Video: BMW 1M vs CSL on the Nurburgring

Advevo · 08-01-2011, 01:05 PM

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Here is a lap behind a track prep CSL in my bog standard 1M coupe.

Some more info.

The guy in the CSL has done lots of laps more then 1000 but is no racing driver. I have done about only 80 laps in total or so. But i am racing driver and adapt very fast to new tracks. If i had more laps under my belt i could go easy under 8 minutes BTG. I really doubt the 7.50 CSL ring time the 1M is pretty close already there no 25 sec difference. Mount some pilot sport cups on the 1M and there is not much in it.

I was driving in M mode and DSC off. Everything else was off factory.

The seats don t give enough support on track and you still sitting to high in car. On long journey s to the ring the seats are perfect. So it s all compromise. And you can swap seats for race shells seats easily if you wish.

The M3 CSL has:

Rollcage
pilots sport cups on 18 inch wheels
Better coil over suspension
Big brakes
race seats and harness
Titan exhaust with race cats

Official Sport Auto ring times are:

M3 CSL - 7:50
BMW 1M Coupe - 8:15

Jason · 08-01-2011, 01:10 PM

Great clip and driving Andre!

Thanks for sharing.

OdomPHD · 08-01-2011, 01:11 PM

What I wouldn't give to be in a 1M coupe, screwing with a CSL mule driver on THE track.

That would make my entire month. Thanks for the post!!

EDIT: I thought it was a current gen M3 CSL in testing (to explain my calling the driver a mule). Either way, it was awesome to watch!

mPlasticDesign · 08-01-2011, 01:15 PM

That red Porsche was not messing around!

bmw13 · 08-01-2011, 01:23 PM

amazing! Thanks for sharing!

I personally and having problems getting that oh-so right seating position in my 1M... any pointers on how to really feel engaged with the vehicle. Obviously your seats vary from this car to your Porsche, how do you seat yourself when getting into a vehicle for the first time? Do you feel it out or do you have any tricks up your sleeve that make the process an easier one...

EINSER M · 08-01-2011, 01:23 PM

hey that was fun, how come it cut off on that last straight?!?!

v1k0d3n · 08-01-2011, 01:24 PM

those motorcycle riders have HUGE balls!

did i see wrong...no helmet?

v1k0d3n · 08-01-2011, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ///Metak

That red Porsche was not messing around!

+1

ADVANT123 · 08-01-2011, 01:26 PM

Great video!

Jet Mech · 08-01-2011, 01:29 PM

Great vid!!!! Was that a E90 M3 CSL you passed about midway?

MrRoboto · 08-01-2011, 01:32 PM

Fantastic Advevo! May I ask, were you in M dynamic mode?

MrRoboto · 08-01-2011, 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jet Mech

Great vid!!!! Was that a E90 M3 CSL you passed about midway?

No such thing....I think you mean M3 GTS.

TunedM2C · 08-01-2011, 01:42 PM

Great vid! Any ideas what mods the CSL had? How are the PS2's holding up tread wise? lol

Advevo · 08-01-2011, 02:00 PM

so far i know the CSL has.

Rollcage
pilots sport cups on 18 inch wheels
Better coil over suspension
Big brakes
race seats and harness
Titan exhaust with race cats

lol the PS2 are looking good still

pearlwhites · 08-01-2011, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jason

Great clip and driving Andre!

Thanks for sharing.

1000. Looks like fun!

snipe · 08-01-2011, 02:21 PM

Great video, Andre. Epic!

Would be nice if the camera was just a little bit higher. Can you put a cage in your car? ;-)

BimmerMat135 · 08-01-2011, 02:31 PM

What kind of times you are doing around the ring with the 1M?

Advevo · 08-01-2011, 02:35 PM

This was an 8.15 but with traffic and one accident.

The accident cost me about 8 to 10 secs. And then add the traffic to it. Which proberly cost me an other 10 sec in total in the complete lap. So a lap BTG under 8 min could have been.

KIYO · 08-01-2011, 02:38 PM

Amazing video!
Have you mounted your camera on the head rest bar?
I saw it very stable. No vibration.

bdaddylo · 08-01-2011, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

No such thing....I think you mean M3 GTS.

He's referencing the E90 M3 CRT. The public thougth BMW was going to use the CSL designation but decided to use CRT instead.

Advevo · 08-01-2011, 02:46 PM

i use a Gopro with roll cage mount. And made some changes to the roll bar mount to get grip on the headrest piping. I made one mistake though. I should have put the seat in the highest position.

Romo · 08-01-2011, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Advevo

This was an 8.15 but with traffic and one accident.

The accident cost me about 8 to 10 secs. And then add the traffic to it. Which proberly cost me an other 10 sec in total in the complete lap. So a lap BTG under 8 min could have been.

Howcome BMW is so conservative with 8:15 BTG.......??

That said; is the 7:50 for the CSL also on the safe side??

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Advevo Banned 583 Rep 1,170 Posts Drives: M2 Competition, E30 M3 DTM Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Country where the taxes are too high!! iTrader: (0)	Video: BMW 1M vs CSL on the Nurburgring Featured on BIMMERPOST.com Featured on 1ADDICTS HOMEPAGE. Here is a lap behind a track prep CSL in my bog standard 1M coupe. Some more info. The guy in the CSL has done lots of laps more then 1000 but is no racing driver. I have done about only 80 laps in total or so. But i am racing driver and adapt very fast to new tracks. If i had more laps under my belt i could go easy under 8 minutes BTG. I really doubt the 7.50 CSL ring time the 1M is pretty close already there no 25 sec difference. Mount some pilot sport cups on the 1M and there is not much in it. I was driving in M mode and DSC off. Everything else was off factory. The seats don t give enough support on track and you still sitting to high in car. On long journey s to the ring the seats are perfect. So it s all compromise. And you can swap seats for race shells seats easily if you wish. The M3 CSL has: Rollcage pilots sport cups on 18 inch wheels Better coil over suspension Big brakes race seats and harness Titan exhaust with race cats Official Sport Auto ring times are: M3 CSL - 7:50 BMW 1M Coupe - 8:15 Last edited by Advevo; 08-01-2011 at 01:57 PM..
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Advevo Banned 583 Rep 1,170 Posts Drives: M2 Competition, E30 M3 DTM Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Country where the taxes are too high!! iTrader: (0)	so far i know the CSL has. Rollcage pilots sport cups on 18 inch wheels Better coil over suspension Big brakes race seats and harness Titan exhaust with race cats lol the PS2 are looking good still
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Advevo Banned 583 Rep 1,170 Posts Drives: M2 Competition, E30 M3 DTM Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Country where the taxes are too high!! iTrader: (0)	This was an 8.15 but with traffic and one accident. The accident cost me about 8 to 10 secs. And then add the traffic to it. Which proberly cost me an other 10 sec in total in the complete lap. So a lap BTG under 8 min could have been.
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Advevo Banned 583 Rep 1,170 Posts Drives: M2 Competition, E30 M3 DTM Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Country where the taxes are too high!! iTrader: (0)	i use a Gopro with roll cage mount. And made some changes to the roll bar mount to get grip on the headrest piping. I made one mistake though. I should have put the seat in the highest position.
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