New N52 Tune (PowerBox)

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-17-2009, 04:24 PM

Hey Guys

First post in the non-turbo section and I am soooo excited. I have had a lot of questions and requests from you guys over the last year to get BMS to develop a tune for you guys.... Well here it is!!!!

A new tune for the N52 platform, more specifically for the

E90 / E91 / E92 / E93 / E82 / E83 / E85 / E86 / E88 / E89 / E70 / E60 / E61 / E63 / E64 / E65 / E66

BMS Power Box USA Applications (N52)

• E90/E91/E92/E93 325i/325xi Sedan, Touring, Coupé and Convertible
• E90/E92/E93 328i/328xi Sedan, Coupé, (inc 4WD versions) and the Hardtop Convertible
• E82 128i Coupé
• E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E90 330i Sedan
• E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé
• E60/E61 528i/528xi Sedan and Touring (inc 4WD versions)
• E85 Z4 3.0i Roadster
• E60/E61 525i Sedan and Touring

BMS Power Box European Applications (N52)

• E90/E92/E93 330i/330Ci Sedan, Coupé and Hardtop Convertible
• E82/E88 125i Coupé and Cabriolet
• E60/E61 530i Sedan and Touring
• E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé
• E89 Z4 sDrive30i
• E63/E64 630i Sedan
• E65/E66 730i Sedan
• E60/E61 523i Sedan and Touring
• E90 323i Sedan
• E83 X3 2.5si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E85 Z4 2.5si Roadster
• E89 Z4 sDrive23i

Works on all USA, Canadian & European models - 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 non-diesel, non-turbo models

The BMS Power Box features a pin out style installation, gas pedal map switching between 7 maps, throttle pedal remapping for snappier response, and dyno gains of 8-10hp and 8-10tq. This is how the car should have come from the factory. Removes that delay when you hit the gas.

Installation takes minutes using basic hand tools and is completely plug and play with no cutting of wires. The BMS Power Box is not traceable through the factory ECU/DME (Including the new 29.2 and later ECU software and MSD81 ECU designed to detect tuners) and can be quickly removed leaving no sign of modification. Installation is very discrete allowing most customers to leave the unit installed for basic service.

BMS Power Box on a completely Stock automatic BMW 328i on 91 octane (dynos attached at the bottom of the post)

Just wanted to give you guys the official pre-release info. This will be release on November 1st, and will be shipped in the order, orders were received so get your pre-order in if you don't want to be disappointed.

Here is a link for a little more info, and Pre-Order if you wish!

http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=43

Thanks
Mike

Yuzi · 10-17-2009, 05:34 PM

very good news for 128er
does it remove the top speed limiter as well?
anybody have it installed? can you tell a difference?

jibaholic101 · 10-17-2009, 05:46 PM

only 8-10?

damn thats nothing!

i am so glad i own a 135i

Fireflyer239 · 10-17-2009, 11:53 PM

For the record, I've had fast toys of all sorts in my garage for the last 25 years, and drove the 135 twice before choosing the 128 with sport package and very few options. I just prefer the basic purity, lighter weight, relative simplicity etc. of the NA BMW inline 6. My Ducati gives me all the speed I need.

10 extra ponies and 10 extra lb/ft, along with improved throttle response, is well worth $250 to $300. Yeah, we're aware that one can just "turn the screw" on any turbo car from a Neon to a Sube to a BMW and go faster cheaply...we know...and still we chose to drive NA cars, imagine that!!!

Fireflyer239 · 10-17-2009, 11:59 PM

Aaaaanyway...my N52 tune arrived today from Andrew at EMS (a BMS dealer). It's one of a few early-production units Terry put out to get some feedback and get the ball rolling. Waiting for him to post install intructions early next week. I'll post results.

Garduna · 10-18-2009, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireflyer239

Aaaaanyway...my N52 tune arrived today from Andrew at EMS (a BMS dealer). It's one of a few early-production units Terry put out to get some feedback and get the ball rolling. Waiting for him to post install intructions early next week. I'll post results.

Can't wait for your results

e82vette · 10-18-2009, 03:35 AM

only pre-order?
would like to hear experience first

crex · 10-18-2009, 08:20 AM

I actually love the 128i too even though I own a 135i. So I visit frequently to see if anyone was ever able to add the 3 stage manifold and ring out the 255 horsies. It is a great engine, just annoys me that bmw intentionally detuned it.

Evice · 10-18-2009, 08:54 AM

I really would like to see couple more dyno pulls about this product. But the gain is a little weaker, if it was 20-25HP, I'd be sending in my payment rightnow!

In addition, just like Crex mentioned, we still have lots of play room to pull that 35 HP because of detuned engine. I want the 130i's power.

Fireflyer239 · 10-18-2009, 10:28 AM

I think there's more to it though; although the basic engine is the same, I've heard the intake manifold may not be the same as the 130, and then there's the mechanicals of the valvetronic system which may be different(?) Yeah it would be great if we could get back all of the "lost" 30 ponies for sure. I would not trust just any company with the electronics of my new vehicle, but Terry/BMS have an outstanding record and reputation, with close to 2000 of the JB3's out there (for the 135's). And, as Terry mentions repeatedly, this is not just about peak power, but also throttle response being greatly improved from the stock "molasses" feel. Most German cars I've driven seem to feel this way, and while it seems okay on a 5-cylinder Jetta, I'd prefer crisp response with my 128. Countless reviewers of the "Sprint Booster" product say it's a "must have" for the increased response and driving enjoyment, and this new BMS tune will incorporate the same improvement - along with the power and torque increases - for $279. If you can afford a $30K+ vehicle, this seems very reasonable.

As I've mentioned in other posts, I plan to do some informal before/after (and hopefully accurate) roll-on accel tests. I will do them on the same stretch or road (you know that's no prob since here in CT we just have so many miles and miles of long straight open road, lol) and try to do them on the same day so the weather conditions will be the same, since that makes an appreciable difference. Maybe a cool dry night!

bmwsam · 10-18-2009, 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by e82vette

only pre-order?
would like to hear experience first

Me too!

BForbes · 10-18-2009, 09:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jibaholic101

only 8-10?

damn thats nothing!

i am so glad i own a 135i

Good for you. I'm sure many people are glad that they own a 128i.

supraking · 10-18-2009, 09:53 PM

I would love to install this in my 128i, but it's leased and it could obviously cause some problems if they ever found out I was using it. I know it says it can't be detected, but I'll wait to hear from other people for a few months (after winter's over) to make a decision. Really awesome news though, I'm glad the N52 is starting to get some much needed attention from tuners!

e82vette · 10-19-2009, 03:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evice

I really would like to see couple more dyno pulls about this product. But the gain is a little weaker, if it was 20-25HP, I'd be sending in my payment rightnow!

In addition, just like Crex mentioned, we still have lots of play room to pull that 35 HP because of detuned engine. I want the 130i's power.

true....8-10 is little weaker than we expected...
20whp would be damn!
btw, is this final product? will there be better finalized product that produce more hp in the future?

Citizen Z · 10-19-2009, 05:37 AM

I wonder how a supercharger would adapt to the N52? It'd go great with a custom powerbuldge M3 style hood...

McReary · 10-19-2009, 12:18 PM

interested.. waiting on the test run feedback before i drop my pretty pennies

janus77 · 10-19-2009, 05:56 PM

Same, will wait and see. A BMW performance guy who i got to install some parts reckoned best bang for buck power mod would be to get hold of a 130i intake manifold, and then reflash the ecu with 130i software. BUT.. this would be pretty expensive, the above option looks good for the cost. Very interested to hear how it goes.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 10-19-2009, 08:17 PM

Just got the full applications list from BMS

E90 / E91 / E92 / E93 / E82 / E83 / E85 / E86 / E88 / E89 / E70 / E60 / E61 / E63 / E64 / E65 / E66

BMS Power Box USA Applications (N52)

• E90/E91/E92/E93 325i/325xi Sedan, Touring, Coupé and Convertible
• E90/E92/E93 328i/328xi Sedan, Coupé, (inc 4WD versions) and the Hardtop Convertible
• E82 128i Coupé
• E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E90 330i Sedan
• E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé
• E60/E61 528i/528xi Sedan and Touring (inc 4WD versions)
• E85 Z4 3.0i Roadster
• E60/E61 525i Sedan and Touring

BMS Power Box European Applications (N52)

• E90/E92/E93 330i/330Ci Sedan, Coupé and Hardtop Convertible
• E82/E88 125i Coupé and Cabriolet
• E60/E61 530i Sedan and Touring
• E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé
• E89 Z4 sDrive30i
• E63/E64 630i Sedan
• E65/E66 730i Sedan
• E60/E61 523i Sedan and Touring
• E90 323i Sedan
• E83 X3 2.5si Sports Activity Vehicle
• E85 Z4 2.5si Roadster
• E89 Z4 sDrive23i

Fireflyer239 · 10-19-2009, 09:23 PM

Will be installing mine as soon as BMS posts the install instructions on their site. Went out and bought a cheap stopwatch at Sports Authority tonight, lol.

Berduderunner · 10-20-2009, 09:19 AM

Very Cool!

I'd LOVE to see a before/after 1/4 mile run from a 128!!!

Artmasterx · 10-20-2009, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Fireflyer239

Will be installing mine as soon as BMS posts the install instructions on their site. Went out and bought a cheap stopwatch at Sports Authority tonight, lol.

If you have an iPhone or iTouch, it would be cool to download the Dynolicious app and get some data that way as well...

Fireflyer239 · 10-20-2009, 12:09 PM

Palm Treo (piece of shit, need to trade up). But I will do some roll-on accel's, just waiting for install instructions from Terry at BMS.

10-17-2009, 04:24 PM	#1
Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4911 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	New N52 Tune (PowerBox) - November 1st!! Hey Guys First post in the non-turbo section and I am soooo excited. I have had a lot of questions and requests from you guys over the last year to get BMS to develop a tune for you guys.... Well here it is!!!! A new tune for the N52 platform, more specifically for the E90 / E91 / E92 / E93 / E82 / E83 / E85 / E86 / E88 / E89 / E70 / E60 / E61 / E63 / E64 / E65 / E66 BMS Power Box USA Applications (N52) • E90/E91/E92/E93 325i/325xi Sedan, Touring, Coupé and Convertible • E90/E92/E93 328i/328xi Sedan, Coupé, (inc 4WD versions) and the Hardtop Convertible • E82 128i Coupé • E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E90 330i Sedan • E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé • E60/E61 528i/528xi Sedan and Touring (inc 4WD versions) • E85 Z4 3.0i Roadster • E60/E61 525i Sedan and Touring BMS Power Box European Applications (N52) • E90/E92/E93 330i/330Ci Sedan, Coupé and Hardtop Convertible • E82/E88 125i Coupé and Cabriolet • E60/E61 530i Sedan and Touring • E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé • E89 Z4 sDrive30i • E63/E64 630i Sedan • E65/E66 730i Sedan • E60/E61 523i Sedan and Touring • E90 323i Sedan • E83 X3 2.5si Sports Activity Vehicle • E85 Z4 2.5si Roadster • E89 Z4 sDrive23i Works on all USA, Canadian & European models - 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, and 2009 non-diesel, non-turbo models The BMS Power Box features a pin out style installation, gas pedal map switching between 7 maps, throttle pedal remapping for snappier response, and dyno gains of 8-10hp and 8-10tq. This is how the car should have come from the factory. Removes that delay when you hit the gas. Installation takes minutes using basic hand tools and is completely plug and play with no cutting of wires. The BMS Power Box is not traceable through the factory ECU/DME (Including the new 29.2 and later ECU software and MSD81 ECU designed to detect tuners) and can be quickly removed leaving no sign of modification. Installation is very discrete allowing most customers to leave the unit installed for basic service. BMS Power Box on a completely Stock automatic BMW 328i on 91 octane (dynos attached at the bottom of the post) Just wanted to give you guys the official pre-release info. This will be release on November 1st, and will be shipped in the order, orders were received so get your pre-order in if you don't want to be disappointed. Here is a link for a little more info, and Pre-Order if you wish! http://www.n54tuning.com/index.php?_...d&productId=43 Thanks Mike Last edited by Mike@N54Tuning.com; 10-20-2009 at 09:52 AM..
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Yuzi Second Lieutenant 12 Rep 249 Posts Drives: BMW 128i Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Richmond, BC iTrader: (0)	very good news for 128er does it remove the top speed limiter as well? anybody have it installed? can you tell a difference? __________________ Currently driving 2003 HONDA S2000 128i \| Jet Black \| Premium package \| Sport package \| 18" Style 263 \| 6MT \| Injen Intake \| BMS PowerBox \|SOLD
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jibaholic101 Brigadier General 159 Rep 3,496 Posts Drives: women wild Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Charleston, SC iTrader: (0)	only 8-10? damn thats nothing! i am so glad i own a 135i __________________ some italian, german, and japanese ones; and on order more of the same
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Fireflyer239 First Lieutenant 19 Rep 349 Posts Drives: BMW, Jeep, Ducati & Harley Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Haven, CT iTrader: (0)	For the record, I've had fast toys of all sorts in my garage for the last 25 years, and drove the 135 twice before choosing the 128 with sport package and very few options. I just prefer the basic purity, lighter weight, relative simplicity etc. of the NA BMW inline 6. My Ducati gives me all the speed I need. 10 extra ponies and 10 extra lb/ft, along with improved throttle response, is well worth $250 to $300. Yeah, we're aware that one can just "turn the screw" on any turbo car from a Neon to a Sube to a BMW and go faster cheaply...we know...and still we chose to drive NA cars, imagine that!!! Attached Images
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Fireflyer239 First Lieutenant 19 Rep 349 Posts Drives: BMW, Jeep, Ducati & Harley Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Haven, CT iTrader: (0)	N52 Tune Aaaaanyway...my N52 tune arrived today from Andrew at EMS (a BMS dealer). It's one of a few early-production units Terry put out to get some feedback and get the ball rolling. Waiting for him to post install intructions early next week. I'll post results.
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e82vette Captain 25 Rep 627 Posts Drives: 128i Join Date: May 2009 Location: Seattle iTrader: (1)	only pre-order? would like to hear experience first
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crex Captain 53 Rep 659 Posts Drives: bmw 135i, Jeep wrangler Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NOVA iTrader: (1)	I actually love the 128i too even though I own a 135i. So I visit frequently to see if anyone was ever able to add the 3 stage manifold and ring out the 255 horsies. It is a great engine, just annoys me that bmw intentionally detuned it.
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10-18-2009, 08:54 AM	#9
Evice Major 194 Rep 1,457 Posts Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere here iTrader: (1)	I really would like to see couple more dyno pulls about this product. But the gain is a little weaker, if it was 20-25HP, I'd be sending in my payment rightnow! In addition, just like Crex mentioned, we still have lots of play room to pull that 35 HP because of detuned engine. I want the 130i's power. __________________ My Track Videos
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Fireflyer239 First Lieutenant 19 Rep 349 Posts Drives: BMW, Jeep, Ducati & Harley Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Haven, CT iTrader: (0)	I think there's more to it though; although the basic engine is the same, I've heard the intake manifold may not be the same as the 130, and then there's the mechanicals of the valvetronic system which may be different(?) Yeah it would be great if we could get back all of the "lost" 30 ponies for sure. I would not trust just any company with the electronics of my new vehicle, but Terry/BMS have an outstanding record and reputation, with close to 2000 of the JB3's out there (for the 135's). And, as Terry mentions repeatedly, this is not just about peak power, but also throttle response being greatly improved from the stock "molasses" feel. Most German cars I've driven seem to feel this way, and while it seems okay on a 5-cylinder Jetta, I'd prefer crisp response with my 128. Countless reviewers of the "Sprint Booster" product say it's a "must have" for the increased response and driving enjoyment, and this new BMS tune will incorporate the same improvement - along with the power and torque increases - for $279. If you can afford a $30K+ vehicle, this seems very reasonable. As I've mentioned in other posts, I plan to do some informal before/after (and hopefully accurate) roll-on accel tests. I will do them on the same stretch or road (you know that's no prob since here in CT we just have so many miles and miles of long straight open road, lol) and try to do them on the same day so the weather conditions will be the same, since that makes an appreciable difference. Maybe a cool dry night!
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supraking Captain 49 Rep 759 Posts Drives: 128i Coupe 6MT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Montreal iTrader: (0) Garage List 2009 128i Coupe [0.00]	I would love to install this in my 128i, but it's leased and it could obviously cause some problems if they ever found out I was using it. I know it says it can't be detected, but I'll wait to hear from other people for a few months (after winter's over) to make a decision. Really awesome news though, I'm glad the N52 is starting to get some much needed attention from tuners!
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Citizen Z Alpine Master 111 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: '08 135i AW Sport Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas iTrader: (1)	I wonder how a supercharger would adapt to the N52? It'd go great with a custom powerbuldge M3 style hood... __________________ Alpine White with Taupe Leather 135i, Sports Package, Heated Seats, Comfort Access, iPod Adapter Fastness: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252727
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10-19-2009, 12:18 PM	#16
McReary Private First Class 11 Rep 169 Posts Drives: 2008 AW 128i Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (1)	interested.. waiting on the test run feedback before i drop my pretty pennies
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10-19-2009, 05:56 PM	#17
janus77 Lieutenant 36 Rep 526 Posts Drives: 125i coupe Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Sydney iTrader: (0)	Same, will wait and see. A BMW performance guy who i got to install some parts reckoned best bang for buck power mod would be to get hold of a 130i intake manifold, and then reflash the ecu with 130i software. BUT.. this would be pretty expensive, the above option looks good for the cost. Very interested to hear how it goes. __________________ 125i, stick shift, M pack w/ 18's, 225/255 Z1's, saphire black, BMW CF rear spoiler, black interior, Midnight tint, business nav, sunroof, Injen intake, H&R sways.
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Mike@N54Tuning.com Joint Chiefs of Staff 4911 Rep 115,980 Posts Drives: 2007 335i, 2015 M3 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: N54tuning.com iTrader: (89)	Just got the full applications list from BMS E90 / E91 / E92 / E93 / E82 / E83 / E85 / E86 / E88 / E89 / E70 / E60 / E61 / E63 / E64 / E65 / E66 BMS Power Box USA Applications (N52) • E90/E91/E92/E93 325i/325xi Sedan, Touring, Coupé and Convertible • E90/E92/E93 328i/328xi Sedan, Coupé, (inc 4WD versions) and the Hardtop Convertible • E82 128i Coupé • E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E90 330i Sedan • E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé • E60/E61 528i/528xi Sedan and Touring (inc 4WD versions) • E85 Z4 3.0i Roadster • E60/E61 525i Sedan and Touring BMS Power Box European Applications (N52) • E90/E92/E93 330i/330Ci Sedan, Coupé and Hardtop Convertible • E82/E88 125i Coupé and Cabriolet • E60/E61 530i Sedan and Touring • E83 X3 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E70 X5 3.0si Sports Activity Vehicle • E85/E86 Z4 3.0si Roadster and Coupé • E89 Z4 sDrive30i • E63/E64 630i Sedan • E65/E66 730i Sedan • E60/E61 523i Sedan and Touring • E90 323i Sedan • E83 X3 2.5si Sports Activity Vehicle • E85 Z4 2.5si Roadster • E89 Z4 sDrive23i
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Fireflyer239 First Lieutenant 19 Rep 349 Posts Drives: BMW, Jeep, Ducati & Harley Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Haven, CT iTrader: (0)	Will be installing mine as soon as BMS posts the install instructions on their site. Went out and bought a cheap stopwatch at Sports Authority tonight, lol. Last edited by Fireflyer239; 10-19-2009 at 09:54 PM..
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Berduderunner drk one 38 Rep 797 Posts Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Tampa/Orlando iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 e90 335i [0.00] 2008 135i [0.00]	Very Cool! I'd LOVE to see a before/after 1/4 mile run from a 128!!! __________________ Jet Black \| Coral \| HighGlossBlack \| Steptronic \| Premium \| Sport \| Comfort \| ActiveSteering \| Navi \| HiFi \| HD \| iPod \| SAT BMS JB3 v2.0 \| BMS DCI \| Berk Tech Sport Exhaust \| UR * DPs \| CoolingMist Meth Kit w/ CMGS \| H&R OE Sport Springs \| Breyton GTS-R \| Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Specs \| GP Thunder 8000K Low Beams/Angel Eyes/Cornering Lights \| LED Interior Light Kit \| Window Tint \| Smoked Tail Lights \| Smoked License Plate Cover
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Fireflyer239 First Lieutenant 19 Rep 349 Posts Drives: BMW, Jeep, Ducati & Harley Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Haven, CT iTrader: (0)	Palm Treo (piece of shit, need to trade up). But I will do some roll-on accel's, just waiting for install instructions from Terry at BMS.
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