GIAC 1M Software Flash Coming Soon...HPA at GIAC - Page 3 - BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)

MrRoboto · 07-15-2011, 09:30 AM

Nice power all the way to redline.

HP Autowerks · 07-15-2011, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by flipm3

WOW! That is a very impressive power gain! That is a good amount more than some of the other tunes out there for this car.

I love how the top end doesn't fall like it does in stock form. Very impressive work to you and GIAC! Any plans for a Stage 2 or results with 92 octane?

Yes, we have plans for stage 2, but first the hardware must be upgraded to support it - Intake, FMIC and DP.

There is enough timing advance built into the 91 pump flash to accomodate 92, you will just make slightly more power.

HP Autowerks · 08-04-2011, 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrRoboto

Nice power all the way to redline.

GIAC worked very hard at this to make this kind of power smoothly and keep the throttle from closing to make power on the top end. You will see with some other tunes even though they make more power, but it's very peaky(looks good only if you are a numbers person) and there is less on top since they can not control throttle closure.

M1one1M · 08-08-2011, 11:49 PM

When is your stage 2 planned?

HP Autowerks · 08-09-2011, 12:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1one1M

When is your stage 2 planned?

When all supporting hardware modifications are done.

GIAC will not risk doing stage 2 on a car without the proper hardware to support it.

M1one1M · 08-09-2011, 12:49 AM

In that case, whose DP's, Intercooler and airbox are you planning on using. PM if you would prefer.

HP Autowerks · 08-09-2011, 08:38 PM

GIAC Stage1 for 1M is ready to flash!

M1one1M · 08-09-2011, 09:36 PM

whose DP's, Intercooler and airbox are you planning on using. PM if you would prefer.

HP Autowerks · 02-23-2012, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M1one1M

whose DP's, Intercooler and airbox are you planning on using. PM if you would prefer.

At stage 1...stock DP, stock FMIC with AFE Stage 2 intake.

HP Autowerks · 02-17-2013, 03:32 AM

For those looking for Dynojet numbers on GIAC Stage 2...

flipm3 · 02-17-2013, 02:17 PM

HOLY SMOKES!!

Would it be possible to see a graph with SAE and Smoothing 4, then another with conditions?
Could you elaborate on the supporting modifications as well?

AMAZING RESULTS!!

E30 Racer · 02-17-2013, 09:31 PM

I believe FBO + race fuel was used to achieve those impressive numbers.

KennyPowers · 02-17-2013, 10:11 PM

^^^

It would also be a lot more useful to post results on the same day / dyno session with stock programming. This should have been easily doable with the giac program switching abilities

Without that data, the dyno plot is a whole lot less useful and I wouldn't read a ton into it.

HP Autowerks · 02-17-2013, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

^^^

It would also be a lot more useful to post results on the same day / dyno session with stock programming. This should have been easily doable with the giac program switching abilities

Without that data, the dyno plot is a whole lot less useful and I wouldn't read a ton into it.

Here you go! Stock, Stage 1 and Stage 1 race fuel on the same day AND stock, Stage 2 and Stage 2 race fuel.

The Dynojet numbers was posted at the request of many 1M owners. I am personally fine with Mustang dyno numbers.

4thM3 · 02-18-2013, 02:17 AM

My planned hardware upgrades include, mad-dad midpipe, FMIC, intake and maybe upgraded oil cooler. No plan for to change downpipe for a variety of reasons. Will these mods. support a stage 2 tune or is the downpipe an essential component of the tune?

Also more interested in reliability and safeguarding engine life than absolutely maxing power output. What's GIAC's approach to engine protection (increased water pump pressure or ?)

Sounds like great progress.

HP Autowerks · 02-18-2013, 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thM3

My planned hardware upgrades include, mad-dad midpipe, FMIC, intake and maybe upgraded oil cooler. No plan for to change downpipe for a variety of reasons. Will these mods. support a stage 2 tune or is the downpipe an essential component of the tune?

Also more interested in reliability and safeguarding engine life than absolutely maxing power output. What's GIAC's approach to engine protection (increased water pump pressure or ?)

Sounds like great progress.

Yes, your hardware mods will support Stage 2 with the exception of not having a higher flow rear muffler. DP is not required as the 1M comes from the factory with higher flow version of the N54 DP's.

You are not even close on maxing out the performance of the N54 at Stage 2 on pump or race fuel mode. All parameters are monitors during the R&D process(GIAC used my personal 1M with 2000 miles on it), this is a complete DME flash, not a signal modifier or map changer like the JB or Proceed product.

Evolution Racewerks, Berk Technology and our 335i were all on GIAC's N54 flash for Redline Time Attack with zero reports of any issues. That was putting GIAC to the ultimate test and it passed with flying colors on three different vehicles with very different hardware mods.

4thM3 · 02-19-2013, 01:18 AM

Let me know when the Stage II is available and the cost.

thx Harold

HP Autowerks · 02-26-2013, 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4thM3

Let me know when the Stage II is available and the cost.

thx Harold

Stage 2 GIAC is ready and flashing now at your GIAC dealer!

Prices here:

http://www.hpashop.com/GIAC-1M-BMW-P...are-bmw-1m.htm

Em/1 · 02-26-2013, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

Yes, your hardware mods will support Stage 2 with the exception of not having a higher flow rear muffler. DP is not required as the 1M comes from the factory with higher flow version of the N54 DP's.

You are not even close on maxing out the performance of the N54 at Stage 2 on pump or race fuel mode. All parameters are monitors during the R&D process(GIAC used my personal 1M with 2000 miles on it), this is a complete DME flash, not a signal modifier or map changer like the JB or Proceed product.

Evolution Racewerks, Berk Technology and our 335i were all on GIAC's N54 flash for Redline Time Attack with zero reports of any issues. That was putting GIAC to the ultimate test and it passed with flying colors on three different vehicles with very different hardware mods.

My impression has been that midpipe improves flow more than the muffler mods and that even N54 would be more effective, other than sound, than change in axle back. Also, what axle back and intake were these numbers obtained with (very impressive curves, by the way--love the high end power!)

HP Autowerks · 02-26-2013, 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Em/1

My impression has been that midpipe improves flow more than the muffler mods and that even N54 would be more effective, other than sound, than change in axle back. Also, what axle back and intake were these numbers obtained with (very impressive curves, by the way--love the high end power!)

Mad Dad Mids
Borla Axle Back
AFE Sealed Single Cone

AFE intake has zero restrictions as tested at GIAC, one of the best intakes out there!

GIAC is working on a new Stage 2, should be smoother with more power. Stay tuned!!!

ozinaldo · 02-27-2013, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

GIAC is working on a new Stage 2, should be smoother with more power. Stay tuned!!!

Got me excited

02-17-2013, 03:32 AM	#54
HP Autowerks Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 135i DCT & 2011 1M Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, AST, Brembo, Eibach, H&R, GIAC, Koni, Quaife, Stoptech, Vorshlag, Posts: 10,052 iTrader: (26)	For those looking for Dynojet numbers on GIAC Stage 2... Attached Images

02-17-2013, 02:17 PM	#55
flipm3 E46 + E90 Drives: E46 M3 + E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Illinois Posts: 2,486 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2009 BMW M3 [0.00] 2002 BMW M3 [0.00]	HOLY SMOKES!! Would it be possible to see a graph with SAE and Smoothing 4, then another with conditions? Could you elaborate on the supporting modifications as well? AMAZING RESULTS!! __________________ 2002 E46 M3 6MT \| Jet Black . Black Nappa \| My Build Thread 2009 E90 M3 DCT \| Melbourne Red . Speed Cloth

Thread Tools	Search this Thread
Show Printable Version Email this Page	Search this Thread: Advanced Search

07-15-2011, 09:30 AM	#45
MrRoboto Colonel Drives: VO 1M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Canada Posts: 2,600 iTrader: (0)	Nice power all the way to redline.

08-08-2011, 11:49 PM	#48
M1one1M Banned Drives: nothing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 197 iTrader: (0)	When is your stage 2 planned?

08-09-2011, 12:49 AM	#50
M1one1M Banned Drives: nothing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 197 iTrader: (0)	In that case, whose DP's, Intercooler and airbox are you planning on using. PM if you would prefer.

08-09-2011, 08:38 PM	#51
HP Autowerks Lieutenant General Drives: 2011 135i DCT & 2011 1M Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Santa Barbara, AST, Brembo, Eibach, H&R, GIAC, Koni, Quaife, Stoptech, Vorshlag, Posts: 10,052 iTrader: (26)	GIAC Stage1 for 1M is ready to flash!

08-09-2011, 09:36 PM	#52
M1one1M Banned Drives: nothing Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Australia Posts: 197 iTrader: (0)	whose DP's, Intercooler and airbox are you planning on using. PM if you would prefer.

02-17-2013, 09:31 PM	#56
E30 Racer Private First Class Drives: '11 1M, '99 540i/6, '89 325is Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Ohio Posts: 169 iTrader: (1)	I believe FBO + race fuel was used to achieve those impressive numbers.

02-17-2013, 10:11 PM	#57
KennyPowers Lieutenant Colonel Drives: BMW Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Gulf Coast Posts: 1,884 iTrader: (11)	^^^ It would also be a lot more useful to post results on the same day / dyno session with stock programming. This should have been easily doable with the giac program switching abilities Without that data, the dyno plot is a whole lot less useful and I wouldn't read a ton into it.

02-18-2013, 02:17 AM	#59
4thM3 Private First Class Drives: 2011 AW 1M Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marin County, CA Posts: 105 iTrader: (0)	My planned hardware upgrades include, mad-dad midpipe, FMIC, intake and maybe upgraded oil cooler. No plan for to change downpipe for a variety of reasons. Will these mods. support a stage 2 tune or is the downpipe an essential component of the tune? Also more interested in reliability and safeguarding engine life than absolutely maxing power output. What's GIAC's approach to engine protection (increased water pump pressure or ?) Sounds like great progress.

02-19-2013, 01:18 AM	#61
4thM3 Private First Class Drives: 2011 AW 1M Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Marin County, CA Posts: 105 iTrader: (0)	Let me know when the Stage II is available and the cost. thx Harold