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09-07-2007, 08:09 AM | #1 |
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Another 1 Coupe Preview: Photos And Info
Some may be interested in our 1 coupe preview at Autobahn Report: http://www.AutobahnReport.com/
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09-07-2007, 03:57 PM | #6 | |
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I believe pricing will be the key to the success or failure of 1. As good of a car 135 might be if it priced high it will not sell well. No one can justify spending close to 40k on a coupe when they can have full size performance 4 door sedan. Hell one can have 335 for that money. |
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09-07-2007, 04:37 PM | #11 |
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An M Coupe is $12k more than that. A 350Z can cost that much, and has less interior volume. Lots of cars are that "small" and cost significantly more. So what?
A Lotus Elise is way smaller and costs $14,000 more. If you're looking for lotsa lbs for your $$, consider a truck. |
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09-07-2007, 04:47 PM | #12 | |
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And I love the truck bit!! Reminds me of something a friend told me, "Lotsa guys say their trucks drive like sports cars, but nobody says their sports car drives like a truck." But w/o being too hard on young Victor, there is a sentiment prevelant in the USA that given two equivalently priced cars, the larger one will win out. |
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People who scout message boars ie enthusiasts might consider small car for that price but average buyer will not. Lets face it most buyers including BMW buyers are not enthusiasts. |
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09-07-2007, 05:16 PM | #15 |
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A few years back a gal at work asked about what cars I'd recommend; she was a young mom and wanted a sedan - she lived in the rich 'burbs. I said an Avalon would be a very nice car, but she said she was looking at BMWs. I said, "They'd be great - but you do realize they are rear wheel drive." The response was , "N-O-O-O-O, nobody makes rear wheel drive cars anymore!"
I told her about real snow tires and she bought it - the badge looks nice in her garage. And she's a good gal to boot. Just needed the personal affirmation that the roundel could give her.:wink: |
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09-07-2007, 05:18 PM | #16 | |
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A base 3 series starts at 35-36k(cdn) here, and well if you think of a a full load A3 it easily hits 45k(cdn) with a few options. Not sure how that all works in US, but it adds to me.:iono: edit: the A3 being a car that it will compete with, IMO |
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09-07-2007, 05:46 PM | #17 | |
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I totally agree. Those looking for a cheap well equipped cheap twin-turbo car should look elsewhere. This isnt the car that is going to save BMW because they simple dont need saving. What people are forgetting is that the car is a relatively tiny 300 HUNDRED HORSEPOWER vehicle. Find another with the same power to weight ratio and I will gladly be quiet. Quite frankly, I dont think BMW gives a flying F*CK that americans will go to the bigger 3 series if the price gap isnt bigger. That is what the 128 is for.
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09-07-2007, 06:00 PM | #18 |
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5.1 KG per HP (from some UK info on the 135i, IIRC) - hmmmm, lets see that's 11.22 pounds per HP.
OK, with that as a starting point - the Z51 'vette is more expensive (but WOW!! - 7.2 lbs/HP); the G37 - same price range but bigger (at 10.9 lbs/HP), Solstie GXP (about 11.66 lbs/HP) - I don't have handy stats on the Scooby Doo or Evo and I'm sure there's more . . . but that'll give you an idea that there is for 135i competition. |
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09-07-2007, 06:03 PM | #19 |
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BMW told Autobahn Report that these are the prices they are considering, a base 128i at the low end and loaded 135i at the top end.
Nothing, of course, will be firmed up until closer to the on-sale date.
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09-07-2007, 06:15 PM | #20 |
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I have only been around this site for a week and I am so tired of all the price speculation, lets just wait and see.
I remember all the speculation on the E92 335 last year. The popular consensus was off, most believed base price in the 43 - 45K range. I have a good feeling the same will be true with the 135i. BMW will let us know soon enough. |
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09-12-2007, 07:40 AM | #21 |
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Perhaps an official price announcement is slated for the '08 Detroit auto show. That's my best guess. Could still be too early for pricing, even then.
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09-12-2007, 08:44 AM | #22 |
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$38k and change for a fully specced 135i is good news IMO. Should make the base around $32 or a little less, depending on what options (sunroof, HID headlights) they throw in the base number.
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