Curb weight - definitive answer?

[Canyon Carver]

Ok - so I know it's kind of splitting hairs, but weight matters and I'm curious what the ACTUAL curb weight is on my car (Despite what is printed). Some reports say 3200, some say 3400...my car is completely stock (Except for the performance suspension) with 6spd, no power seats, no Nav, no idrive, etc...

Thoughts? What say you?

[pixelblue]

should be closer to 3350 lbs. last time I had corner balanced, my car weighed in at 3250 with half tank of gas and on super light wheels and tires. good for around 100 lbs.

[Wings0fRed]

Weighed my car at Daytona before a track day...here are my numbers:

One is with the car empty, the other with a 170lb driver...

EMPTY

LF 859
RF 906
RR 802
LR 808

GROSS = 3375

W/ Me in it

LF 926
RF 917
RR 830
LR 870

GROSS = 3543


Mostly stock 2008 135i. It came w/ almost all the options (power seats, navi system, parking control, rain sensing wipers, xenon lights, etc), is an MT, has BMW Perf. Exhaust, BMW Perf. Susp., BMW Power Perf.kit, and stock wheels...Oh yeah, full tank of gas too, I believe.

[MikeAdler10]

May be you are right, I think you should have to take some steps to make the weight less as much as possible and then drive it and post your reply here.

[BrokenVert]

wow a stock coupe weighs that much?

That really voids the weight argument against verts...

[Canyon Carver]

Originally Posted by Wings0fRed

Weighed my car at Daytona before a track day...here are my numbers:

One is with the car empty, the other with a 170lb driver...

EMPTY

LF 859
RF 906
RR 802
LR 808

GROSS = 3375

W/ Me in it

LF 926
RF 917
RR 830
LR 870

GROSS = 3543


Mostly stock 2008 135i. It came w/ almost all the options (power seats, navi system, parking control, rain sensing wipers, xenon lights, etc), is an MT, has BMW Perf. Exhaust, BMW Perf. Susp., BMW Power Perf.kit, and stock wheels...Oh yeah, full tank of gas too, I believe.

Interesting...and thanks. So I wonder what we can subtract for a car with no options. 75lbs? 150lbs?

I'm doing a Lime Rock track day in April. I'll weigh it if they have a scale and report back...

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

wow a stock coupe weighs that much?

That really voids the weight argument against verts...

BMW lists the 135i coupe as 3,373 and the 135i convertible as 3,638, or 265 pounds, which isn't too bad. 128i coupe - 3,208 and the convertible is 3,494, for a 286 pound difference. I assume that's just content difference.

To show the disadvantage of a folding hard top, the 335i coupe is listed as 3,560 and the convertible is 3,979 for a penalty of 419 pounds.

All weights are for manual transmissions.

[gnpower]

I weighed mine a couple years back at the track and with a 1/2 tank it was 3460lbs.

[JimD]

Another place to get a weight is at a scrap metal dealer. The few I have visited are set up to weigh a vehicle before and after you throw your scrap metal in their hopper. If you asked nicely, you could probably get a weight for your car.

Jim

[Canyon Carver]

Originally Posted by JimD

Another place to get a weight is at a scrap metal dealer. The few I have visited are set up to weigh a vehicle before and after you throw your scrap metal in their hopper. If you asked nicely, you could probably get a weight for your car.

Jim

Great idea...thanks, Jim!

[fourtailpipes]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

BMW lists the 135i coupe as 3,373 and the 135i convertible as 3,638, or 265 pounds, which isn't too bad. 128i coupe - 3,208 and the convertible is 3,494, for a 286 pound difference. I assume that's just content difference.

To show the disadvantage of a folding hard top, the 335i coupe is listed as 3,560 and the convertible is 3,979 for a penalty of 419 pounds.

All weights are for manual transmissions.

based on the above, thats almost an 8% weight penalty for a ragtop 135, and 10.5% for a metaltop 335! to add insult to injury, that extra weight is in the worst possible location! glad i'm not driving around with 2-3 extra passangers strapped to the roof.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

based on the above, thats almost an 8% weight penalty for a ragtop 135, and 10.5% for a metaltop 335! to add insult to injury, that extra weight is in the worst possible location! glad i'm not driving around with 2-3 extra passangers strapped to the roof.

Wait, what are you talking about there? Sorry, not mad just confused.

On a 135 at least the roof itself probably less weight than the metal roof and sunroof on a 135 coupe.

Add to that the fact that the heaviest part of the vert change, the motors and bracing, are located under the rear seat, low in the car.

It honestly doesnt make as much difference in all out performance as most people on this board like to think. In a battle between coupe and vert it comes down to the drive more than anything.

[fourtailpipes]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Wait, what are you talking about there? Sorry, not mad just confused.

On a 135 at least the roof itself probably less weight than the metal roof and sunroof on a 135 coupe.

Add to that the fact that the heaviest part of the vert change, the motors and bracing, are located under the rear seat, low in the car.

It honestly doesnt make as much difference in all out performance as most people on this board like to think. In a battle between coupe and vert it comes down to the drive more than anything.

i could very well be wrong about the placement of the ballast, but there's no getting around the fact that the total delta is more than double the weight of a cute girlfriend.

anyone have a way of getting to the weight of a sunroof versus sunroof delete? that's what i REALLY want to know!!!

[BFD99]

I'll roll thru the scales in the next day or so and find out what mine weighs.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

i could very well be wrong about the placement of the ballast, but there's no getting around the fact that the total delta is more than double the weight of a cute girlfriend.

ok, but like I said most of the weight is low in the car, below your ass low. It really only hurts acceleration substantially, I think .2 or .3 seconds to 60.

And thats a good one. Havent heard that kind of weight estimate before

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes

anyone have a way of getting to the weight of a sunroof versus sunroof delete? that's what i REALLY want to know!!!

its about 50 lbs at the tippy top of the car

[Canyon Carver]

Originally Posted by fourtailpipes View Post
i could very well be wrong about the placement of the ballast, but there's no getting around the fact that the total delta is more than double the weight of a cute girlfriend.

But the real question is: Is it more than double the weight of an ugly girlfriend...

[Cuz5150]

Here is my old car/sold car- O9/Msport/Idrive/Manual seats with out Heat/Ipod/usb. Also the car had a FULL tank of gas....aka topped off.
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[carchrism5]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

Wait, what are you talking about there? Sorry, not mad just confused.

On a 135 at least the roof itself probably less weight than the metal roof and sunroof on a 135 coupe.

Add to that the fact that the heaviest part of the vert change, the motors and bracing, are located under the rear seat, low in the car.

It honestly doesnt make as much difference in all out performance as most people on this board like to think. In a battle between coupe and vert it comes down to the drive more than anything.

Please do not comment on handling when you drive a vert. That's an oxymoron.

[BrokenVert]

People always have to start crap...

Originally Posted by carchrism5

Please do not comment on handling when you drive a vert. That's an oxymoron.

[carchrism5]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

People always have to start crap...

That was humorous, especially coming from you. I've read your posts, that is all you do, come in and try to start shit. You should tell your dad to turn your convertible in and get you a VW, people on VWVortex are just like you. You'd have a blast on there.

[BrokenVert]

Originally Posted by carchrism5

That was humorous, especially coming from you. I've read your posts, that is all you do, come in and try to start shit. You should tell your dad to turn your convertible in and get you a VW, people on VWVortex are just like you. You'd have a blast on there.

does anybody else see whats going on here? Unfounded personal attacks going on here. Which by the way. Ive never done. I dont personally attack and I dont start it.
Also, incorrect personal attacks. Its my car and I bought it. I happen to be young. Get over shit that isnt your business to begin with.

Are you gonna keep going attacking me out of nowhere? Because I have a Picard for every occasion.

I also find it hard to believe that youve read enough of my posts to get a proper understanding of the person that I am. Fact is, I wouldnt be on this forum if I all I did was start shit. I wouldve been kicked off well before I hit 100 posts, let alone 7,294. Why dont you actually use some logic before you make claims, it would help you in the future.

But can anybody not take one of these threads off topic? Jesus

[RnmEvo9]

I saw a fully optioned 2008 135i coupe AT that had a curb weight of 3425 on motortrend when it went head to head with a 2008 Evo X. I don't care what anyone says, but that is a porker, more so those who have convertibles carrying around an additional 200+lbs.