm drop sounded reasonable as well, but the drop was much lower than expected with the Eibachs. I don't think I ever measured, but it looked like it was dropped much more than 30mm.

Even with the stock springs, the yellows do control the wallow and body roll much better than stock.

ianc · 04-03-2010, 01:42 PM

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'm on H&R sport so my settings will be dramatically different as they are way stiffer springs than stock and eibach.

I've been told that the Eibachs are not quite as stiff, but that there is not a dramatic difference between the two?

ianc

Yvette · 04-28-2010, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jzhang

I'm on H&R sport so my settings will be dramatically different as they are way stiffer springs than stock and eibach.

which setting are you on the koni and how do you like them?

RäDIOCLäSH · 04-28-2010, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by jzhang

Just got some Yellows, just wondering what everyone has their setting on?

I ran Koni Yellow's on my Cooper S on the "medium" setting....loved 'em

....would assume same would be true for a nice street setup for the 1.

ianc · 04-28-2010, 02:07 PM

I just finished installing last week and like them quite a bit paired with the Eibachs. What is the best setting? Depends on a lot of things...

The Sports have a total of 720 deg of adjustability from full soft to full firm. My setup is the stock Bridgestone RFT's, Eibach Prokit and the E93 front swaybar, along with the M3 front tension rods and wishbones.

I have my rears set 1/2 turn (180 deg) up from full soft and the fronts set at one full turn (360 deg) up from full soft, or midway between full soft and full hard. For me, this is working great. I could even go a little stiffer on the rears, but they are a pain to change, and everyone had me worried about how harsh the ride quality was with the RFT's, so I went a little conservative on them.

On the flip side, I'm coming from an '87 Carrera with 22 and 29 mm torsion bars which was quite stiff, so I'm rather used to it. In addition, the roads in northern CA are generally quite good since we don't have frost heaves.

When I switch out the RFT's in a year or two, I will probably go stiffer both front and rear, but for now it's fine. HTH,

ianc

Yvette · 04-28-2010, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ianc

I just finished installing last week and like them quite a bit paired with the Eibachs. What is the best setting? Depends on a lot of things...

The Sports have a total of 720 deg of adjustability from full soft to full firm. My setup is the stock Bridgestone RFT's, Eibach Prokit and the E93 front swaybar, along with the M3 front tension rods and wishbones.

I have my rears set 1/2 turn (180 deg) up from full soft and the fronts set at one full turn (360 deg) up from full soft, or midway between full soft and full hard. For me, this is working great. I could even go a little stiffer on the rears, but they are a pain to change, and everyone had me worried about how harsh the ride quality was with the RFT's, so I went a little conservative on them.

On the flip side, I'm coming from an '87 Carrera with 22 and 29 mm torsion bars which was quite stiff, so I'm rather used to it. In addition, the roads in northern CA are generally quite good since we don't have frost heaves.

When I switch out the RFT's in a year or two, I will probably go stiffer both front and rear, but for now it's fine. HTH,

ianc

now is it true, that full soft setting is still stiffer than stock?
thanks

ianc · 04-28-2010, 02:31 PM

Yes, definitely.

Ruffan · 04-28-2010, 02:55 PM

Dinan uses Koni Yellows in their suspension system for the 1. They are "custom valved" so it may not be a perfect comparison, but Dinan ships them on their recomended setting of +1.5 turns from the softest setting. I tighten the fronts a bit when on the track, but they feel great to me on the street. The dampening is WAY better than stock.

ianc · 04-28-2010, 03:08 PM

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Dinan ships them on their recomended setting of +1.5 turns from the softest setting

Interesting. I would think this would be highly dependent on what wheel\tire combo you're running though. Or are there specific wheels\tires that come with the various Dinan stages?

ianc

Ruffan · 04-28-2010, 03:51 PM

Not wheel/tire specific for Dinan, although Dinan tuned their suspension using stock wheels and non-runflat, summer tires.

1013mm · 04-28-2010, 03:53 PM

finally got these on guys and I love these way more than oem!!! the are on medium setting with h&r although I wish I would have went stiffer, but its still better than stock! A LOT better! I finally have some rebound and I won't bottom out on dips!

thez99 · 04-29-2010, 12:48 AM

What is everyones comment on the FSD's compared to the yellows? I realize u can adjust the yellows, but honestly, I dont have much of a clue how to adjust or what level to adjust to, and id hate to be goin back n forth to my shop just to do so.

The FSD's are self-adjusting determined by the road, correct? I think overall im a little uneasy bout messing with this car's suspension, I had neuspeed springs and fsd's put on my Mk5 GTI and not sure if i was real happy with how it turned out, the ride was harsher and sorta clunky. It could have been a not so perfect install by my previous shop but I dunno, just seemed like all that money spent into it really didnt make much of a difference..least on that ride.

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ianc Ex '87 Carrera 246 Rep 1,259 Posts Drives: '10 TiAg 6MT 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Redwood Shores, California iTrader: (0)	Fronts can be adjusted on the fly but the rears are a bit of beeyotch from what I understand? ianc
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1013mm aka 1013MM 1246 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	no one has some recommended settings??? __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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ianc Ex '87 Carrera 246 Rep 1,259 Posts Drives: '10 TiAg 6MT 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Redwood Shores, California iTrader: (0)	I'd be interested to hear people's comments as well; I just pulled the trigger on a set from HPA. John, if no one answers, you could probably give Harold a call and ask what to start with for the rears at least. CPT, what needs to be done to make them externally adjustable? ianc
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1013mm aka 1013MM 1246 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	the fronts will be externally adjustable, not sure how easy though. the rear requires way too much work, thats why I want to know some common settings to dial in so I dont have to pay double for the back.... __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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ianc Ex '87 Carrera 246 Rep 1,259 Posts Drives: '10 TiAg 6MT 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Redwood Shores, California iTrader: (0)	I just got these yesterday although I have not installed them yet. The fronts are easy to adjust by means of a small plastic wheel which slots onto a rod at the top of the strut. The rears need to be compressed, then the shock rod turned in relation to the body. Looks like there is 720 deg. of rotation for both fronts and rears. Just need someone to chime in with a good starting point for the rears. Full soft maybe? Why don't you do yours first John, then I can go to school on you? I will be running the Eibachs though, which I believe may be a bit softer than the H&R's? Not sure... ianc
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ajshanny First Lieutenant 111 Rep 365 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	I'm happy with 1/4 from full soft both front and rear. I've tried stiffer settings which were too harsh for everyday driving. FYI - even on full soft, the yellows are substantially stiffer than stock. Btw, I initially installed the yellows with Eibach springs but found that combo way too stiff and the drop was too low for my taste. I'm now running the yellows with stock springs, which I prefer by a wide margin. I'm thinking about adding a stiffer sway bar to reduce the body roll, but even without the sway, the body roll is less than it was with the stock suspension. Hope that helps.
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1013mm aka 1013MM 1246 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	I'm on H&R sport so my settings will be dramatically different as they are way stiffer springs than stock and eibach. __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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ianc Ex '87 Carrera 246 Rep 1,259 Posts Drives: '10 TiAg 6MT 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Redwood Shores, California iTrader: (0)	I just finished installing last week and like them quite a bit paired with the Eibachs. What is the best setting? Depends on a lot of things... The Sports have a total of 720 deg of adjustability from full soft to full firm. My setup is the stock Bridgestone RFT's, Eibach Prokit and the E93 front swaybar, along with the M3 front tension rods and wishbones. I have my rears set 1/2 turn (180 deg) up from full soft and the fronts set at one full turn (360 deg) up from full soft, or midway between full soft and full hard. For me, this is working great. I could even go a little stiffer on the rears, but they are a pain to change, and everyone had me worried about how harsh the ride quality was with the RFT's, so I went a little conservative on them. On the flip side, I'm coming from an '87 Carrera with 22 and 29 mm torsion bars which was quite stiff, so I'm rather used to it. In addition, the roads in northern CA are generally quite good since we don't have frost heaves. When I switch out the RFT's in a year or two, I will probably go stiffer both front and rear, but for now it's fine. HTH, ianc
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ianc Ex '87 Carrera 246 Rep 1,259 Posts Drives: '10 TiAg 6MT 135i Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Redwood Shores, California iTrader: (0)	Yes, definitely.
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Ruffan Member 30 Rep 392 Posts Drives: '09 135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gotham iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	Dinan uses Koni Yellows in their suspension system for the 1. They are "custom valved" so it may not be a perfect comparison, but Dinan ships them on their recomended setting of +1.5 turns from the softest setting. I tighten the fronts a bit when on the track, but they feel great to me on the street. The dampening is WAY better than stock. __________________ 2009 135i Dinan Stuff
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Ruffan Member 30 Rep 392 Posts Drives: '09 135i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Gotham iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 135i [0.00]	Not wheel/tire specific for Dinan, although Dinan tuned their suspension using stock wheels and non-runflat, summer tires. __________________ 2009 135i Dinan Stuff
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1013mm aka 1013MM 1246 Rep 9,545 Posts Drives: pokingly flush Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Los Angeles / HK iTrader: (7) Garage List 2009 135i [8.26]	finally got these on guys and I love these way more than oem!!! the are on medium setting with h&r although I wish I would have went stiffer, but its still better than stock! A LOT better! I finally have some rebound and I won't bottom out on dips! __________________ -John Project YOSHI Sale Thread
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thez99 Colonel 152 Rep 2,757 Posts Drives: 2017 Audi A4 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Arden, NC iTrader: (5) Garage List 2013 BMW 135i [0.00]	What is everyones comment on the FSD's compared to the yellows? I realize u can adjust the yellows, but honestly, I dont have much of a clue how to adjust or what level to adjust to, and id hate to be goin back n forth to my shop just to do so. The FSD's are self-adjusting determined by the road, correct? I think overall im a little uneasy bout messing with this car's suspension, I had neuspeed springs and fsd's put on my Mk5 GTI and not sure if i was real happy with how it turned out, the ride was harsher and sorta clunky. It could have been a not so perfect install by my previous shop but I dunno, just seemed like all that money spent into it really didnt make much of a difference..least on that ride.
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