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      07-20-2009, 03:14 PM   #23
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Let me get this straight - a 3200lb car with 430whp can barely pull a 4100lb 440whp/~340wtq car?

Sounds like your turbos producing 2x the airflow of the stockers are doing wonders.....

Wow big talk from a no name company who has never made a turbo kit.
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"barely pull" = less than a car. M5's are highway monsters, you won't be seeing stock turbo 135/335's pulling on a car like that at those speeds. AR, where's your kit? oh right, ASR is the only one that has a good looking kit for sale at this time.
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      07-20-2009, 03:16 PM   #25
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Wow big talk from a no name company who has never made a turbo kit.
No name company? I hope you're kidding.

Never made a turbo kit? You can come see the 3 boosted cars in the shop right now if you want....
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      07-20-2009, 03:19 PM   #27
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No name company? I hope you're kidding.

Never made a turbo kit? You can come see the 3 boosted cars in the shop right now if you want....
Sorry I forgot how world renowned AR design is. But seriously my apologies on claiming you guys have no turbo kits if that isn't the case. What cars do you guys make kits for?

I've looked at your website and all I see is downpipes, rods, and the world famous gaskets.
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"barely pull" = less than a car. M5's are highway monsters, you won't seeing stock turbo 135/335's pulling on a car like that at those speeds. AR, where's your kit? oh right, ASR is the only one that has a good looking kit for sale at this time.
I'd bet money a 50 or 75 shot would pull harder than those upgraded turbos.

Show me 1 car other than their shop car running the setup. Then I will show you the setup being tested on our car

You can bash on me all you want, but at the end of the day, pulling 1.5 cars on a car with less torque and 10whp more that weights 900lbs more isn't exactly impressive.
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Ive seen a 335i full bolt ons on race gas run dead even with a stock M5 to 135 mph then the little turbos get weak and m5 will start to pull slightly.
In case anyone missed it.
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Let me get this straight - a 3200lb car with 430whp can barely pull a 4100lb 440whp/~340wtq car?

Sounds like your turbos producing 2x the airflow of the stockers are doing wonders.....


You're not very bright are you? People if you're bringing your car to this kid based on his logic stated above, good luck to you! Maybe if you were knowledgable enough about S85's, their powerband, and their gearing you'd have a leg to stand on. Oh I forgot you don't work on M5's. Stop your trolling and don't make me pick up the phone again and school you like I did last time.
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I have nothing against you (had your downpipes been out when i needed them i would have gone that route), but your "big talk" is pretty lame. You're losing more and more credibility with each post in this thread. Clearly you have alternate motives here.

Comparing the power to a "50 or 75 shot".. come on now. That's just a dumb argument to begin with.


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I'd bet money a 50 or 75 shot would pull harder than those upgraded turbos.

Show me 1 car other than their shop car running the setup. Then I will show you the setup being tested on our car
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You're not very bright are you? People if you're bringing your car to this kid based on his logic stated above, good luck to you! Maybe if you were knowledgable enough about S85's, their powerband, and their gearing you'd have a leg to stand on. Oh I forgot you don't work on M5's. Stop your trolling and don't make me pick up the phone again and school you like I did last time.
If you call yelling at me for 20 minutes on the phone about how 20G turbos can make 500whp, which they dont, "schooling", feel free. I'll just hang up. If you want to bring that car out here with $5,000 cash, I will show you what a small shot of nitrous will do to your "upgrades". After we are done with your "schooling", I'll grab the Corvette, and show you what a proper twin turbo setup can do, in terms of bus-lengths, not car lengths

In case you missed it, your flow data was 100% bogus, and the charts you claimed were unobtanium are now a sticky on this very forum.

And if you were working on M5s all day, you probably could afford the $169 a month it costs to sponsor this board instead of posting marketing material without paying any fees. Maybe this "kid" who has been sponsoring E90post for what, a year maybe, is making more money than you, since you apparently can't afford it?
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I have nothing against you (had your downpipes been out when i needed them i would have gone that route), but your "big talk" is pretty lame.

Comparing the power to a "50 or 75 shot".. come on now. That's just a dumb argument to begin.
How is that a dumb argument?
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