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      06-24-2009, 12:08 PM   #45
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Why would you want that? It's kind of a tradition for BMW coupes to have frame-less front windows.
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      06-24-2009, 12:10 PM   #46
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I'd have to think about it for a while to come up with a coupe off the top of my head that has framed front windows, it's just not coupe-ish
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      06-24-2009, 12:15 PM   #47
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AWD.....for the Convertible.....this way, it will perform well in the snowy Chicago winter...with non RFT's
So you want a ~200lb heavier, slower, more expensive 1er Convertible? Where will you fit the spare for your non RFTs? I would say you have a better chance of hitting Powerball than either of these things happening let alone both, but hey good luck.
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      06-24-2009, 12:47 PM   #48
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I find it funny that you think you need AWD in Chicago!
Take a road trip to Canada! I love RWD cars in the winter. All you need is a good set of snow tires and a clue of how to drive in the winter!
Sorry for playing with you but that's hilarious, quiet frankly any AWD BMW is a Joke!
I used to agree with this but its not really true. If you live in hilly terrain or take trips to the mountains in winter AWD is definitely your friend.
Toronto gets about 12" more snow than Chicago yearly so I don't get your point there either. I think you should spend a winter in Stowe, VT where they get 4 to 5 times more snow than Toronto, add in mountainous terrain and tell me how much you love RWD then. Having said that an AWD 1 series doesn't make much sense to me esp. a convertible which will never happen. I'm not undermining the importance of snow tires either. AWD with snows (actually Nokian all weathers) is how I roll now that I'm in a more rural, hilly area. RWD with snows wasn't cutting it (or even getting me out of my driveway)
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      06-24-2009, 01:14 PM   #49
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I think RWD with snow tires is probably fine if you are always on plowed roads that are just snow packed. It may even be fine in a couple of inches of fresh snow. When you start getting 4+ inches on the road, the conditions become sloppy quick. AWD (with the proper tires) is very handy for these kinds of conditions or in snowy mountainous/hilly terrain as mentioned above.
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This could be old but I just saw it on the Spanish Autoblog:

http://es.autoblog.com/2009/06/24/el...mas-versiones/

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BMW will present in the Spanish market in the coming days the new line of 2010 Series 1, plus minor cosmetic and equipment upgrades for added coupé bodywork.

Among the most interesting developments are the emergence of the new 118d and 120i Coupé, 143 and 170 HP respectively. As always both engines out for their good performance, especially in diesel consumption, with an average consumption of 4.5 l/100 and CO2 emissions of 119 g / km.

For some European markets will exploit these small changes to introduce the new 116i with the engine two liters and 122 hp and 115 hp for the 116d, both now on sale for some time in Spain. Other developments reach equipment packages (known as Lifestyle and Sport Edition) which added a much lower cost, but for now we'll have to wait several days to learn and not including the final rates and for the region.

Foreign introduced new colors and design of tires while the car shown in a multifunction display with a higher resolution, new upholstery and new design details of decoration.
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Introducing the new BMW 118d Coupe and the BMW 120i Coupe.

Entering the 2010 model year, the BMW 1 Series as the guarantee for the broad-scale impact of BMW EfficientDynamics and as the epitome of Sheer Driving Pleasure in the compact segment is gaining even greater significance. Two additional, extra-economical low-emission engine variants are enhancing the model range of the BMW 1 Series Coupé as of September 2009: In the guise of the BMW 120i Coupé and the BMW 118d Coupé there will then be two further models with the EU5 emission rating.

Following the successful launch of the new entry-level three-door and five-door models, the BMW 116i and the BMW 116d, in spring 2009, the BMW 1 Series is once again proving its value as the pacemaker for efficient mobility combined with outstanding driving pleasure in the compact class. Other new models as of September 2009 are the Lifestyle and Sport Editions of the BMW 1 Series three- and five-door.

Still the only rear-wheel-drive model in the compact segment, the BMW 1 Series offers a unique blend of sporting driving pleasure and outstanding efficiency. Particularly the BMW 1 Series Coupé brings out this character so typical of the brand in truly convincing style, with two new entry-level versions of the two-door featuring a gasoline and a diesel engine coming into the market in September 2009: The new BMW 120i Coupé is powered by a 2.0-litre four-cylinder with BMW High Precision Injection (direct gasoline injection) developing 125 kW/170 hp at 6, 700 rpm and peak torque of 210 Newton-metres/155 lb-ft at 4, 250 rpm, accelerating the BMW 120i Coupé from zero to 100 km/h in 7.8 seconds and offering a top speed of 224 km/h or 149 mph. Average fuel consumption in the EU test cycle is 6.6 litres/ 100 kilometres, the CO2 emission rating is 153 grams per kilometre.

An award-winning four-cylinder diesel makes the new BMW 118d Coupé the most efficient car of its kind, the diesel engine with its aluminium crankcase, turbocharging and common-rail fuel injection helping the three-door BMW 118d win the World Green Car of the Year 2008 Award. Displacing 2.0 litres, this high-tech power unit develops 105 kW/143 hp at 4, 000 rpm and delivers maximum torque of 300 Newton-metres/221 lb-ft between 1, 750 and 2, 500 rpm.

This outstanding power unit offers an unbeatable combination of performance and fuel economy also in the Coupé, the BMW 118d Coupé accelerating from a standstill to 100 km/h in 9.0 seconds and reaching a top speed of 210 km/h or 130 mph. Offering average fuel consumption according to the EU standard of 4.5 litres/100 kilometres (equal to 62.8 mpg imp) and a CO2 emission rating of 119 grams per kilometre, this compact athlete clearly proves its outstanding talent in terms of both all-round economy and clean emissions.

The BMW 1 Series – the pacemaker in reducing fuel consumption and CO2 emissions.

Both new variants of the BMW 1 Series Coupé come as standard with a wide range of BMW EfficientDynamics technologies such as Brake Energy Regeneration, an Auto Start Stop function, a gearshift point indicator and ancillary units with on-demand management and control. Both the BMW 120i Coupé and the BMW 118d Coupé naturally fulfil the EU5 emission standard, meaning that the BMW 1 Series alone now comes with 21 models complying with this requirement. A further important point is that five models in the BMW 1 Series already offer a CO2 emission rating of less than 120 grams per kilometre, with the BMW 116d standing out as the absolute leader in terms of fuel economy and emission management. The four-cylinder diesel engine featured in this particular version of the BMW 1 Series delivers maximum torque of 260 Newton-metres or 192 lb-ft and, in combination with BMW EfficientDynamics also featured as standard in this model, allows average fuel consumption in the EU test cycle of just 4.4 litres/100 kilometres (equal to 64.2 mpg imp) and a CO2 rating of 118 grams per kilometre.

The technologies developed by BMW – and naturally featured at no extra cost – to reduce both fuel consumption and emissions play a particularly significant role in the successful BMW 1 Series. Indeed, this makes BMW an important role model for the entire automotive industry, with BMW still selling more cars with high-efficiency technology each month than other car makers in the course of a whole year. At the same time the consistent expansion of the BMW 1 Series by the addition of particularly economical model variants including the new BMW 116i delivering maximum output of 90 kW/122 hp and peak torque increased to 185 Newton-metres or 136 lb-ft makes a significant contribution to the success achieved by BMW in recent times in reducing average fleet fuel consumption. Between 2006 and 2008 alone, the average fuel consumption of BMW’s models in the German market was reduced by no less than 16 per cent, BMW therefore exceeding the rate of reduction of the next-best competitor in the premium segment more than twice.

The additional changes for Europe include entry-models for the BMW 1er Coupe as the Cabrio already features these options in Europe.
The ltd edition 1er in Marrakesh Brown foresees the new BMW X1 Sport Activity Vehicle which will offer this exclusive color.

The BMW 118d Coupe and the BMW 120i Coupe will not be sold in North America.
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      06-24-2009, 05:35 PM   #55
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Hopefully we will know about 2010 US spec models soon as well.
Europeans are getting some nice updates.. That business NAV unit sounds nice.
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      06-24-2009, 08:04 PM   #56
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I used to agree with this but its not really true. If you live in hilly terrain or take trips to the mountains in winter AWD is definitely your friend.
Toronto gets about 12" more snow than Chicago yearly so I don't get your point there either. I think you should spend a winter in Stowe, VT where they get 4 to 5 times more snow than Toronto, add in mountainous terrain and tell me how much you love RWD then. Having said that an AWD 1 series doesn't make much sense to me esp. a convertible which will never happen. I'm not undermining the importance of snow tires either. AWD with snows (actually Nokian all weathers) is how I roll now that I'm in a more rural, hilly area. RWD with snows wasn't cutting it (or even getting me out of my driveway)
Well actually I don't live in Toronto, I live in Northern Ontario. Just put Toronto down because no one knows any other place in Canada.
I have been to Stowe well Jay Peak for some great skiing in 3 plus feet of snow.
I can understand what you mean for getting up a driveway with tonnes of snow, but in all honesty what I have learned is if you can't get up your driveway why are you driving else where?
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      06-24-2009, 08:17 PM   #57
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For 2010 and following years, I only want ONE thing: make the 1 series 300 kg lighter with the M package, at no extra charge.

I know the tii will be lighter, but lighter cars should be standard for each model. All cars get bigger and heavier these days, and that just makes them less appealing (at least to me).

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the current car is heavy, my logic is that if the car is as great and fun and wonderful as it is with 1478kg to 1580 kg of weight, I can't even imagine what it would be if it were a 1150 to 1280 kg car !

At the very least I hope BMW shaves 100 kg off the weight. Please?
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      06-24-2009, 08:58 PM   #58
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For 2010 and following years, I only want ONE thing: make the 1 series 300 kg lighter with the M package, at no extra charge.

I know the tii will be lighter, but lighter cars should be standard for each model. All cars get bigger and heavier these days, and that just makes them less appealing (at least to me).

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the current car is heavy, my logic is that if the car is as great and fun and wonderful as it is with 1478kg to 1580 kg of weight, I can't even imagine what it would be if it were a 1150 to 1280 kg car !

At the very least I hope BMW shaves 100 kg off the weight. Please?
You could always remove the rear seats! Isn't that what Porsche does in there GT3 RS? Oh and add some scaf-holding.
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This could be old but I just saw it on the Spanish Autoblog:

http://es.autoblog.com/2009/06/24/el...mas-versiones/

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      06-24-2009, 09:51 PM   #61
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Well actually I don't live in Toronto, I live in Northern Ontario. Just put Toronto down because no one knows any other place in Canada.
I have been to Stowe well Jay Peak for some great skiing in 3 plus feet of snow.
I can understand what you mean for getting up a driveway with tonnes of snow, but in all honesty what I have learned is if you can't get up your driveway why are you driving else where?
You haven't seen my driveway- it doesn't take much if all 4 aren't turning!
I don't have the option of not driving through bad weather. For years I never had trouble with RWD/snow tire combo but my commute was shorter and flatter. Now I can't avoid hills and I can't count on roads being plowed when I leave at 5:30AM. I made the mistake of thinking FWD/snow tire combo would do the trick- it didn't. I actually felt less in control with FWD and really have no use for that layout. I can understand that for some (far less than those that buy them) an AWD BMW makes sense. For me it was a compromise I wasn't willing to make. For about the same up front cost I own 2 vehicles, 1 to get me there safe through any conditions and 1 to truly enjoy driving on nice days.
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Hopefully we will know about 2010 US spec models soon as well.
Me too! I'm picking my car up in September and now it looks like it will be a 2010 model!
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If you are going to do a 2010 then might as well wait for the refresh in 2011
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cool! refresh in 2011, when my lease ends! hopefully theres a diesel then
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I find it funny that you think you need AWD in Chicago!
Take a road trip to Canada! I love RWD cars in the winter. All you need is a good set of snow tires and a clue of how to drive in the winter!
Sorry for playing with you but that's hilarious, quiet frankly any AWD BMW is a Joke!
AWD is great for when it rains. If you think a RWD car in the snow is fun a AWD car is also incredibly fun.
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