Goodridge Brake Hoses

[fe1rx]

Here is an image of the Goodridge ss braided brake hose kit for the 135i:



The female end fittings appear to have hexes that are large enough that they won't pass through the mounting brackets, but they lack the keying feature of OE hoses.



The key is highly desirable to prevent the hose from becoming twisted during installation. Two wrenches and considerable care will be required to avoid twisting the hoses while tightening the flarenuts. For comparison purposes, here is the OE female end fitting:

[Dackelone]

A friend of mine, Rikx1M had these on his old 135i. A quality part from the UK(I believe).

[fe1rx]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

A friend of mine, Rikx1M had these on his old 135i. A quality part from the UK(I believe).

You have the UK part right, and I am sure the workmanship is good (as is the reputation), but without the keyed female end fittings, the design is deficient in this application.

When Goodridge (and it appears quite a few others) consciously deviated from the keyed end fitting design of the OE hoses, they can only have done so for one of the following two reasons:

1) they didn't have a keyed fitting available to them at the time and they figured an un-keyed fitting was good enough, or;

2) they had a keyed fitting available to them and they figured that an un-keyed fitting was a design improvement.

I can only speculate, but if 1), they are wrong (because a significant killer of braided hoses is being twisted on installation) and if 2), they are idiots.

At least, that is my opinion. I am eager to hear a defence of un-keyed end fittings, if there is one.

[Dackelone]

cross posting...

Concern regarding ER Brake Hoses
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1090379

[Rikx1M]

Originally Posted by Dackelone

A friend of mine, Rikx1M had these on his old 135i. A quality part from the UK(I believe).

I sold them to Nik Elsabor67 and also put these a year or so later on my 1M...when I get home in a couple of months I'll check my car.

[Solo_M_Tech]

Aside from the different fittings, once installed, i don't think it matters much. They look like quality hoses. My BMS braided steel hoses didn't have the keyed fitting and my BMW tech didn't have any issues installing them. I don't think it shows bad quality, but im sure the non keyed fittings were alot easier to get, cheaper, and helped keep the cost of their kit down so they could sell more of them. Just my opinion.

[Johnny_M]

I picked up a set of Goodridge Phantom Brake Lines (31052BKC) the other day. I appreciate fe1rx's analysis on the brake lines as they have altered what I originally was going to purchase. I took some pictures of the set I've received in case fe1rx or anyone else wants to check them out. Goodridge has two different types of lines available for our cars.

Here is a link to an imgur gallery with higher resolution photos:

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[John_01]

Originally Posted by fe1rx

At least, that is my opinion. I am eager to hear a defence of un-keyed end fittings, if there is one.

Fe1rx, are you going to use these on your car, or is there something else coming?

I nearly ordered the black Goodridge lines in the post above. Do you think the clear ones have an advantage to make it easier to inspect the lines for damage? If not I prefer the black ones that are less likely to draw attention from authorities and my insurance company etc.

[fe1rx]

Originally Posted by John_01

Fe1rx, are you going to use these on your car, or is there something else coming?

I nearly ordered the black Goodridge lines in the post above. Do you think the clear ones have an advantage to make it easier to inspect the lines for damage? If not I prefer the black ones that are less likely to draw attention from authorities and my insurance company etc.

I got the pictures of the Goodridge lines from a friendly supplier who took some pictures and sent them to me. I am actually installing Techna-Fit lines. I have installed the rears completely and they look good. Before I post my overall conclusions though I will complete the installation, but that is a while away because I am doing some other work at the front end first. My lines are black by choice, but I don't think it makes much difference. I really believe that the keyed female fittings are a highly desirable design feature, so personally, despite Goodridge's good reputation, I would not install their lines in this application.

[John_01]

I ended up buying a set of Goodridge hoses. The fittings are different from the ones pictured above. I think it may be because the version I bought (KTBW1010-6C) has stainless steel fittings. The supplier told me the Phantom kit is also available with zinc plated fittings which is a less expensive option. I ordered from a local Australian company, Cometition Friction.

[fe1rx]

This is good.

[ShocknAwe]

Any issues with these lines being slightly too short, akin to another brand of ss brake lines?

[John_01]

Originally Posted by ShocknAwe

Any issues with these lines being slightly too short, akin to another brand of ss brake lines?

They seem ok to me. They are nothing like the pictures of some pictures of some other brand I have seen. The rear line straightens out a bit when the car is on jack stands, but its not to the point causing me concern. I am still curious if there is any difference in fitment between these and the M3/1M brake lines. The Goodridge Phantom kit says its compatible with all 1 series cars including the 1M coupe.

[dcaron9999]

Originally Posted by John_01

I ended up buying a set of Goodridge hoses. The fittings are different from the ones pictured above. I think it may be because the version I bought (KTBW1010-6C) has stainless steel fittings. The supplier told me the Phantom kit is also available with zinc plated fittings which is a less expensive option. I ordered from a local Australian company, Cometition Friction.

Can you confirm the part # for this keyed set of lines?
Cannot find it anywhere, and not explicitly listed on you vendor's site ...
Hopefully these brake lines are available in North America ...

[dcaron9999]

Originally Posted by fe1rx

I got the pictures of the Goodridge lines from a friendly supplier who took some pictures and sent them to me. I am actually installing Techna-Fit lines. I have installed the rears completely and they look good. Before I post my overall conclusions though I will complete the installation, but that is a while away because I am doing some other work at the front end first. My lines are black by choice, but I don't think it makes much difference. I really believe that the keyed female fittings are a highly desirable design feature, so personally, despite Goodridge's good reputation, I would not install their lines in this application.

Hey James - how are the Techna-fit front and rear lines holding up? Any issues so far?
Does the BMW-1850 kit on a 2011 135i (only listed for 2008-2009 MY)?

[fe1rx]

Originally Posted by dcaron9999

Hey James - how are the Techna-fit front and rear lines holding up? Any issues so far?
Does the BMW-1850 kit on a 2011 135i (only listed for 2008-2009 MY)?

The Techna-fit hoses are working without any issues. I can't see any reason that they wouldn't fit on later models.

[John_01]

Originally Posted by dcaron9999

Can you confirm the part # for this keyed set of lines?
Cannot find it anywhere, and not explicitly listed on you vendor's site ...
Hopefully these brake lines are available in North America ...

To order the lines I had to email and phone the local supplier. Apparently they order stock from the UK on a weekly basis.
I can't answer your question except to say the version with stainless fittings is listed on the UK application guide
from this page: https://www.goodridge.net/after-mark...ication-guides

[dcaron9999]

Originally Posted by fe1rx

The Techna-fit hoses are working without any issues. I can't see any reason that they wouldn't fit on later models.

Hey James!

Im back here with the same question. Im thinking you must have put some more miles on the techna-fit hoses. Im sure you have put them to the test through proper use and abuse at the track.

Do you still like them, and recommend them? I have purchased an RB SS front+rear piston rebuild kit, and think I want to swap the hoses while Im at it ...

My two options are:

#1: Techna-Fit BMW-1850
#2 Goodridge SBW1010-6C (SS fittings) or SBW1010-6P (Zinc plated fittings)

[fe1rx]

Originally Posted by dcaron9999

Hey James!

Im back here with the same question. Im thinking you must have put some more miles on the techna-fit hoses. Im sure you have put them to the test through proper use and abuse at the track.

Do you still like them, and recommend them? I have purchased an RB SS front+rear piston rebuild kit, and think I want to swap the hoses while Im at it ...

My two options are:

#1: Techna-Fit BMW-1850
#2 Goodridge SBW1010-6C (SS fittings) or SBW1010-6P (Zinc plated fittings)

I have no complaints at all regarding the Techna-Fit hoses, but I do feel that the fronts are a bit more fragile than the OE rubber hoses when it comes to doing a pad change. I think this is true of all braided hoses, so I use a bit more care. My approach is to pull the rotor off at the same time as I remove the caliper, then I put the caliper right back in place with a single bolt. Without the rotor there you can remove and replace the pads without straining the hoses. All this can be done without needing a third hand, with a bit of planning.

I suggest not using any hose you can't confirm is keyed before you buy it. Ask them to send you a picture of the fittings before you buy.

Techna-Fit is very easy to deal with directly. They stuck my hoses in the mail and they arrived uneventfully. Of course you have exchange rate to deal with, but Techna-Fit's prices are very good and likely will be cheaper than the alternatives, even with shipping and exchange.

I suggest calling them directly and speaking with either Stuart Trotter or Chris Herman. I dealt with Chris.

http://www.techna-fit.com/contacts.html