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01-23-2009, 12:35 AM | #67 |
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is it just me? Or is this thread full of 135i folks criticizing this option. Obviously it is not the most practical route versus the 135i, but who cares, power is power and if that's what you like go ahead and do it. It appears to me that this thread is full of a bunch of 135i folk who in some way fear the forced induction 128i infringing on their having the superior e8x model :iono:
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It's just that if you want more power you may as well trade up to a 135i instead. I cant imagine that much of a difference in price and will probably be less hassle in the end.
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I wouldnt take the chance with such a pricey car. Its not like your slapping a SC on a $4,000 car. Stack up on the cash reserves if this is really your thing.
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I bought the 128i because I thought it was enough power,(remember the 95-99 M3 was 240 hp and people though that was great), I really thought i needed a new car, and the economy sucks, so the 128i seemed to be way more modest than getting a 135i.
I was out the door for barely $30k with sport package and heated seats, w/ 0.9% financing and only $500 down. Other real options to the 128i were of coure the base WRX, the volvo 30 hot hatch, the mini cooper S or works even, I found out later the accord coupe has 263 hp, but it will always be a front driver. So Now, I am sometimes wishing for more power; But not enough to void my warrenty with an aftermaket supercharger, actually not even enough to pop $2k more for the performance intake and exhaust. I'll probably get the short shiter, as I have done that with 7 of the previous 9 BMW's i have owned over my lifetime. However to go fast, I went out and bought an aprilia Tuono 1000cc 130hp, 430 pound italian motorcycle. ( w/ a 200 lb rider thats translates to over 400hp per ton) It was $5k used, and 0-60 is about 3.2 for the skilled racer and about 4 for mere mortals like myself. So if i loose my job, I can always sell my motorcycle , even just for $4k, and have money to survive. If i bought a supercharger for the 128i, (or other performance parts) I'd never see that money again, and with the SC void the entire car warranty. the 128i is a very nice car, and is better than the e36 M3 in some regards, and costs less NEW than i paid for my '95 e36 M3 certified USED in 99!!!!. With the sport pack, I really think all it needs is the short shift and wider front tire to dial out the understeer, and/or probably the thick rear sway bar for the same reason. After that you're just playing foolishly with your money. enjoy the car for what it is, and put some money in the bank. |
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I don't plan on doing any FI on my car due to the fact of simple science.... the more horsepower you try and squeeze out of a car the more mechanical problems are likely to occur.... seen people blow $40k in a week for nothing and I just sit back and laugh because some people think they are engineers... as of right now I dont even trust most cars that come with turbos already in them..... once i see them consistently lasting 130k+ miles then ill begin to change my mind
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Iv been around... Just got back from Germany thanks... didnt see many turbo cars getting over 100k miles on them well diesels but they are in a totally different section... iv watched enough people destroy there cars with FI.... you go ahead and squeeze as much hp out of ur car as u can and call me when it breaks down.... then again ur fuel pump will prolly fail before anything else hahaha
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^ are you trying to say the 128 is better than a 135, and a NA motor is better than FI?
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It's always fun to speculate but I wouldn't expect any SC'ed 128/328/528's for several years. Once they're well out of warantee and people start picking up e9x's and e82's as track/autocross cars you'll probably find a few people stuffing in a SC. In the meantime it would make a lot more sense to pick up a 135 if you want FI. |
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turbocharging has been around for decades in passenger cars, large trucks, and locomotives. they last just as long as naturally aspirated engines. 130k miles is nothing for most motors.
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and the comment about "an NA car 'fully tuned' are better than FI 'fully tuned' " - "better" is an extremely subjective term. in what ways is an NA motor "better" then an FI motor? turbo cars are capable of MUCH more horsepower than a NA car.
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(Figures Taken From BMW Websites) Models Engine Displacement Power Torque Redline Year N52B25 2.5 L (2497 cc/152 in³) 130 kW (174 hp) @ 5800 230 N·m (170 ft·lbf) @ 3500-5000 7000 rpm 2005 160 kW (215 hp) @ 6500 250 N·m (184 ft·lbf) @ 2750-4250 7000 rpm 2005 N52B30 3.0 L (2996 cc/182 in³) 190 kW (255 hp) @ 6600 300 N·m (221 ft·lbf) @ 2500-4000 7000 rpm 2004 195 kW (265 hp) @ 6600 315 N·m (232 ft·lbf) @ 2750-4250 7000 rpm 2005 200 kW (272 hp) @ 6650 315 N·m (232 ft·lbf) @ 2750-4250 7000 rpm 2006 (Figures Taken From BMW Websites) hmmm sad to say i could see an EASY 272hp 128i w/o any turbos at all so with a nicely tuned n52 engine you can get 28hp less than a car with a slightly larger engine and turbos... i could see a 300hp 128i...... |
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hmm i wanna see if anyone catches a small mistake i made above
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Is it when you said the 135i has a slightly larger engine?
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