Track Video: Epic battle with M3

jeremydgreat · 11-14-2010, 08:45 PM

Had a great time at the track yesterday at Chuckwalla Valley Raceway. This video is pretty long, but I thought I'd capture about 4 or 5 laps where a brand new M3 and I (in a 135i) got into quite a little battle. We were basically neck and neck. I even had to lift (stop accelerating) when I got close a couple times. But then, coming out of the corners, he was able to pick up speed much more quickly. Both of us were holding similar lines, except for when we came out of the bowl. As you'll see, I ran it wide while he tucked in on the exit to set up for the next turn.

HD VERSION HERE:

I had some driving lessons yesterday too. Never had any training and WOW... have I picked up some horrible habits. The person who taught me to drive stick shift, said "never let the clutch out without pressing the gas pedal or being in neutral." So for TEN YEARS I've been doing that, even on the track. So, at the track, I've been braking before turns, and shifting into gear while in the middle of a turn. Down-shifting ("engine braking") wasn't in my vocabulary. Now, as I brake before the big turns I hit the brake and let the clutch out, shifting into a lower gear right before turning in. It slows the car down and allows me to get onto the throttle and hold moderate acceleration throughout the turn. This increases traction and prepares the car to blast out of the corner sooner. Amazing! It still feels so wrong to let the clutch out while my right foot is still on the brake though.

Anyway, it was a really great day. I learned a ton.

Dackelone · 11-14-2010, 08:57 PM

cool video.

I think if you had a LSD you might be able to get around him.

jeremydgreat · 11-14-2010, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

cool video.

I think if you had a LSD you might be able to get around him.

Or more power. Or sticky tires. I think any little advantage would have given me the edge. hehe.

A LSD is like, what, $1k + installation?

Evice · 11-14-2010, 09:25 PM

I really enjoyed your video. Great music choice, and I love the little comments pop up, they made me laugh.

One suggestion I can make along the lines of down-shifting before a turn, try to down-shift where the car's rpm is lowest you want for the corner in order to save some life on your tranny, and also it will make your life easier on the rev. matching.

One story: I remember almost sand trapping my self in china beach at mid-ohio while trying to focus on my rev matching, but not braking! It was the scariest moments of all of my track weekends.

Work on compressing your braking zones, slowly increase the speeds on your turn ins and you will get that sucker M3 !

pixelblue · 11-14-2010, 09:38 PM

nice track! wish my local track had runoffs like that. probably would let me be bolder driving closer to the limits. wish I lived in west coast. damn, year round track season. isn't it spring yet already?

fly135 · 11-14-2010, 11:40 PM

Great video dude...very entertaining. Nice driving too.

1trip5 · 11-14-2010, 11:53 PM

epic? no.

cool? yes.

Lloyd · 11-15-2010, 12:44 AM

most epic part of your video is that your 135i is equipped with a V-6

the M3's lines are messy at best

sb335is · 11-15-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by imported_pinoy

most epic part of your video is that your 135i is equipped with a V-6

bimmer74 · 11-15-2010, 06:20 PM

I like your driving line more than the guy in the M3. He was going wide in a lot of corners, completely missing the apex. I am no expert but I think you did pretty well.

jeremydgreat · 11-15-2010, 07:21 PM

Yeah yeah yeah. I'm a new driver. Ease up haters.

jeremydgreat · 11-15-2010, 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by imported_pinoy

most epic part of your video is that your 135i is equipped with a V-6

the M3's lines are messy at best

DOH! Good catch. Yeah, my 135i was the only one they made with a V-6. It's like a special edition.

1SerieStud · 11-15-2010, 07:33 PM

Several things:

1) Awesome video! Thank you for sharing - I truly enjoyed the quality of the video and the music selection.

2) You drive a car with an inline 6 cylinder engine. No V here!

3) As others said, an LSD + stickier tires would have kept you right on that M3's booty.

4) The M3's driver does not know how to take a corner for the most part.

Great vid!

jeremydgreat · 11-15-2010, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by 1SerieStud

Several things:

1) Awesome video! Thank you for sharing - I truly enjoyed the quality of the video and the music selection.

2) You drive a car with an inline 6 cylinder engine. No V here!

3) As others said, an LSD + stickier tires would have kept you right on that M3's booty.

4) The M3's driver does not know how to take a corner for the most part.

Great vid!

Thanks!

And everyone, YES I know I messed up on the copy-pasting of car stats. Our cars don't have a V 6. I'm just too lazy to go back and edit, re-render, and re-upload.

11-14-2010, 08:45 PM	#1
jeremydgreat Captain 76 Rep 676 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA (Carlsbad to be exact) iTrader: (1)	Track Video: Epic battle with M3 Had a great time at the track yesterday at Chuckwalla Valley Raceway. This video is pretty long, but I thought I'd capture about 4 or 5 laps where a brand new M3 and I (in a 135i) got into quite a little battle. We were basically neck and neck. I even had to lift (stop accelerating) when I got close a couple times. But then, coming out of the corners, he was able to pick up speed much more quickly. Both of us were holding similar lines, except for when we came out of the bowl. As you'll see, I ran it wide while he tucked in on the exit to set up for the next turn. HD VERSION HERE: I had some driving lessons yesterday too. Never had any training and WOW... have I picked up some horrible habits. The person who taught me to drive stick shift, said "never let the clutch out without pressing the gas pedal or being in neutral." So for TEN YEARS I've been doing that, even on the track. So, at the track, I've been braking before turns, and shifting into gear while in the middle of a turn. Down-shifting ("engine braking") wasn't in my vocabulary. Now, as I brake before the big turns I hit the brake and let the clutch out, shifting into a lower gear right before turning in. It slows the car down and allows me to get onto the throttle and hold moderate acceleration throughout the turn. This increases traction and prepares the car to blast out of the corner sooner. Amazing! It still feels so wrong to let the clutch out while my right foot is still on the brake though. Anyway, it was a really great day. I learned a ton. __________________ 135i // M-Sports Package // RR Oil Catch Can // Black Kidneys // iCarbon Hood // Alum Pedals // KW v2 Coilovers // Vorshlag Camber Plates // Hotchkis Sway Bar // Wheel Studs. Best mod ever? Tires. 255's in front, 275's in back. Last edited by jeremydgreat; 11-15-2010 at 08:51 PM..
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Dackelone European Editor 10633 Rep 22,992 Posts Drives: N54 e82 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Bayern, Germany iTrader: (1)	cool video. I think if you had a LSD you might be able to get around him.
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Evice Major 194 Rep 1,457 Posts Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Somewhere here iTrader: (1)	I really enjoyed your video. Great music choice, and I love the little comments pop up, they made me laugh. One suggestion I can make along the lines of down-shifting before a turn, try to down-shift where the car's rpm is lowest you want for the corner in order to save some life on your tranny, and also it will make your life easier on the rev. matching. One story: I remember almost sand trapping my self in china beach at mid-ohio while trying to focus on my rev matching, but not braking! It was the scariest moments of all of my track weekends. Work on compressing your braking zones, slowly increase the speeds on your turn ins and you will get that sucker M3 ! __________________ My Track Videos
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11-14-2010, 09:38 PM	#5
pixelblue Colonel 140 Rep 2,234 Posts Drives: the silver bullet Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: northern virginia iTrader: (2) Garage List 2010 135i [8.90]	nice track! wish my local track had runoffs like that. probably would let me be bolder driving closer to the limits. wish I lived in west coast. damn, year round track season. isn't it spring yet already? __________________ "I would quote everything pixelblue said, but you've already read it. Take it from someone who's put the 1 through its paces"
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11-14-2010, 11:40 PM	#6
fly135 Private First Class 18 Rep 164 Posts Drives: 135i Coupe N55 Join Date: May 2010 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 135i [5.50]	Great video dude...very entertaining. Nice driving too.
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11-14-2010, 11:53 PM	#7
1trip5 Captain 48 Rep 627 Posts Drives: Emme Tres Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Dallas iTrader: (3) Garage List 2002 BMW M3 [0.00]	epic? no. cool? yes. __________________ E46 M3
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Lloyd Networking Geek 24 Rep 334 Posts Drives: 2014 Subaru STi 5dr Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Pembroke Pines, FL iTrader: (2) Garage List 2016 Lexus IS350 [0.00]	most epic part of your video is that your 135i is equipped with a V-6 the M3's lines are messy at best Last edited by Lloyd; 11-15-2010 at 12:49 AM..
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11-15-2010, 06:20 PM	#10
bimmer74 Second Lieutenant 7 Rep 212 Posts Drives: 2011 335i xDrive Sedan Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Massachusetts iTrader: (3)	I like your driving line more than the guy in the M3. He was going wide in a lot of corners, completely missing the apex. I am no expert but I think you did pretty well.
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11-15-2010, 07:21 PM	#11
jeremydgreat Captain 76 Rep 676 Posts Drives: 2009 135i Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: San Diego, CA (Carlsbad to be exact) iTrader: (1)	Yeah yeah yeah. I'm a new driver. Ease up haters. __________________ 135i // M-Sports Package // RR Oil Catch Can // Black Kidneys // iCarbon Hood // Alum Pedals // KW v2 Coilovers // Vorshlag Camber Plates // Hotchkis Sway Bar // Wheel Studs. Best mod ever? Tires. 255's in front, 275's in back.
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1SerieStud Brigadier General 184 Rep 3,939 Posts Drives: '11 VO 1M (498 of 740) Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Jacksonville, FL iTrader: (11)	Several things: 1) Awesome video! Thank you for sharing - I truly enjoyed the quality of the video and the music selection. 2) You drive a car with an inline 6 cylinder engine. No V here! 3) As others said, an LSD + stickier tires would have kept you right on that M3's booty. 4) The M3's driver does not know how to take a corner for the most part. Great vid!
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