C&D: 1M Takes Down Audi TT RS and Infiniti IPL G37 in First 1M Comparo Win

E821M · 03-26-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Croatian test driver

Yes, because it looks more redish than orange/copper. I actually prefer this redish look, too.

It seems as if VO gives way to this redish hue on drab or overcast days.

Art__Vandelay · 03-26-2011, 03:25 PM

I would like to see the dyno results of this TTRS, since Audi is known to provide cars "in good shape" for such tests.

///1M · 03-26-2011, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rps1m

It seems as if VO gives way to this redish hue on drab or overcast days.

At least in these photos. It must be seen in person.

M3 Adjuster · 03-26-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MrRoboto

How does C&D even have a car to test?

the article indicates that used the car was the ALMS pace car for the Daytona 24hrs

BrokenVert · 03-26-2011, 03:33 PM

fun read but I still think that C&D articles are crap.

suffeks · 03-26-2011, 03:52 PM

0-60 4.6s is manual version not DSG. DSG is not coming to america, but manual with increased power bump to 360hp and it will be a 4.2s 0-60

conneem-TT · 03-26-2011, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Croatian test driver

I would like to see the dyno results of this TTRS, since Audi is known to provide cars "in good shape" for such tests.

I'd say it is about right when compared to the other times for the other cars.

Just for comparison, some SportAuto times.

Car . . . . . . . . . 135i(306PS) . . . AC Schnitzer 135i(360ps) . . . S-Tronic TTRS

0-100km/h . . . . . . 5,2s . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,8s . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 4,2s
0-160km/h . . . . . . 12,3s . . . . . . . . . . . 10,8s . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 10,1s

Also a stage 2 (remap + exhaust ~410hp) manual TTRS has done a 3.15 0-60mph and 11.69 1/4 mile in the UK.

But as expected the 1M was more involving to drive. Two excellent cars just for people with different requirements. The TT can be practical if you want, try fitting 4 tyres in the back of most coupes

Impervious · 03-26-2011, 04:12 PM

Props to Audi for making that TT achieve a sub 4 second run. It will be interesting to truly see what the TT runs when a manual one arrives stateside. I agree with the results in that the M is the best all round sports car. I felt bad for the Infiniti getting thrown in the mix with two heavy weights.

HERR FSTIR · 03-26-2011, 04:58 PM

So what is the availability of the TT-RS in North America?

My (limited) understanding is about 2000 units to be delivered over 24 months starting this summer at $66,000/unit.

Are there waiting lists already as with the 1M? Sold out?

BrokenVert · 03-26-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by HERR FSTIR

Are there waiting lists already as with the 1M? Sold out?

give a 1M till the summer. Im willing to bet that theyll suffer the same fate as Z4MCs. Massive initial demand followed 6 months later by them stacked up dealer lots.

HERR FSTIR · 03-26-2011, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

give a 1M till the summer. Im willing to bet that theyll suffer the same fate as Z4MCs. Massive initial demand followed 6 months later by them stacked up dealer lots.

I am going to contact my regional Audi dealer and see what the deal is with the TT-RS. I suspect they must already have a long waiting list.

BMW's massive hyping of the 1M followed by "hurry up and wait, maybe one day we'll let you know if you have an allocation" is starting to get on my nerves...

Still comitted to the 1M, but must admit I am a little curious about the TT-RS.

BrokenVert · 03-26-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HERR FSTIR

I am going to contact my regional Audi dealer and see what the deal is with the TT-RS. I suspect they must already have a long waiting list.

BMW's massive hyping of the 1M followed by "hurry up and wait, maybe one day we'll let you know if you have an allocation" is starting to get on my nerves...

Its worse for the potential 1M vert

First they were like yeah well do it. Then they said no wait we cant. Then they said ohh we may make one if the demand for the 1MC is great enough.

But then they said yeah you should buy a 1MC so that you can get the vert.

Im only interested in the vert. lol

M3 Adjuster · 03-26-2011, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrokenVert

fun read but I still think that C&D articles are crap.

Did you manage to carbon copy Car and Driver on this post?

poverty · 03-26-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 11N55

I don't believe those numbers...

Must be a typo...everywhere I have read it says 4.6...and a 12.1 1/4 time is absurd...lol

Spot on time for a s-tronic TTRS.

I have a manual TTRS and when it was stock I did a 12.6 quarter mile with a passenger, on my first run, on a badly prepared and slippery drag strip.

The TTRS is my daily drive, and I find living with it no worse or better than my old Leon Cupra aka rebodied mk5 golf gti. Actually thats not true because in the wet or if its snowing I dont have traction issues unless im being really silly.

I cant wait to see what modded 1m's can do, I would love to have one along with my TT.

GPS numbers for a remapped TTRS

MPH Secs
30.00 0
40.00 0.61
50.00 1.26
60.00 1.98
70.00 3.38
80.00 4.34
90.00 5.48
95.00 6.14

997 Turbo Gen 1

30-60mph: 2.2 secs

458 Italia by EVO Magazine:
30-60mph: 1,6 s
30-100mph: 5,2 s

Muffnbluff · 03-27-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by 11N55

I don't believe those numbers...

Must be a typo...everywhere I have read it says 4.6...and a 12.1 1/4 time is absurd...lol

Yeah my jaw dropped on that one. AWD helps, but I doubt my 380whp STi could even go 12.1.

Bavarian E92 · 03-27-2011, 05:08 PM

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/..._coupe_photo_6

TT RS looks pretty sick!

superchargedman · 03-27-2011, 05:16 PM

this comparo seems to parallel c&d's evaluation of 911 turbo vs gtr vs m3. they concluded that the m3 was much more a driver's car, despite the gtr's ability to erase the road with its meaty paws:

Impervious · 03-27-2011, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Croatian test driver

I would like to see the dyno results of this TTRS, since Audi is known to provide cars "in good shape" for such tests.

More info on this? Not doubting you just curious...

Diver · 03-27-2011, 05:29 PM

My take is these three cars don't belong in the same test. The Audi is so pricey it should be compared to an M3. The infiniti is out of it's class performance wise. A stock 135i could trounce the G, with or without a DCT. As for the 1M, it does take the weirdness of the 135i a notch higher.

Last time I saw a test of a 135i it was against an RX8 and a 370Z. That didn't make sense to me either. The one is a great car, but it is out there by itself. That might be one reason why it is great.

pyrat · 03-27-2011, 05:39 PM

the skidpad 0.97 makes me want this car even more than I did. Applause BMW.

Jet Mech · 03-27-2011, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Diver

My take is these three cars don't belong in the same test. The Audi is so pricey it should be compared to an M3. The infiniti is out of it's class performance wise. A stock 135i could trounce the G, with or without a DCT. As for the 1M, it does take the weirdness of the 135i a notch higher.

Last time I saw a test of a 135i it was against an RX8 and a 370Z. That didn't make sense to me either. The one is a great car, but it is out there by itself. That might be one reason why it is great.

They should test the 1M against the Boss Mustang. Both cost the same and the reviews of the Boss are really good.

BrokenVert · 03-27-2011, 05:41 PM

Im waiting for the 1M M3 reviews...cause you know theyre coming.

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