Lawyer screen in German

timmerweb · 11-28-2005, 01:41 PM

Just curious really, I just wanna know if this is only happening to me (surely not)...

Do other people sometimes get the iDrive's lawyer screen (the legalize you have to say 'Accept' do on startup) in German when you turn on the car? This has happened to me maybe 4 times in total since I got the car in mid-September. So far I can't think of any particular pattern to cause it. I must have started the car 100 times since I've gotten it so its obviously quite a rare event. Once I press 'Accept' everything else is in English from thereon in.

On another language related note, I notice sometimes streets in my city are displayed in French, which on the screen at the same times others are in English. i.e. some will show as "Rue" while others show as "Street".

-Tim

11-28-2005, 01:46 PM

No, always in English.

txusa03 · 11-28-2005, 02:45 PM

i don't have idrive but it sound like it would bug the heck out of me. i wonder if they built a hybrid idrive that can display text in eng and french and german.

Dante · 11-28-2005, 03:30 PM

That is really strange, because we dont have this lawyer screen at all in germany. I wonder why it exist in german

gdrym · 11-28-2005, 09:20 PM

Happened to me once. I hit accept and it never came back.
Always in english after that.

David328M-Sport · 11-28-2005, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CMD

No, always in English.

Same for me.

visor · 11-28-2005, 10:36 PM

did this happen when you used the 2nd key fob?
if so, then you have to select your language preference.
if not, then it's one of those german electronic gremlins!

lbernielu · 11-28-2005, 10:42 PM

The E90 I have gives one the choice of English, French or Spanish for the navigation person's voice. I put my speaker on French, as I want to refamilarize with the language, and she has a lovely accent.

jpsquared · 11-28-2005, 10:52 PM

It happened to me just 2 days ago.. It flashed in German for just a sec and then back to English. It was my regular key and nothing was different except it was around 30 degrees outside... that damned snowflake!

AznBeemer23 · 11-29-2005, 12:19 AM

this has happpened to me several times.......when I first got my car. I don't know the cause if it though

Dante · 11-29-2005, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by lbernielu

The E90 I have gives one the choice of English, French or Spanish for the navigation person's voice. I put my speaker on French, as I want to refamilarize with the language, and she has a lovely accent.

Then you might wanna take a look at this thread

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8307

Sorry,

Steply · 11-29-2005, 05:37 PM

just happened to me over the weekend... only happened for a few seconds, then switched to english before I hit accept... Never happened before that (and I've had the car for about 6 months).

11-29-2005, 06:48 PM

I knew right away what you meant when I read the words "lawyer screen" in this thread's title. However, “disclaimer screen" would be more appropriate. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, your English grammar teacher or your Mom. I'm just trying to help.

Compos Mentis · 11-29-2005, 07:30 PM

How can you get rid of it completely? Probably can't, I guess. Thank you, ambulance chasers. CM.

Costa · 11-29-2005, 09:19 PM

If it's happening intermittently on starup then my guess is you have a hardware fault - probably part of your i-Drive computer's memory. To elaborate my reasoning, if a part of memory is not working correctly (say for example the location where the language look-up-table is stored), software is probably referencing data from the incorrect memory location. This is often why you see programs just crash for no apparent reason (other than a software bug ofcourse).

Remember that software is deterministic - it does not fatigue. If the S/W was programmed to do something one way, it will always do it that same way every single time - unless something else interferes. Hardware on the other hand does fatigue, and can lead to random system behaviour. The only other thing that might be the cause is another piece of rogue software or race condition ... either way I'd get it checked out.

JetaTek · 11-30-2005, 06:51 PM

I have the same problem. I'd say I get the German warning message about once every 3 or 4 weeks. Mine doesn't change to English after a few seconds, but once I click accept, the rest of my iDrive menu is in English. I've never had it happen more than once in a 3 week period, but it's definitely a recurring issue with my E90. I e-mailed my dealer about it, and he said he knew of no "fix" for the problem yet.

Compos Mentis · 12-01-2005, 06:13 PM

With the amount of people that see the problem, I doubt it's a hardware problem. Not everyone is going to have a memory bit stuck that directs execution to the same place. It's probably a bug that displays the lawyer screen before checking what language to use, but it really could be any sort of software coding error. Just hope the same person didn't write the fly-by-wire or ABS code.

CM

visor · 12-01-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Compos Mentis

Just hope the same person didn't write the fly-by-wire or ABS code.

CM

Or worse yet, the code to control valvetronic.

Compos Mentis · 12-01-2005, 06:42 PM

Or steering. "Left- No! Right!". Yipes.

11-28-2005, 01:41 PM	#1
timmerweb Private 4 Rep 74 Posts Drives: Red 325i prem/sport/nav/leathr Join Date: May 2005 Location: Ottawa, Canada iTrader: (0)	Lawyer screen in German Just curious really, I just wanna know if this is only happening to me (surely not)... Do other people sometimes get the iDrive's lawyer screen (the legalize you have to say 'Accept' do on startup) in German when you turn on the car? This has happened to me maybe 4 times in total since I got the car in mid-September. So far I can't think of any particular pattern to cause it. I must have started the car 100 times since I've gotten it so its obviously quite a rare event. Once I press 'Accept' everything else is in English from thereon in. On another language related note, I notice sometimes streets in my city are displayed in French, which on the screen at the same times others are in English. i.e. some will show as "Rue" while others show as "Street". -Tim
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11-28-2005, 01:46 PM	#2
CMD Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	No, always in English.
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txusa03 Major General 548 Rep 6,563 Posts Drives: TS330iPPSP6MT Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Planet Earth iTrader: (3)	i don't have idrive but it sound like it would bug the heck out of me. i wonder if they built a hybrid idrive that can display text in eng and french and german.
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11-28-2005, 09:20 PM	#5
gdrym New Member 1 Rep 10 Posts Drives: E90 330 Join Date: May 2005 Location: Texas iTrader: (0)	Happened to me once. I hit accept and it never came back. Always in english after that.
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11-28-2005, 10:36 PM	#7
visor BMW, can I have some LSD please? 88 Rep 1,591 Posts Drives: 2017 F30 340i xDrive Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Vancouver, Canada iTrader: (0)	did this happen when you used the 2nd key fob? if so, then you have to select your language preference. if not, then it's one of those german electronic gremlins! __________________ 2006 330i \| TiAg \| Black \| Al \| 6MT \| Sports Package \| Logic 7 retired 2008 335i \| AW \| Black \| Al \| 6MT \| Sports Package \| Logic 7 retired 2013 328xi \| Red \| Gray \| Al \| 8AT \| Sports Line \| Premium \| Executive \| Heat Pkg retired 2017 340i xDrive \| Estoril \| Black \| Al \| 8AT \| M Package
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11-28-2005, 10:42 PM	#8
lbernielu Private 0 Rep 71 Posts Drives: 2006 330i, sp, Bilstein, H&R Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Sacramento iTrader: (0)	Avocat Screen The E90 I have gives one the choice of English, French or Spanish for the navigation person's voice. I put my speaker on French, as I want to refamilarize with the language, and she has a lovely accent.
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jpsquared Another transplanted NY'er 1 Rep 34 Posts Drives: '06 330i 6MT TiAg Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NJ iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	It happened to me just 2 days ago.. It flashed in German for just a sec and then back to English. It was my regular key and nothing was different except it was around 30 degrees outside... that damned snowflake!
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Steply Enlisted Member 8 Rep 45 Posts Drives: 330i Graphite Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Francisco iTrader: (0)	just happened to me over the weekend... only happened for a few seconds, then switched to english before I hit accept... Never happened before that (and I've had the car for about 6 months).
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11-29-2005, 06:48 PM	#13
CMD Guest 0 Rep n/a Posts Drives:	I knew right away what you meant when I read the words "lawyer screen" in this thread's title. However, “disclaimer screen" would be more appropriate. I'm not trying to be a smart-ass, your English grammar teacher or your Mom. I'm just trying to help.
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11-29-2005, 07:30 PM	#14
Compos Mentis Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 230 Posts Drives: Arctic 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	How can you get rid of it completely? Probably can't, I guess. Thank you, ambulance chasers. CM. __________________ *Compos Mentis* ----------------- 2006 330xi Arctic, black leather, aluminum. 18000 miles... Last edited by Compos Mentis; 11-30-2005 at 07:11 AM..
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11-29-2005, 09:19 PM	#15
Costa Second Lieutenant 17 Rep 203 Posts Drives: E90 325i Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Australia iTrader: (0)	If it's happening intermittently on starup then my guess is you have a hardware fault - probably part of your i-Drive computer's memory. To elaborate my reasoning, if a part of memory is not working correctly (say for example the location where the language look-up-table is stored), software is probably referencing data from the incorrect memory location. This is often why you see programs just crash for no apparent reason (other than a software bug ofcourse). Remember that software is deterministic - it does not fatigue. If the S/W was programmed to do something one way, it will always do it that same way every single time - unless something else interferes. Hardware on the other hand does fatigue, and can lead to random system behaviour. The only other thing that might be the cause is another piece of rogue software or race condition ... either way I'd get it checked out. __________________ 325i auto \| Saph Blk \| PDC \| Sunroof \| Prof Nav \| BiXenon \| SS \| Logic7
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JetaTek Crescent City Evangelist 2 Rep 8 Posts Drives: 2006 SG 325i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The Woodlands, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 Volkswagen Bee ... [1.50] 2006 BMW 325i [0.00]	I have the same problem. I'd say I get the German warning message about once every 3 or 4 weeks. Mine doesn't change to English after a few seconds, but once I click accept, the rest of my iDrive menu is in English. I've never had it happen more than once in a 3 week period, but it's definitely a recurring issue with my E90. I e-mailed my dealer about it, and he said he knew of no "fix" for the problem yet.
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12-01-2005, 06:13 PM	#17
Compos Mentis Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 230 Posts Drives: Arctic 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	With the amount of people that see the problem, I doubt it's a hardware problem. Not everyone is going to have a memory bit stuck that directs execution to the same place. It's probably a bug that displays the lawyer screen before checking what language to use, but it really could be any sort of software coding error. Just hope the same person didn't write the fly-by-wire or ABS code. CM __________________ *Compos Mentis* ----------------- 2006 330xi Arctic, black leather, aluminum. 18000 miles...
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Compos Mentis Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 230 Posts Drives: Arctic 330xi Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Seattle iTrader: (0)	Or steering. "Left- No! Right!". Yipes. __________________ *Compos Mentis* ----------------- 2006 330xi Arctic, black leather, aluminum. 18000 miles...
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