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      07-16-2019, 01:49 PM   #45
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Hmmmm, we'll agree to disagree on that - especially when we're talking about what would amount to a relatively large conspiracy.

Just assuming "Well, sure, there have to have been some photos that would turn up when you search for 'Bill Clinton with Jeff Epstein'." isn't going to cut it.
Just ask any of bill’s security guards who watched him board the lolita express 26 documented times. Mind you they may very well be sworn into secrecy.
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Did you seriously just cite "the Food Babe" while criticizing other sources as suspect?

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fyi....a reference to an earlier post of his.
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      07-16-2019, 01:53 PM   #47
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Just ask any of bill’s security guards who watched him board the lolita express 26 documented times. Mind you they may very well be sworn into secrecy.
Wrong reference. It has been conjectured that he boarded the plane 26 times based on flight records per gawker.
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Did you seriously just cite "the Food Babe" while criticizing other sources as suspect?

C'mon, man.....
I'm actually using the information contained, therein. Address the changes, please.

And please look at the Forbes article on their methodology...by methodology, I mean lack thereof.
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Not necessarily. Just as one may look for a submarine by what's not there rather than what is there.

These people are attention whores and never met a camera they didn't like...especially for high profile events.
Not sure if Silent will weigh in on this, but subs, when passively tracking ships or other subs, use sound to find them. Plane will use sonobuoys and magnetic detectors. They look, and find them, by finding something. Not by not finding anything.
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Just ask any of bill’s security guards who watched him board the lolita express 26 documented times. Mind you they may very well be sworn into secrecy.
How does that address the claim of Google and others "scrubbing" image searches?

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Not sure if Silent will weigh in on this, but subs, when passively tracking ships or other subs, use sound to find them. Plane will use sonobuoys and magnetic detectors. They look, and find them, by finding something. Not by not finding anything.
I know how they look for submarines using those methods. Those are not the only ones.
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I'm actually using the information contained, therein. Address the changes, please.

And please look at the Forbes article on their methodology...by methodology, I mean lack thereof.
I didn't click the link, because I positively refuse to give that twat the traffic. If you have a link to the source material - because I know that moron didn't do any of her own research - I'll be happy to look at it.

The Forbes article on Snopes' methodology? I wasn't defending Snopes, in any way, shape or form.
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I know how they look for submarines using those methods. Those are not the only ones.
The sonar? Obvious, sure, but it gives away your position. Are there other ways? Do I need "Q" clearance? Q pun intended.......
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I didn't click the link, because I positively refuse to give that twat the traffic. If you have a link to the source material - because I know that moron didn't do any of her own research - I'll be happy to look at it.

The Forbes article on Snopes' methodology? I wasn't defending Snopes, in any way, shape or form.
I've looked at snopes and politifact many times. I have not run across any inaccuracies yet. But MK is saying this as he defends Project Veritas.
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I didn't click the link, because I positively refuse to give that twat the traffic. If you have a link to the source material - because I know that moron didn't do any of her own research - I'll be happy to look at it.

The Forbes article on Snopes' methodology? I wasn't defending Snopes, in any way, shape or form.
You chimed in so I though I'd include you in the response.

Poor methodology/techniques yield poor results.

Snopes is a joke.
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You chimed in so I though I'd include you in the response.

Poor methodology/techniques yield poor results.

Snopes is a joke.
Tell me about the methodology used by Project Veritas to infiltrate the Washington Post?
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You chimed in so I though I'd include you in the response.

Poor methodology/techniques yield poor results.

Snopes is a joke.
My point being that citing a complete loon and hack like the Food Babe is undermining your position. Much better to simply link to the source material itself.

What are your thoughts on the Food Babe's methodology and techniques?
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I've looked at snopes and politifact many times. I have not run across any inaccuracies yet. But MK is saying this as he defends Project Veritas.
Then you haven't looked closely at Snopes. They are a joke.

Please show me where I defend project Veritas? I simply performed multiple searches using multiple search engines and different combinations of words which yielded nothing but photoshopped pics.

And I'm still waiting for you to perform the search. A good researcher doesn't depend on the results of others to verify data when they can perform the experiment themselves. Replicable results are the foundation of good research and experimentation.
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Tell me about the methodology used by Project Veritas to infiltrate the Washington Post?
Completely fair.

People citing PV and the Food Babe don't have much ground to throw darts at Snopes' credibility, IMO. They're all suspect, some more so than others.
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Then you haven't looked closely at Snopes. They are a joke.

Please show me where I defend project Veritas? I simply performed multiple searches using multiple search engines and different combinations of words which yielded nothing but photoshopped pics.

And I'm still waiting for you to perform the search. A good researcher doesn't depend on the results of others to verify data when they can perform the experiment themselves. Replicable results are the foundation of good research and experimentation.
You are still using a logical fallacy in assuming I have to prove anything, So far, PJmedia, RT, and some other loony sites support your contention. Not being a Clinton fan, I really have not followed them (except a study I did in 2001). Why would I have a picture of them? The first 3 pages of a google search reveal nothing. And then there is this:

Opportunity cost

What would the cost to google be, compared to any benefit, for doing this? Erasing the pictures. They would be shunned, and lose most of their business. What do they have to gain?

The idea of the "picture scrubbing" is unintelligent.
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My point being that citing a complete loon and hack like the Food Babe is undermining your position. Much better to simply link to the source material itself.

What are your thoughts on the Food Babe's methodology and techniques?
Ask and you shall receive.

https://www.quora.com/Is-Snopes-bias...opes-is-biased
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You are still using a logical fallacy in assuming I have to prove anything, So far, PJmedia, RT, and some other loony sites support your contention. Not being a Clinton fan, I really have not followed them (except a study I did in 2001). Why would I have a picture of them? The first 3 pages of a google search reveal nothing. And then there is this:

Opportunity cost

What would the cost to google be, compared to any benefit, for doing this? Erasing the pictures. They would be shunned, and lose most of their business. What do they have to gain?

The idea of the "picture scrubbing" is unintelligent.
Lol. Are you seriously suggesting that the people who know exactly how many impressions are necessary to sway public opinion and who regularly censor information which doesn't fit a certain worldview don't do things, positive or negative to achieve their goals?

If so, congratulations on achieving the status of Docile and Compliant Citizen.
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Lol. Are you seriously suggesting that the people who know exactly how many impressions are necessary to sway public opinion and who regularly censor information which doesn't fit a certain worldview don't do things, positive or negative to achieve their goals?

If so, congratulations on achieving the status of Docile and Compliant Citizen.
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I've looked at snopes and politifact many times. I have not run across any inaccuracies yet. But MK is saying this as he defends Project Veritas.
How in the world would you know if you ran across an inaccuracy? You go in looking for something, see it, copy and paste it without ever thinking about its accuracy. They're wrong all the time, you just don't care about knowing.



Politifact got popped for claiming FALSE just the other day*. They don't research worth a crap. Pundifact, their sister company iirc, is even worse. Snopes? Stop it. Just stop it.

They're latest:

* That conservative black man, something Elder, made four claims about Democrats and slavery. Politifact rated each claim FALSE. He corrected them on 3 and admitted he missed 1. They finally changed their 3 FALSE ratings.

And this was just last week. Jeez.

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