[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Pulled this list together but its definitely not complete as there alot of members here I don't know about in terms of numbers, etc. I will keep this updated if you post up a dyno chart. When you post your dyno if you could post your mods as well as I am sure a lot of members will be interested in what mods the top10 are running.

Some basic rules for the list.

1) Dynojet numbers only
2) STD correction
3) No nitrous or upgraded turbos but METH is okay
4) Numbers rounded down to the nearest whole number

I hope some more Proceed guys will post as I don't know your numbers as well as the JB3 numbers so the list should hopefully balance out once I get some numbers from you guys.

I know there are some GIAC numbers in the 420+ range. I think one car at 430 and another at 420. someone forward them to me.

Top 10 N54 Dynojet numbers (no nitrous, stock turbos)

Update list to this:

1. Terry@BMS, 456hp/451tq, JB3
2. JxK, 451hp/447tq, JB3
3. Shiv@Vishnu, 443hp/460, PROcede
4. Nick L, 439hp/448tq, no meth, JB3
5. Mark, 437hp/415tq, no meth, JB3
6. Ultimateracing 335 (John), 430hp/483tq, JB3
7. 124play (Shawn), 427hp/450tq, no meth, JB3
8. BrianMN, 422hp/468tq, no meth, PROcede
9. Down4IT, 417hp/416tq, no meth, JB3
10. davesakky135, 417hp/455tq, no meth, JB3
10. shyestsparks, 417hp/476tq, PROcede



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[forza1976]

Ah and the pissing match continues...

[Jake@MOTIV]

I think this is pointless. Unless you can show the baseline (map 0 / valet) maps these numbers are worthless. Ugh.

[Ron1n]

Originally Posted by FlyLow335i

I think this is pointless. Unless you can show the baseline (map 0 / valet) maps these numbers are worthless. Ugh.

One would think that the baseline per car isn't that far off...one baseline should suffice for the many. The 335i baseline is pretty common knowledge, and only varies by a small amount, so the deltas are already clear.

[Clap135]

I've seen bone stock cars ranging from 260 to 290....different dynos different Conditions ect ect so it def matters.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by Clap135

I've seen bone stock cars ranging from 260 to 290....different dynos different Conditions ect ect so it def matters.

You're right, but its just a guide to what these cars are pushing. Just like the 1/4 mile list there are variables like weather, track, etc. so you will never get a perfect comparison but I think its nice to put this together so people can see what others are doing and what mods it takes to get certain power number and track times.

The other option is to just post deltas if we have a baseline to try and normalize it a little bit?

Mike

[ianthegreat]

Originally Posted by Clap135

I've seen bone stock cars ranging from 260 to 290....different dynos different Conditions ect ect so it def matters.

The first procede, shivs.., is barely within your range so I think it's safe to say the JB3 (at least in that run) far surpassed the procede in power.

[Jake@MOTIV]

Originally Posted by Ron1n

One would think that the baseline per car isn't that far off...one baseline should suffice for the many. The 335i baseline is pretty common knowledge, and only varies by a small amount, so the deltas are already clear.

Very wrong. I miss the days when people posted only what they actually knew things about Not knocking you but so much misinfo gets posted and people take it as truth.

I dyno'd 252 stock. That will be a much lower number tuned than a car that dyno'd 290 stock. 38whp is a decent diff in my book.

[jpsimon]

Originally Posted by Ron1n

One would think that the baseline per car isn't that far off...one baseline should suffice for the many. The 335i baseline is pretty common knowledge, and only varies by a small amount, so the deltas are already clear.

Completely incorrect. You see dynojet baselines as high as 290-300whp sometimes on here. Dynojets can vary between one another as much as different kinds of dynos vary. There is a dynojet near my house which reads as "low" as mustang dynos (as in a stock 335xi puts down 250whp) and a different dynojet about 30 minutes away which reads 25-30whp higher.

Unless every dyno posted in this thread was done on the same day on the same dyno, it's completely pointless.


If you're going to post up numbers you might as well post up exactly what their baseline on that same dyno (most important)/conditons/mods/boost/octane the cars were running in to make the list more than completely misleading.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

If you're going to post up numbers you might as well post up exactly what their baseline on that same dyno (most important)/conditons/mods/boost/octane the cars were running in to make the list more than completely misleading.

Hopefully people can post the info and I will update the list accordingly.

Mike

[dzenno]

pointless thread honestly, mike you know it but i do see the marketing behind it

[BrianMN]

I don't think it's that pointless...probably cause I'm on it haha.

My baseline is 265hp 280tq

Thanks for putting the list together Mike

It might also help to clarify which cars are running meth and race gas, just as you wrote who is not running those.

[ETS Michael]

I like seeing the Dyno Jet only. This will make sure an added correction factor is not used.

[blubyu]

I swear people will do everything they can in attempt to better market themselves. You forgot a big key ingredient in your list and thats gas octane, bolt ons, baseline, and dyno graphs. No one cares if a car made xxx or xxx if its a cheap 100rpm spike. Some veterans in the car world can see past the peak numbers and "hidden" marketing tactics.

And for the record I don't have either tunes so I'm not supporting one or the other in this soon to be pissing contest.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by blubyu

I swear people will do everything they can in attempt to better market themselves. You forgot a big key ingredient in your list and thats gas octane, bolt ons, baseline, and dyno graphs. No one cares if a car made xxx or xxx if its a cheap 100rpm spike. Some veterans in the car world can see past the peak numbers and "hidden" marketing tactics.

And for the record I don't have either tunes so I'm not supporting one or the other in this soon to be pissing contest.

+1
I've seen some of these "high" dyno graphs. If they were from my car, I'd hide them

[blubyu]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

+1
I've seen some of these "high" dyno graphs. If they were from my car, I'd hide them

Well too the rookies and kids its all about that peak number, sell them on that and they get their CC's out.

[Ron1n]

Originally Posted by FlyLow335i

Very wrong. I miss the days when people posted only what they actually knew things about Not knocking you but so much misinfo gets posted and people take it as truth.

I dyno'd 252 stock. That will be a much lower number tuned than a car that dyno'd 290 stock. 38whp is a decent diff in my book.

Originally Posted by jpsimon

Completely incorrect. You see dynojet baselines as high as 290-300whp sometimes on here. Dynojets can vary between one another as much as different kinds of dynos vary. There is a dynojet near my house which reads as "low" as mustang dynos (as in a stock 335xi puts down 250whp) and a different dynojet about 30 minutes away which reads 25-30whp higher.

Unless every dyno posted in this thread was done on the same day on the same dyno, it's completely pointless.


If you're going to post up numbers you might as well post up exactly what their baseline on that same dyno (most important)/conditons/mods/boost/octane the cars were running in to make the list more than completely misleading.

So, by that virtue, posting what type of dyno would make more sense with the ambients, the barometric pressure, etc, rather than the baseline?

Both of you are a bit too aggressive on this point, and one of you needs to work on how to present your opinions a little better.

I miss when people had a little respect for other people instead of showing a blatant lack of it.

At the end of the day, it's accepted pretty much across the board that the baseline is pretty close to BMW's claims of 300bhp/300 lb/ft, so there's really no need to debate the baseline, which was my original point. Thank you both for missing it.

And, most importantly, you're missing the point of the thread, which is more fun than anything else. Me thinks thou doth protest WAY too much.

[swinster]

This stuff is funny....always Terry and Shiv followers gettin all pissed at each other over, and over, and over.......both you guys should be making quite a bit of money by now.

[jpsimon]

No one is debating any baselines... dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing without a baseline and since that baseline can vary completely from dynojet to dynojet (30-35whp) it is 100% necessary to not only post up the conditons/mods/octane/boost, but also what the baseline was on that specific dyno.

Compare the deltas along with conditions/octane/boost if you want to have any kind of conversation on the matter.

Originally Posted by Ron1n

So, by that virtue, posting what type of dyno would make more sense with the ambients, the barometric pressure, etc, rather than the baseline?

Both of you are a bit too aggressive on this point, and one of you needs to work on how to present your opinions a little better.

I miss when people had a little respect for other people instead of showing a blatant lack of it.

At the end of the day, it's accepted pretty much across the board that the baseline is pretty close to BMW's claims of 300bhp/300 lb/ft, so there's really no need to debate the baseline, which was my original point. Thank you both for missing it.

And, most importantly, you're missing the point of the thread, which is more fun than anything else. Me thinks thou doth protest WAY too much.

[Tiz113]

Originally Posted by forza1976

Ah and the pissing match continues...

+1

[Tiago@VRSF]

This is how Mike combats Autotuning lol.

These threads are dumb. Post a thread about your products features, not this useless garbage.

[Ron1n]

Originally Posted by jpsimon

No one is debating any baselines... dyno numbers mean absolutely nothing without a baseline and since that baseline can vary completely from dynojet to dynojet (30-35whp) it is 100% necessary to not only post up the conditons/mods/octane/boost, but also what the baseline was on that specific dyno.

Compare the deltas along with conditions/octane/boost if you want to have any kind of conversation on the matter.

Fine, if that's what you want, you can go around and find the dyno sheets that show that information, since you're so intent on being a hardass about it.

Otherwise, just enjoy the numbers being put up.