How I Scored a Fabulous Deal from the Comfort of My Easy Chair

robert.payne · 04-09-2008, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by 0002s

Glad you are in production. I just had to bust your balls a little. Enjoy the two month wait.

Did you get it from your original dealer....?

yep.

no worries on the ball bustin'.

InsaneSkippy · 04-09-2008, 12:29 PM

Congratulations Robert

That's a heck of a deal.

Imola.ZHP · 04-09-2008, 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tturedraider

Dude, you've got warranty on your ZHP to 100k miles and you've got a ZHP!!! Imola, no less!!! Keep the ZHP while you go back to school and reward yourself with the 1er after you finish.

haha, thanks, thats what I've been thinking today, tomorrow I'll probably want a 1er again...

lol

100,000k warranty OR 04/09, thats just a year away

I'm kinda scared to own a "Euro" without warranty, much less, owe two years worth of payments on one. I guess I should have thought of that at purchase, eek!

I was thinking base, no option, 1er on a lease for low payments and no maintenance, then either purchase it or lease another BMW something when those 3 years are up. Unfortunately my college credits are too old, so I'm looking at 7-8 years of school to become a dentist. Then who knows what I'll reward myself with, probably something that starts with an ///M :thumbup:

/hijack

Brandon26pdx · 04-09-2008, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by robert.payne

They do now. Got production number 669xxxx in hand.

Chalk the delay up to operator error on the computer.

-robert

I thought the dealer didn't have an allocation to give you?

Someone summarize for me please.:iono:

robert.payne · 04-09-2008, 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Brandon26pdx

I thought the dealer didn't have an allocation to give you?

Someone summarize for me please.:iono:

Some people were speculating that the dealer didn't have an allocation for me and was just blowing smoke up my skirt. The reality is that my CA was having difficulty inputing the P1 options I wanted because he was trying to change their April allocation from a dealer spec to a customer car.

Adrian was kindly trying to look up my car in the system and noted that Valley BMW didn't have any allocations. I didn't order from Valley, never said I did. I only mentioned them as one of the dealers who responded in a positive manner to my original offer thinking someone else might be able to get a better deal than msrp through them.

-robert

hayabusa55 · 04-09-2008, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by robert.payne

They do now. Got production number 669xxxx in hand.

Chalk the delay up to operator error on the computer.

-robert

Excellent. Congratulations! I will probably use the Rizzo method in a month or two when I decide to purchase a car. It'll be either a 335i coupe or a 135i. I can't decide.

SCA1 · 04-09-2008, 11:34 PM

I couldn't decide either, 'till I drove them both. 135i now on order :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

InsaneSkippy · 04-10-2008, 01:59 PM

Well, thanks to the Rizzo Payne method, I just got an email back on a deal I sent out. Looks like I've got a bite for a deal for 1k over ED invoice. Not too bad IMO

I'm going to take it to my current CA and see if they'll match it. If not, looks like my wait just got a little longer LOL

robert.payne · 04-10-2008, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneSkippy

Well, thanks to the Rizzo Payne method, I just got an email back on a deal I sent out. Looks like I've got a bite for a deal for 1k over ED invoice. Not too bad IMO

I'm going to take it to my current CA and see if they'll match it. If not, looks like my wait just got a little longer LOL

Congrats on a fantastic deal, Skippy.

InsaneSkippy · 04-10-2008, 03:25 PM

Thanks, I owe it to this thread though! lol

Ironically enough I just got my ED packet in the mail today. I emailed my current CA to ask if he can match this price. We'll see what he has to say lol.

AchtungF80 · 04-10-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by InsaneSkippy

Well, thanks to the Rizzo Payne method, I just got an email back on a deal I sent out. Looks like I've got a bite for a deal for 1k over ED invoice. Not too bad IMO

I'm going to take it to my current CA and see if they'll match it. If not, looks like my wait just got a little longer LOL

Welcome to the $1k over ED invoice club! :eyebulge::roundel:

InsaneSkippy · 04-10-2008, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AchtungE30

Welcome to the $1k over ED invoice club! :eyebulge::roundel:

Woot! Now I can actually afford my trip to Europe!

SCA1 · 04-10-2008, 06:26 PM

That's a great deal, and I think Robert holds the record for fewest $ over invoice so far.

The beauty of the Payne Method is this: who cares if 20 dealers tell you to eff off in response to your low offer, all you need is one to be in an agreeable mood and your in business!

InsaneSkippy · 04-10-2008, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SCA1

That's a great deal, and I think Robert holds the record for fewest $ over invoice so far.

The beauty of the Payne Method is this: who cares if 20 dealers tell you to eff off in response to your low offer, all you need is one to be in an agreeable mood and your in business!

LOL Well I'm certainly not complaining about not getting the most money discounted. I'm just happy I managed to save myself a couple grand lol

I actually received some pretty nasty emails from some dealerships. In the end, it doesn't even matter because all it takes is one to say YES!

Ringmeister · 04-10-2008, 08:05 PM

I'm sorry but to me it's not worth the couple hundred you can save by doing this. IMO, it's important to get a relationship going with a dealer.... preferably a dealer which is close to where you live or work.
I've been using the same BMW dealer since 1979 for sales and service. Could I get a slightly better deal somewhere else? Probably, but when I need service they take me on zero notice and I get great service. When a new car comes out I get the opportunity to order the first one (got the first 135i and also had an order on the first M3 which I didn't take). The people there just treat me great and I can actually call some of them my friends.

Do you think the servicing dealer is going to go out of their way for someone that doesn't buy the car from them? Don't think so. To me it's not worth the savings.

InsaneSkippy · 04-10-2008, 08:25 PM

Luckily the second dealership isn't all that far from me so it's no trouble for me to go there for service lol

ARES45 · 04-10-2008, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ringmeister

I'm sorry but to me it's not worth the couple hundred you can save by doing this. IMO, it's important to get a relationship going with a dealer.... preferably a dealer which is close to where you live or work.
I've been using the same BMW dealer since 1979 for sales and service. Could I get a slightly better deal somewhere else? Probably, but when I need service they take me on zero notice and I get great service. When a new car comes out I get the opportunity to order the first one (got the first 135i and also had an order on the first M3 which I didn't take). The people there just treat me great and I can actually call some of them my friends.

Do you think the servicing dealer is going to go out of their way for someone that doesn't buy the car from them? Don't think so. To me it's not worth the savings.

I will use this method for all of my future transactions because I will never be able to establish a long time relationship with a dealer, so I will be looking for the best deal. I really should have done it with this car, but I doubt I would have gotten anything on a first and only allocation car. In any case, not everyone needs the relationship with the dealer, however in general I do buy into the support your local business idea.

AchtungF80 · 04-11-2008, 07:50 AM

I look at car sales like this... The car salesman are not your friends, nor are the guys in the service dept., they don't really care about you, they just want to move units in and out efficiently and quickly with minimal hassle. In the end, all these people wanna do is make money and go home.

You can schedule test drives any place and get service almost any place.

Now, if I encounter a salesman or a service writer who consistently and blatantly looks out for my best interests and it shows, then I would send him my friends and family.

But none of that reasoning would push me to spend an additional $2500-$4200 on a car.

InsaneSkippy · 04-11-2008, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by AchtungE30

I look at car sales like this... The car salesman are not your friends, nor are the guys in the service dept., they don't really care about you, they just want to move units in and out efficiently and quickly with minimal hassle. In the end, all these people wanna do is make money and go home.

You can schedule test drives any place and get service almost any place.

Now, if I encounter a salesman or a service writer who consistently and blatantly looks out for my best interests and it shows, then I would send him my friends and family.

But none of that reasoning would push me to spend an additional $2500-$4200 on a car.

Exactly my thoughts, this will probably be my only BMW since I can barely afford this one.

SCA1 · 04-11-2008, 12:11 PM

Just checked out Owner's Circle and I'm now scheduled for production and have a VIN number.

My CA told me that once there is a firm customer order on a car they try to move those up in the production line whenever possible.

InsaneSkippy · 04-11-2008, 01:13 PM

Still no email from my CA. If I don't have an email when I wake up tomorrow I think I'll just call in to cancel my order and go ahead with this second dealership.

I need to get the ED going and if I have to place a new order I'll have to do it ASAP.

I'm wondering if I can just have the second dealer take over my current order? This way I wouldn't have to start the process from scratch, and the first dealership wouldn't have to waste their allocation on my car.

SCA1 · 04-11-2008, 04:22 PM

Stick with the CA that gave you an order number! He came through for you. Everything else is just talk.

And I'd be concerned that you could end up losing out on your order entirely if you try to get it transferred.

Just my $.02 ....

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InsaneSkippy Lieutenant Colonel 79 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	Congratulations Robert That's a heck of a deal. __________________
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SCA1 Private First Class 4 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 911 coming soon... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I couldn't decide either, 'till I drove them both. 135i now on order :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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InsaneSkippy Lieutenant Colonel 79 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	Well, thanks to the Rizzo Payne method, I just got an email back on a deal I sent out. Looks like I've got a bite for a deal for 1k over ED invoice. Not too bad IMO I'm going to take it to my current CA and see if they'll match it. If not, looks like my wait just got a little longer LOL __________________
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InsaneSkippy Lieutenant Colonel 79 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	Thanks, I owe it to this thread though! lol Ironically enough I just got my ED packet in the mail today. I emailed my current CA to ask if he can match this price. We'll see what he has to say lol. __________________
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SCA1 Private First Class 4 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 911 coming soon... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Nicely done Skip ! That's a great deal, and I think Robert holds the record for fewest $ over invoice so far. The beauty of the Payne Method is this: who cares if 20 dealers tell you to eff off in response to your low offer, all you need is one to be in an agreeable mood and your in business!
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Ringmeister Private First Class 21 Rep 167 Posts Drives: BMWs and some other stuff Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Dirty Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 1974 BMW 2002 turbo [0.00] 2001 BMW M Coupe [0.00] 1989 BMW M3 [0.00] 1988 BMW M3 [0.00]	I'm sorry but to me it's not worth the couple hundred you can save by doing this. IMO, it's important to get a relationship going with a dealer.... preferably a dealer which is close to where you live or work. I've been using the same BMW dealer since 1979 for sales and service. Could I get a slightly better deal somewhere else? Probably, but when I need service they take me on zero notice and I get great service. When a new car comes out I get the opportunity to order the first one (got the first 135i and also had an order on the first M3 which I didn't take). The people there just treat me great and I can actually call some of them my friends. Do you think the servicing dealer is going to go out of their way for someone that doesn't buy the car from them? Don't think so. To me it's not worth the savings. __________________ 1974 2002 turbo 1988 M3 Club Racer 1989 M3 Sport Evo #601 2001 M Coupe 2010 M3 Individual
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InsaneSkippy Lieutenant Colonel 79 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	Luckily the second dealership isn't all that far from me so it's no trouble for me to go there for service lol __________________
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AchtungF80 Brigadier General 276 Rep 3,465 Posts Drives: 997.2 GT3, '17 G30 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 135is [9.50] 2010 Cooper S [10.00] 1991 318is [10.00]	I look at car sales like this... The car salesman are not your friends, nor are the guys in the service dept., they don't really care about you, they just want to move units in and out efficiently and quickly with minimal hassle. In the end, all these people wanna do is make money and go home. You can schedule test drives any place and get service almost any place. Now, if I encounter a salesman or a service writer who consistently and blatantly looks out for my best interests and it shows, then I would send him my friends and family. But none of that reasoning would push me to spend an additional $2500-$4200 on a car. __________________ ig: 0verrev
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SCA1 Private First Class 4 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 911 coming soon... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Moving quickly Just checked out Owner's Circle and I'm now scheduled for production and have a VIN number. My CA told me that once there is a firm customer order on a car they try to move those up in the production line whenever possible.
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04-11-2008, 01:13 PM	#153
InsaneSkippy Lieutenant Colonel 79 Rep 1,597 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (1)	Still no email from my CA. If I don't have an email when I wake up tomorrow I think I'll just call in to cancel my order and go ahead with this second dealership. I need to get the ED going and if I have to place a new order I'll have to do it ASAP. I'm wondering if I can just have the second dealer take over my current order? This way I wouldn't have to start the process from scratch, and the first dealership wouldn't have to waste their allocation on my car. __________________
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04-11-2008, 04:22 PM	#154
SCA1 Private First Class 4 Rep 185 Posts Drives: 911 coming soon... Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: SF Bay Area iTrader: (0)	Skippy Stick with the CA that gave you an order number! He came through for you. Everything else is just talk. And I'd be concerned that you could end up losing out on your order entirely if you try to get it transferred. Just my $.02 ....
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