SuperSprint Header Install/Review

Blacksport · 12-13-2013, 11:41 AM

There's nothing like advice from someone who's already done it...

Great point; how do you know if something else popped up if the CEL is already on...

Thanks very much and BTW, great write-ups on both the manifold and header install...

TheSt|G · 12-13-2013, 11:51 AM

Yup, not a problem.

It is amusing how many lurkers out there have SS headers and Evolve tuning now. I get 3-5 PMs a week from people buying them who never post.

Blacksport · 12-13-2013, 12:12 PM

"Lurkers"? LOL, love that....these guys buying the headers and EV flash, do they ask you about the DISA manifold?

pj.rodriguez · 12-13-2013, 12:24 PM

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Yup, not a problem.

It is amusing how many lurkers out there have SS headers and Evolve tuning now. I get 3-5 PMs a week from people buying them who never post.

lol. Way to go St|g. You're the one that took the leap of faith and was successful, so now you're the pioneer in these mods! You should get some commission, you know what I mean?

TheSt|G · 12-13-2013, 03:40 PM

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"Lurkers"? LOL, love that....these guys buying the headers and EV flash, do they ask you about the DISA manifold?

Yup. All the major mods I've written about, and the N52 1er in general. I was just highlighting how many are doing these mods that isn't apparent on the surface of looking at the forums.

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lol. Way to go St|g. You're the one that took the leap of faith and was successful, so now you're the pioneer in these mods! You should get some commission, you know what I mean?

I just want people to people to have nice things, and support the businesses that take the risk to make it possible. This Walmart economy we live in where people value having a bunch of things instead of a few nice things aggravates me to no end. Everything has become about the numbers instead of the experience.

Iron Man · 12-13-2013, 05:04 PM

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This Walmart economy we live in where people value having a bunch of things instead of a few nice things aggravates me to no end. Everything has become about the numbers instead of the experience.

+1. Amen.

MarkkyyMan · 12-14-2013, 01:40 AM

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STIG, Markky,

Gonna do the DISA manifold and headers....2 questions;

Is Turner's flash okay, or is Evolve's better? I don't care if I have to send Turner the computer...

Both Turner and BavAuto say you have to live with the CEL when you do the headers...what did you guys do, or are you just living with it?

From what I've read and learned so far:

-Evolve is the only one who turns down 02's and does not turn them off, if you would magically get a CEL with their tune you send them a screen shot after you've diagnosed the code and they fix it.

-Evolve has lots more experience with the DISA manifold and adjusting the valves to get the most power.

-Evolve uses a Siemens tool, same brand as our ECU. Seems like they are just much more detailed in their tunes and analysis.

Shipping any type of electronics you have to use an anti static bag, pray it doesn't get slammed around, or lost.

MarkkyyMan · 01-08-2014, 06:03 PM

MarkkyyMan · 01-08-2014, 06:05 PM

First video with my galaxy note 3 lol next time it will be tilted the correct way. :P

andrey_gta · 01-08-2014, 06:52 PM

Soounds delicious.
How much louder is it in real life? Will neigbours get a new alarm clock? PE is more open and I always cringed at e90 videos with headers + e90 PE( which deletes resonator i think) + maybe no secondaries

631twentyeighteye · 01-08-2014, 06:53 PM

What exhaust are you running? Mine is loud as hell at cold start with 135 axleback and resonator delete with the flap closed. Flap open it's even stupider. I love the sound but its looooudddd.

andrey_gta · 01-08-2014, 06:55 PM

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What exhaust are you running? Mine is loud as hell at cold start with 135 axleback and resonator delete with the flap closed. Flap open it's even stupider. I love the sound but its looooudddd.

Marky's youtube sais PE + SS headers

631twentyeighteye · 01-08-2014, 06:58 PM

Ah okay my mistake, i didnt actually read the subscription haha. I'd want to hear some driving around video's if possible, i wanna know what mine would sound like if i weld the resonator back in place. I like the raspy note but want some volume gone.

MarkkyyMan · 01-08-2014, 09:39 PM

I'll have some better videos up soon, just took that one to test out the video on my new phone. It's a little louder in person, but not much. Still has resonators and 200 Cel cats in the mid pipe. That was like a 10 degree cold start lol Midwest has been cold the last few days.

TheSt|G · 01-09-2014, 06:49 AM

They really don't add that much volume. So long as you have the res and a quiet muffler I think people wouldn't know you are off stock.

I had a guy come check out my setup a couple weeks ago and it was quieter than his 330i with just a Dinan muffler.

pj.rodriguez · 01-09-2014, 06:57 AM

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They really don't add that much volume. So long as you have the res and a quiet muffler I think people wouldn't know you are off stock.

I had a guy come check out my setup a couple weeks ago and it was quieter than his 330i with just a Dinan muffler.

Along with your powerloop? It was still quieter?!

TheSt|G · 01-09-2014, 08:30 AM

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Along with your powerloop? It was still quieter?!

Yup.

Keep in mind that the Powerloop is TUV approved exhaust for street use. There are NVH restrictions that it has to adhere to to get that rating. Your tastes may differ, but for a DD that is exactly what I wanted.

pj.rodriguez · 01-09-2014, 08:55 AM

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Along with your powerloop? It was still quieter?!

Yup.

Keep in mind that the Powerloop is TUV approved exhaust for street use. There are NVH restrictions that it has to adhere to to get that rating. Your tastes may differ, but for a DD that is exactly what I wanted.

Awesome. I've yet to install my PE. we'll see where that takes me. I personally don't like loud. I like tone.

MarkkyyMan · 01-09-2014, 03:39 PM

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Awesome. I've yet to install my PE. we'll see where that takes me. I personally don't like loud. I like tone.

It's tame until you get over about 3,500 RPM. Then it opens up, very similar to just having the performance exhaust. After 3500 you start to get the straight 6 howl. It is not obnoxious though in my opinion.

andrey_gta · 01-09-2014, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSt|G

Keep in mind that the Powerloop is TUV approved exhaust for street use.

Any Decibel ratings? Under 90 or 80?

TheSt|G · 01-09-2014, 04:29 PM

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Any Decibel ratings? Under 90 or 80?

Shrug?

I still need to make a recording, found my mic.

Fume · 01-12-2014, 05:26 PM

It seems like these headers don't have cats on them like the stock headers. Does the stock system have another set of cats in the mid pipes?

Also, does anyone know if Evolve can remove the CEL on a N51 engine? It seems to me it's worth waiting to see the results of their experiments with tuning the N51 (mentioned in another thread) before attempting to do this mod, am I right? Especially if I need to get a tune to remove the CEL.

12-13-2013, 11:41 AM	#133
Blacksport Second Lieutenant 54 Rep 246 Posts Drives: 2013 128i Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Ft Lauderdale iTrader: (0)	There's nothing like advice from someone who's already done it... Great point; how do you know if something else popped up if the CEL is already on... Thanks very much and BTW, great write-ups on both the manifold and header install... __________________ '13 128i 6sp, '19 Cherokee Ltd 3.2, '17 Ducati SuperSport S *Gone But Not Forgotten:* 74 Z28, 77 Datsun 280Z (1st 5sp in US), 92 Nissan 300ZTT, 94 MB SL600 V12, 01 M Roadster, 66 Yamaha TwinJet 100, 70 Suzuki X6 Hustler *Race:* GP/FP Spitfire SCCA, Merlyn FF SCCA, Mazda RX7 IMSA GTU, Yamaha FZR 400 AMA.
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12-13-2013, 11:51 AM	#134
TheSt\|G Resident Tamed Racing Driver 298 Rep 4,697 Posts Drives: 911, 130is, E39 M5, E36 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Outside Philly iTrader: (2)	Yup, not a problem. It is amusing how many lurkers out there have SS headers and Evolve tuning now. I get 3-5 PMs a week from people buying them who never post.
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12-13-2013, 12:12 PM	#135
Blacksport Second Lieutenant 54 Rep 246 Posts Drives: 2013 128i Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Ft Lauderdale iTrader: (0)	"Lurkers"? LOL, love that....these guys buying the headers and EV flash, do they ask you about the DISA manifold? __________________ '13 128i 6sp, '19 Cherokee Ltd 3.2, '17 Ducati SuperSport S *Gone But Not Forgotten:* 74 Z28, 77 Datsun 280Z (1st 5sp in US), 92 Nissan 300ZTT, 94 MB SL600 V12, 01 M Roadster, 66 Yamaha TwinJet 100, 70 Suzuki X6 Hustler *Race:* GP/FP Spitfire SCCA, Merlyn FF SCCA, Mazda RX7 IMSA GTU, Yamaha FZR 400 AMA.
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01-08-2014, 06:03 PM	#140
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MarkkyyMan Captain 38 Rep 701 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 128i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indiana, U.S. iTrader: (0)	First video with my galaxy note 3 lol next time it will be tilted the correct way. :P
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01-08-2014, 06:52 PM	#142
andrey_gta Brigadier General 298 Rep 4,040 Posts Drives: 130i coupé ;) Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Bimmerpost iTrader: (1) Garage List 2008 BMW 128i [10.00]	Soounds delicious. How much louder is it in real life? Will neigbours get a new alarm clock? PE is more open and I always cringed at e90 videos with headers + e90 PE( which deletes resonator i think) + maybe no secondaries __________________ 128i Sport 6MT converted to Euro 130i spec, 3.73 diff, tuned by evolve ~220 whp 207 wtq(ft-lb) SAE In-progress: //M front arm, M3 rack, e36M lip Wishlist: Coils, n55 mnts, headers, LSD, e60 finn diff "The 1-series is the last car that BMW engineered before the Germans, as a car-making culture, fell out of love with driving." - R&T 2013 135is
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01-08-2014, 06:53 PM	#143
631twentyeighteye Colonel 198 Rep 2,239 Posts Drives: 08 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long island iTrader: (7)	What exhaust are you running? Mine is loud as hell at cold start with 135 axleback and resonator delete with the flap closed. Flap open it's even stupider. I love the sound but its looooudddd. __________________ 08 e93 335i MT
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01-08-2014, 06:58 PM	#145
631twentyeighteye Colonel 198 Rep 2,239 Posts Drives: 08 335i Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Long island iTrader: (7)	Ah okay my mistake, i didnt actually read the subscription haha. I'd want to hear some driving around video's if possible, i wanna know what mine would sound like if i weld the resonator back in place. I like the raspy note but want some volume gone. __________________ 08 e93 335i MT
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01-08-2014, 09:39 PM	#146
MarkkyyMan Captain 38 Rep 701 Posts Drives: 2010 BMW 128i Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indiana, U.S. iTrader: (0)	I'll have some better videos up soon, just took that one to test out the video on my new phone. It's a little louder in person, but not much. Still has resonators and 200 Cel cats in the mid pipe. That was like a 10 degree cold start lol Midwest has been cold the last few days.
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01-09-2014, 06:49 AM	#147
TheSt\|G Resident Tamed Racing Driver 298 Rep 4,697 Posts Drives: 911, 130is, E39 M5, E36 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Outside Philly iTrader: (2)	They really don't add that much volume. So long as you have the res and a quiet muffler I think people wouldn't know you are off stock. I had a guy come check out my setup a couple weeks ago and it was quieter than his 330i with just a Dinan muffler.
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01-12-2014, 05:26 PM	#154
Fume First Lieutenant 52 Rep 374 Posts Drives: '19 Porsche 718 Cayman GTS Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Seattle iTrader: (1)	It seems like these headers don't have cats on them like the stock headers. Does the stock system have another set of cats in the mid pipes? Also, does anyone know if Evolve can remove the CEL on a N51 engine? It seems to me it's worth waiting to see the results of their experiments with tuning the N51 (mentioned in another thread) before attempting to do this mod, am I right? Especially if I need to get a tune to remove the CEL.
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