Sways bar

vitig · 08-25-2009, 04:52 AM

Hello from spain.

I have a question about it:

For a good choice,i will take front sway bar or i will take also rear sway?.

My car has M original chassis and tyres whitout runflat.

Citizen Z · 08-25-2009, 06:54 AM

If you can afford it, go for the BMW Performance Suspension (which is different from the Sport package). Reviews indicate it tightens the car up considerably. By itself a front sway will help a little, but better front tires are a more comprehensive solution than just a sway bar.

vitig · 08-25-2009, 10:16 AM

I have to mount two tyres 225/40/18 to front and other two 255/35/18 to rear but i think to put the sway bar for more suport in the car.

The perfomance suspension is very expensive and is not legal in spain,for it i will put kw or bilstein coilovers if the car need it .But before it,i like to mount the sway bar that is less showy for the oficial service if is neccesary use the waranty.

vitig · 08-27-2009, 03:50 AM

any experiences?

Citizen Z · 08-27-2009, 05:09 AM

I don't think many people have added a rear sway bar due to the difficulty. The front is very easy to do, but not the back.

Luvmybmw · 08-27-2009, 07:13 AM

Just ordered the Hotchkis Front Sway Bar...They said it would take 2 to 4 weeks.

My135 · 08-27-2009, 09:11 AM

Try the front frist before you decided on the rear. It is cheap and easy to do.

vitig · 08-27-2009, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by My135

Try the front frist before you decided on the rear. It is cheap and easy to do.

Yes but the shipping for the rear is 150$ and for the two 200$.This is the problem to leave in spain that here don´t have good mod in ours hand.

Thanks to help.

vitig · 09-10-2009, 04:37 AM

I'm still in doubt. I already have without rft tires and is more evident now rolling.

I wanted to hear from someone who has had the same problem which was his choice and that result has had.

I get the impression that the cushions are hard enough, maybe the solution would be the front bar and springs. I hope your experience can help me

mangotangoe · 09-10-2009, 09:01 AM

Why not buy the front and rear OEM M3 sway bars from the dealer. What you save on shipping, pays for the install. Front is easily installed with a minimum of tools. My rear bar was installed on a lift, in under an hour.

vitig · 09-10-2009, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangotangoe

Why not buy the front and rear OEM M3 sway bars from the dealer. What you save on shipping, pays for the install. Front is easily installed with a minimum of tools. My rear bar was installed on a lift, in under an hour.

yes, I was thinking that way, buy the oem m3 in my dealer, maybe first front and before if is necesary the rear.

¿Does this the job like the hotchkins bar?

mangotangoe · 09-10-2009, 10:34 AM

Do both bars to retain a "closer" to neutral balance. Had my front bar on a few days prior to having the rear one installed. While I did not have an opportunity to really test the car (track), it felt odd. Could feel the rear rolling thru even slow corners. After both installed, car feels really planted with less roll and far more secure.

vitig · 09-10-2009, 10:43 AM

is probably that finally instaled the pair of bars,but i begin it whit front that i can make it.

the bar is the reference of m3 e92, is ok?. is neccesary any other element to insatll it?.

Evan135 · 09-11-2009, 11:02 PM

Unfortunately I am on the road. When I get back Sunday I can post the part #'s or you can search to find them. The hardest bar to change, the rear is the one that needs the most help. The 12mm rear bar the 135/128 comes with is safe from BMW's point of view but with the smaller front track and staggered tires makes the car push or understeer. The rear M3 bar,20mm hollow and stiffer bushings and mounts are a great choice. Another choice is the 15mm rear bar off the European 335 M Sport suspension. They use it with the factory front bar you already have. The easiest would be the 15 mm I just mentioned with your existing front bar. The upgrade from that would be the 26.5mm front and 20mm rear fron the E90 M3 coupe/sedan. The convertible m3 is heavier and uses even larger sway bars. I would not recommend them with the stock springs/struts though. I have not tried them but from my 30 years of doing suspension mods too large of sway bars with a softer suspension will not have enough control, damping, and the car kind of rocks off the too stiff bars.

Try the 15mm M Sport rear or the M3 bars. I have the stock springs and struts and I have the M3 coupe/sedan bars and really like them. I hope this helps.
and use the M3 coupe/sedan bars. I hope this helps.

vitig · 09-12-2009, 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan135

Unfortunately I am on the road. When I get back Sunday I can post the part #'s or you can search to find them. The hardest bar to change, the rear is the one that needs the most help. The 12mm rear bar the 135/128 comes with is safe from BMW's point of view but with the smaller front track and staggered tires makes the car push or understeer. The rear M3 bar,20mm hollow and stiffer bushings and mounts are a great choice. Another choice is the 15mm rear bar off the European 335 M Sport suspension. They use it with the factory front bar you already have. The easiest would be the 15 mm I just mentioned with your existing front bar. The upgrade from that would be the 26.5mm front and 20mm rear fron the E90 M3 coupe/sedan. The convertible m3 is heavier and uses even larger sway bars. I would not recommend them with the stock springs/struts though. I have not tried them but from my 30 years of doing suspension mods too large of sway bars with a softer suspension will not have enough control, damping, and the car kind of rocks off the too stiff bars.

Try the 15mm M Sport rear or the M3 bars. I have the stock springs and struts and I have the M3 coupe/sedan bars and really like them. I hope this helps.
and use the M3 coupe/sedan bars. I hope this helps.

Very much thanks, i hope it. The m3 bars is my salvation to avoid the balancing.

SlickShift · 09-12-2009, 11:11 AM

Does anyone know the part# for the euro M-sport rear bar? I looked on RealOEM and couldn't find it.

vitig · 09-17-2009, 10:13 AM

I think that is this:

31352283515 front bar m3 sedan/coupe

I don´t be if is necessary the rubbers and the soport also.

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vitig Private First Class 4 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: España iTrader: (0)	I have to mount two tyres 225/40/18 to front and other two 255/35/18 to rear but i think to put the sway bar for more suport in the car. The perfomance suspension is very expensive and is not legal in spain,for it i will put kw or bilstein coilovers if the car need it .But before it,i like to mount the sway bar that is less showy for the oficial service if is neccesary use the waranty.
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vitig Private First Class 4 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: España iTrader: (0)	any experiences? __________________ 135ijb3, h & r filter, SSK, CDV,clutch stop, klracing fmic,seccond catted ,225-255 michelin ps3, E93F-E92R swaybars.M3 parts front.M3 tension rear.Plates mod(F-2,0º R-1,5º).Bilstein + stock springs.Ps rotors.Subframe bushings.Weichers fstruut.Finally mods sdiff and raceland dp.
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Citizen Z Alpine Master 111 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: '08 135i AW Sport Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas iTrader: (1)	I don't think many people have added a rear sway bar due to the difficulty. The front is very easy to do, but not the back. __________________ Alpine White with Taupe Leather 135i, Sports Package, Heated Seats, Comfort Access, iPod Adapter Fastness: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252727
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My135 Lieutenant Colonel 86 Rep 1,609 Posts Drives: Join Date: Mar 2008 iTrader: (0)	Try the front frist before you decided on the rear. It is cheap and easy to do. __________________ 7/08 135 Coupe, Crimson Red, 6 SP, Sport, Taupe Lette/Aluminum. Performance Mods: JB4 on Map 5, BMS DP Fix V3, Injen polished intake, AR Catless DP, Maddad resonated mid-pipes, aFe exhaust polished tips, ST Suspension Coil Over and Hotchkis front sway bar. Others: BMS OCC, BT Scanner, Mud Flap. Next Mods: AA Front Strut Brace.
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vitig Private First Class 4 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: España iTrader: (0)	I'm still in doubt. I already have without rft tires and is more evident now rolling. I wanted to hear from someone who has had the same problem which was his choice and that result has had. I get the impression that the cushions are hard enough, maybe the solution would be the front bar and springs. I hope your experience can help me __________________ 135ijb3, h & r filter, SSK, CDV,clutch stop, klracing fmic,seccond catted ,225-255 michelin ps3, E93F-E92R swaybars.M3 parts front.M3 tension rear.Plates mod(F-2,0º R-1,5º).Bilstein + stock springs.Ps rotors.Subframe bushings.Weichers fstruut.Finally mods sdiff and raceland dp.
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mangotangoe Private First Class 14 Rep 123 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Why not buy the front and rear OEM M3 sway bars from the dealer. What you save on shipping, pays for the install. Front is easily installed with a minimum of tools. My rear bar was installed on a lift, in under an hour.
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mangotangoe Private First Class 14 Rep 123 Posts Drives: 1M Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Canada iTrader: (2)	Do both bars to retain a "closer" to neutral balance. Had my front bar on a few days prior to having the rear one installed. While I did not have an opportunity to really test the car (track), it felt odd. Could feel the rear rolling thru even slow corners. After both installed, car feels really planted with less roll and far more secure.
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vitig Private First Class 4 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: España iTrader: (0)	is probably that finally instaled the pair of bars,but i begin it whit front that i can make it. the bar is the reference of m3 e92, is ok?. is neccesary any other element to insatll it?. __________________ 135ijb3, h & r filter, SSK, CDV,clutch stop, klracing fmic,seccond catted ,225-255 michelin ps3, E93F-E92R swaybars.M3 parts front.M3 tension rear.Plates mod(F-2,0º R-1,5º).Bilstein + stock springs.Ps rotors.Subframe bushings.Weichers fstruut.Finally mods sdiff and raceland dp.
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Evan135 Private First Class 6 Rep 132 Posts Drives: My wife Crazy Join Date: May 2009 Location: Orlando FL iTrader: (1)	Unfortunately I am on the road. When I get back Sunday I can post the part #'s or you can search to find them. The hardest bar to change, the rear is the one that needs the most help. The 12mm rear bar the 135/128 comes with is safe from BMW's point of view but with the smaller front track and staggered tires makes the car push or understeer. The rear M3 bar,20mm hollow and stiffer bushings and mounts are a great choice. Another choice is the 15mm rear bar off the European 335 M Sport suspension. They use it with the factory front bar you already have. The easiest would be the 15 mm I just mentioned with your existing front bar. The upgrade from that would be the 26.5mm front and 20mm rear fron the E90 M3 coupe/sedan. The convertible m3 is heavier and uses even larger sway bars. I would not recommend them with the stock springs/struts though. I have not tried them but from my 30 years of doing suspension mods too large of sway bars with a softer suspension will not have enough control, damping, and the car kind of rocks off the too stiff bars. Try the 15mm M Sport rear or the M3 bars. I have the stock springs and struts and I have the M3 coupe/sedan bars and really like them. I hope this helps. and use the M3 coupe/sedan bars. I hope this helps.
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vitig Private First Class 4 Rep 189 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: España iTrader: (0)	I think that is this: 31352283515 front bar m3 sedan/coupe I don´t be if is necessary the rubbers and the soport also. __________________ 135ijb3, h & r filter, SSK, CDV,clutch stop, klracing fmic,seccond catted ,225-255 michelin ps3, E93F-E92R swaybars.M3 parts front.M3 tension rear.Plates mod(F-2,0º R-1,5º).Bilstein + stock springs.Ps rotors.Subframe bushings.Weichers fstruut.Finally mods sdiff and raceland dp.
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