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      07-16-2019, 11:51 AM   #23
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White dude that thinks he is black and a civil rights leader. Very confused libtart.
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That is a terrible idea. The last thing we need is more government intervention in any business that is a private or PL company! No!

Plus, if the government started regulating them, it would only be a matter of time before they started regulating other forms of public speech.

Really think hard here - do you honestly think that the government regulating speech within the location of a private company is a good thing?

I get your point but these social media giants have become an oligopoly. Their market power has become so great that there effectively exist barriers to entry for alternatives. Same thing applied to utilities way back - I'm sure you understand the concept of a natural monopoly. For power companies and other utilities it meant either regulation or bust up. This was necessary prevent consumers from getting abused. The social media giants have somewhat a monopoly on thought (keep in mind most people are sheep and their thought are nearly dictated by social media)

I could try to start an alternative to FB, Twitter, etc, but, the financial and social clout of those companies make it really infeasible.

As an aside, I'd bet that if the social media giants were all right leaning, there would be action. Hell, Warren want to bust them up on some principle - I guess she doesn't like their wealth.
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I get your point but these social media giants have become an oligopoly. Their market power has become so great that there effectively exist barriers to entry for alternatives. Same thing applied to utilities way back - I'm sure you understand the concept of a natural monopoly. For power companies and other utilities it meant either regulation or bust up. This was necessary prevent consumers from getting abused. The social media giants have somewhat a monopoly on thought (keep in mind most people are sheep and their thought are nearly dictated by social media)

I could try to start an alternative to FB, Twitter, etc, but, the financial and social clout of those companies make it really infeasible.

As an aside, I'd bet that if the social media giants were all right leaning, there would be action. Hell, Warren want to bust them up on some principle - I guess she doesn't like their wealth.
I agree, and can certainly see that point, however I still stand fast by my rule of 'little government intervention as possible'. The two important things to note, are (a) the social media platforms are a choice by consumers to use a product, and as such, can leave that platform if they desire - they just don't desire and (b) as soon as you allow the government to begin regulating free speech in a private venue, it's all downhill from there. Doesn't matter if you are a Stalinist Leftist or an extreme Right Wing Extremist, this should bother the hell out of you. Keep government out of free speech.
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I agree, and can certainly see that point, however I still stand fast by my rule of 'little government intervention as possible'. The two important things to note, are (a) the social media platforms are a choice by consumers to use a product, and as such, can leave that platform if they desire - they just don't desire and (b) as soon as you allow the government to begin regulating free speech in a private venue, it's all downhill from there. Doesn't matter if you are a Stalinist Leftist or an extreme Right Wing Extremist, this should bother the hell out of you. Keep government out of free speech.
The choice is limited as people "need" social media now. And it's not free speech if a handful of people running some monopolistic organisations can censor.

The only regulating that needs to happen is not allowing an entity with huge power over information to regulate what the rest of the country, world for that matter, see and hear. It's flat out dangerous. They are so much more powerful and influential than the news media.
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The choice is limited as people "need" social media now. And it's not free speech if a handful of people running some monopolistic organisations can censor.

The only regulating that needs to happen is not allowing an entity with huge power over information to regulate what the rest of the country, world for that matter, see and hear. It's flat out dangerous. They are so much more powerful and influential than the news media.
We are just never going to see eye to eye on this, so there really isn't any more to discuss.

As mentioned, I 100% agree with everything you have posted, I just don't feel that government intervention into a private enterprise is the right answer. It almost never is.

Government will invariably always make the situation worse in the long run.
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I agree, and can certainly see that point, however I still stand fast by my rule of 'little government intervention as possible'. The two important things to note, are (a) the social media platforms are a choice by consumers to use a product, and as such, can leave that platform if they desire - they just don't desire and (b) as soon as you allow the government to begin regulating free speech in a private venue, it's all downhill from there. Doesn't matter if you are a Stalinist Leftist or an extreme Right Wing Extremist, this should bother the hell out of you. Keep government out of free speech.


Dude made a good point. I happen to work for a utility company.. We are a monopoly and have to be regulated, otherwise what is stopping us from charging you $2kWH? Or let's say I do not like your political views and decide to cut your power off? This is why utilities are regulated by the FERC, NERC, and BPU.
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We are just never going to see eye to eye on this, so there really isn't any more to discuss.

As mentioned, I 100% agree with everything you have posted, I just don't feel that government intervention into a private enterprise is the right answer. It almost never is.

Government will invariably always make the situation worse in the long run.

You know I do agree with you.. Look at the VA, this is a good example of government ran health care. Most vets agree that it sucks.

I came from a communist country where EVERYTHING was controlled government. End result was a inefficient economic shit hole.

So yes loads of government regulations is not the answer but you also have to make sure that monopolies don't become uncontrollable fiefdoms.
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Dude made a good point. I happen to work for a utility company.. We are a monopoly and have to be regulated, otherwise what is stopping us from charging you $2kWH? Or let's say I do not like your political views and decide to cut your power off? This is why utilities are regulated by the FERC, NERC, and BPU.
You work for a "PUBLIC" utility company. If you cut my power off during January in the Northeast, I can die.

No one is going to die if they can't post on Facebook.

There is a difference. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
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You work for a "PUBLIC" utility company. If you cut my power off during January in the Northeast, I can die.

No one is going to die if they can't post on Facebook.

There is a difference. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
You are right and the thing that is stopping me from cutting your power in January, for lets say months of non-payment is the BPU.

And when your platform is powerful enough to influence elections then yeah you need to be looked at.
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Ugh of course a bunch of spoiled little white libtarts raising a flag of a country that they do not live in or represents them in anyway. Now any person there who happened to be Mexican or from Central America needs to ask themselves this... Why the fuck are you raising the flag of a country that you risked life and limb to leave so badly?

And the fat pussy who said fuck the troops.. I highly doubt he would walk into a bar that is frequented by the military personnel and say that. Oh and the crazy bitch looked high as fuck and probably is dumber than AOC.
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That gal is a stoned cold psycho. On some Walter White special?

And what in the living hell is that in the purple dress?
Looks like the inmate from The Green Mile that had the circus mouse but in a dress with balloon titties.

"F the troops" from a half a sissy.

REEEEEEE!

The girl in black is smok'n!
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That gal is a stoned cold psycho. On some Walter White special?

And what in the living hell is that in the purple dress?

"F the troops" from a half a sissy.

REEEEEEE!

The girl in black is smok'n!

I didnt even want to open up that can of worms but yeah wtf was that thing.
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I didnt even want to open up that can of worms but yeah wtf was that thing.
That was the "Resistance" reeeeeeeee
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Dude made a good point. I happen to work for a utility company.. We are a monopoly and have to be regulated, otherwise what is stopping us from charging you $2kWH? Or let's say I do not like your political views and decide to cut your power off? This is why utilities are regulated by the FERC, NERC, and BPU.
My point. It's information (near) monopoly vs electric power, but, I can make a case for some regulation such as requiring open access. The social media giants don't have to answer to anyone yet they are essentially a monopoly as they all seem to have the same social and political leaning.
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That was the "Resistance" reeeeeeeee

When I think resistance I tend to picture the teenagers and 20 somethings fighting the Warsaw Uprising. Fighting a real war against battle hardened wehrmacht and SS divisions such as the notorious SS-Sturmbrigade Dirlewanger.. That was a true resistance against Nazi fascists.

The first fire fight would have been a wrap for these tools. They would have been screaming, crying, and running around like a bunch of retards. In all the confusion they probably would have shot their own buddies in the back.
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You work for a "PUBLIC" utility company. If you cut my power off during January in the Northeast, I can die.

No one is going to die if they can't post on Facebook.

There is a difference. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.
Are you certain about this?
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I live next to these degenerates!!

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Awesome.

I bet the guy who looks like Steven Wright with balloons for tits is fantastic at parties.

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Awesome.

I bet the guy who looks like Steven Wright with balloons for tits is fantastic at parties.

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