BMW Performance Turbo Upgrade - It's Official!

[Heinzftw]

Originally Posted by Evolved

Thread title is misleading.

2nd that. When I first read the post title I was thinking new bigger turbos you can order from the factory.

[Si-M240i]

Do you think this will this ever be available in the UK?

[135i_TT]

Originally Posted by Heinzftw

2nd that. When I first read the post title I was thinking new bigger turbos you can order from the factory.

Me 2! Its still good news tho

[InlineSix]

Originally Posted by SF_135i

Can you feel 20 HP though?

Yes you can my friend.

[InlineSix]

PRICE?!?!?! well, its amazing the BMW is offering this, regardless of the price. Good move on their part to keep the 1 competitive.

[Evolved]

Originally Posted by InlineSix

PRICE?!?!?! well, its amazing the BMW is offering this, regardless of the price. Good move on their part to keep the 1 competitive.

If it was to keep the 1 competitive it would be free and all future cars would come with the new software. It's just another way for them to make money.

20hp at the engine is nothing. If it was 20whp that would be a slightly different story.

[M3_Dust]

Originally Posted by 993 911

Sounds like it will be an epic waste of money.

best post/agree

[M3_Dust]

Originally Posted by InlineSix

Yes you can my friend.

you must have a really sensitive butt-dyno to feel a 7% increase in HP

[Evolved]

Originally Posted by M3_Dust

you must have a really sensitive butt-dyno to feel a 7% increase in HP

More like 5% after drive train loss.

[InlineSix]

Originally Posted by Evolved

If it was to keep the 1 competitive it would be free and all future cars would come with the new software. It's just another way for them to make money.

20hp at the engine is nothing. If it was 20whp that would be a slightly different story.

Ah I see, I thought this was going to be implemented on future 135i and available for those already sold...

Well, on the positive side, you keep your warrenty :-)

[adc]

According to BMW, the 0-62 time drops by 0.2 sec which is negligible, but the 80-120 km/h (50-75 mph) time drops by 0.5 sec which is significant. So at speed the "improved" car should put an easy 2 lengths on the "regular" car.

I bet a JB+ or SSTT on top of this will make for an excellent combination.


That being said, if the improved cooling comes courtesy of a different water pump and/or fan, the installed cost will be much greater than $1000 - think $2000. (Just updating the SW on the car takes 5 hours labor or so).

Perhaps what this tells us is that for long term reliability, chipped cars need a better cooling system.

[Wraith]

Originally Posted by JB135i

Depends on the price of course...

On a side note, everyone should send a thank you note to Nissan (for the 370Z) and to Hyundai (for the Genesis Coupe), because in my opinion those cars definately provided some additional motivation to bump the 135i number up.

Hmmm, interesting point...but it will mainly only improve straight line performance for the 135i.

So what do you think they'll offer for enhancing the handling/steering/traction etc. side of things, as even with this power increase a 135i will still not match up to a 370Z on any track or road twisties...no idea yet how good or not a Hyundai Genesis coupe is ??

Then again, imagine any enhancements to a 370Z will put it further ahead once again...

[adc]

Originally Posted by Wraith

So what do you think they'll offer for enhancing the handling/steering/traction etc. side of things, as even with this power increase a 135i will still not match up to a 370Z on any track or road twisties...

They already offer that - the BMW Performance Suspension. Add M3 control arms, sways etc and you'll be set.

And any set of max perf summers on LTW wheels will improve the traction end.

[Add1ct]

Originally Posted by zbladejr

20 more horsepower on top of 300?

Wow, that's what suffices for a 'performance turbo upgrade'?

And yes, I'll bet it's $800+ installed.

So, I think I'll be doing my own mods once warranty runs out.

This car should be modified by BMW to 350+ hp for $1000. Then we've got a deal.
(include new down pipes, software, water cooling - can be done; software is essentially zero cost for them).

Are they trying to build an enthusiast base with the 1 series? So far, I'm not convinced.

if it's only around 800 it will be very reasonable for a BMW product, I've been hearing rumors of 2k plus! I really wish they would release the pricing because if it's around 1000 then I'll get the performance exhaust and go the BMW route, if it's 2k then I'll just say F**K it and go elsewhere

[bdkevoIX]

Originally Posted by Papa13

For sure, you can feel a 5hp increase.

Your ass must be super sensitive.
I couldn't feel a 30whp difference.

After 100whp increase, I was like 'ah, it feels faster'.

[Evolved]

Originally Posted by bdkevoIX

Your ass must be super sensitive.
I couldn't feel a 30whp difference.

After 100whp increase, I was like 'ah, it feels faster'.

You can definitely fell 30whp. That's what you get with a flash on a 1.8t Gti.

Side not, I have a 2.3 stroker as well.

[BzzzBom]

BMW may be greedy but not stupid. The price will be less than Dinan but not under $1,000. My guess is $1,250.

[Add1ct]

^ that's not bad

[Citizen Z]

Originally Posted by Add1ct

^ that's not bad

If it comes with some hardware, its not such a bad deal; it its a pure software tune, worst value ever.

[bluemoon]

Originally Posted by Citizen Z

If it comes with some hardware, its not such a bad deal; it its a pure software tune, worst value ever.

True depending on the cost but the cooling hardware should have been on the car originally as it already runs hot (oil temp 250-260º) on the highway in the summer months w/AC on. Don't know what the coolant temp runs but it must be pretty toasty also.

[SlickShift]

If it's under $500, then that's reasonable. But I have a feeling it'll be well over a thousand.