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      11-04-2009, 10:17 AM   #23
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im considering this for my next car...we'll see how it develops
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      11-04-2009, 10:18 AM   #24
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I've already opened a savings account for this car!
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      11-04-2009, 10:19 AM   #25
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My current lease will be up in 3 years. I'm sure this car will get serious consideration from me if it's available then.
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      11-04-2009, 10:31 AM   #26
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Good to hear. If they have a new chief of the M section, he might just decide to throw together a wide body better version of our car and call it the 135M. To make a complete M conversion of our cars would be difficult to make have much better performance and not out perform the M3 which they would not want to do.
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      11-04-2009, 10:33 AM   #27
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The benchmark better be higher than an Audi S3... they already cover that with a 135i.
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      11-04-2009, 10:37 AM   #28
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Is there a car out there with 4cylinder and turbo(s) beyond 300 hp 300 tq ? if they make it less powerful, it would be a pointless car. Unless this engine will have super big displacement...
WRX STi is closest.
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      11-04-2009, 11:28 AM   #29
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Maybe with a 4-cyl turbo like the E30 m3? That would be a great way to lighten up the car and would be great to toss around.
na you would miss the grunt a 6 gives
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      11-04-2009, 11:31 AM   #30
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I am assuming that, like all other BMWs sold in the UK and the Euro zone, the car will cost less here than the currency equivalent to the prices there? If no, I don't see anyone paying £32,000 or $52,660 for a 1 series before options. The idea's great though.
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      11-04-2009, 11:36 AM   #31
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      11-04-2009, 11:49 AM   #32
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My guess will be the 135M
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      11-04-2009, 12:02 PM   #33
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Would love to see a supercar bearing the name M1 but would love to have an enhanced 1 series as well!!!
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      11-04-2009, 12:04 PM   #34
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      11-04-2009, 12:05 PM   #35
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Just pretty much confirmed the ///m 1 series by BMW head Dr. Kay Segler in an interview at the m3 gts introduction.

"This is why a product below the BMW M3 more important to me than a super sports car which is only accessible to a few. As I have already mentioned in other interviews, we are currently looking closely at the options in this area. I hope to be able to tell you more the next time we speak."

https://www.m-power.com/_open/b/edit...lang=en&x=2021
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      11-04-2009, 12:11 PM   #36
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imo, they are going to build a brand that will last with the 1M, so the names I would expect to see are //M1 or //M Coupe. The only people that care about the M1 name previously being tied to a one off supercar are the hardcore enthusiasts. Outside of that, no one cares. I would anticipate that //M1 will be the "new" name. A new //M supercar will have a new moniker to match its tier in the brand structure.
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      11-04-2009, 12:16 PM   #37
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The time frame is a lot longer than I want to wait. Though, I can just buy a beater for now. The new M 1 is slated for the same price point as the E46M3 with 135i around 36-37 base the new M car will be around 43-44 (just few ground below the old M3) and will be easily 50k out the door, tax, title and license.

I am really curious on the weight of the vehicle. Probably a pipe dream to consider anything under 3000lb, the real weight will be closer to 3200-3300 lbs or 200 lbs less than current 135i

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      11-04-2009, 12:17 PM   #38
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I dont care what the hell they call it, so long as its not a 1er SS.

Heres what I predict/ really really hope for. I want it to have the same engine as the M3, just smaller, lighter, and more agressive in every way.

I feel like the M3 has hit its midlife crisis. Its gotten bloated and way too cushy. The people that typically buy the current M3 are midagged somethings that just want be pampered as they drive fast (or they are just cocks).

Make the 1er in the spirit of the original M3, which was a car only built so that BMW could race with it.

Make it harsh, agressive, and most importantly, small.
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Does anyone forsee some tank jokes with the M1 moniker?
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Does anyone forsee some tank jokes with the M1 moniker?
Only if BMW dials so much understeer into the car that an Abrams can outturn it.
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      11-04-2009, 12:31 PM   #41
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The current 135 already has a 300bhp TT straight six, M suspension and six pot Brembo calipers with large rotors(better than a M3 already). With a Dinan Stage II a stock 135i will produce well over the expected 330bhp the future car is expected to make. Sounds like you're going to get a very expensive M package with very little actual performance increases.
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      11-04-2009, 12:33 PM   #42
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I dont care what the hell they call it, so long as its not a 1er SS.

Heres what I predict/ really really hope for. I want it to have the same engine as the M3, just smaller, lighter, and more agressive in every way.

I feel like the M3 has hit its midlife crisis. Its gotten bloated and way too cushy. The people that typically buy the current M3 are midagged somethings that just want be pampered as they drive fast (or they are just cocks).

Make the 1er in the spirit of the original M3, which was a car only built so that BMW could race with it.

Make it harsh, agressive, and most importantly, small.
Oh, I think there will still be a supersports variant of the current 1er. Those in the know says its the "Grand Finale."
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      11-04-2009, 12:43 PM   #43
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I would be interested to see how they can market a already smaller/lighter coupe (135), and then make it quicker and maybe more track ready, and run it up with the current M3.

Volkswagen had this problem a while ago with their GTI's; there was a 1.8 turbo and a small NA 6cyl. Very close in almost every way - was a big price difference for the vr6 engine. But with a chip, the 1.8t was faster. Hope this wont hurt the M3 sales. But def a "M1" would be kick ass!
Agreed. I had a A3 with the 3.2 and it was an expensive dog. A chipped 2.0t was better in every way.
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      11-04-2009, 12:45 PM   #44
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I think //M1 is the way to go. That will make it fly off the lots. Anything else seems shifty. Why not have an M8 or MX (as in 10) for the super car?
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