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12-24-2010, 01:43 PM | #1 |
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New Suspension Review ST Coilovers VS. H&R Sport + Koni Yellows VS. H&R Sport + OEM
Hey guys, back with some new mods for my car, although it's not too visually noticeable, it's still worth reading. I don't do too many long posts without photos, but since this a review of some great products for out car, it will have to do so bear with me here Also don't ask me all the technical aspects of the suspension I ran, cause I don't even know what spring rates are or do.
I got all my suspension work done and parts from longtran@ltbmw feel free to contact him! Great guy and service! ST Coilovers I don't have any photos of the suspension itself or how to car looks now (crazy rain in Socal ), but I will try to explain it. ST Coilovers are from the same company as KW's they are EXACTLY like the KW V1's but in a nutshell they don't have a lifetime warranty and is cheaper. The height is adjustable, but not the dampening. The ride is smoother than even my previous H&R Sport + Koni Yellow Shocks. Even though I can't adjust the dampening it was better than the Koni's on medium setting. I loved the racked look that the H&R Sport springs had, but the gap in the back made me want to go lower, but not H&R Race low. I find that the ST Coilovers is the perfect blend of looks and ride. I went lower in the back and left the front. I can pass through the bumps that I had trouble with in the past without my worrying too much about the suspension not being able to compensate. I'm just wondering to myself, why didn't I know about this before?! H&R Sport + Koni Yellow Shocks With the addition of Koni Yellows, I was more confident when I was passing bumps on roads without having to worry about bottoming out. My Koni's were set on Medium setting the whole time and I never changed it. In retrospect the fronts were ok, but the back need some tightening up since it would be too bouncy back there without some weight. The ride was overall bearable for a 2 hour drive. I would think I would have gotten sick of it if I was going on a 4 hour drive or more. The springs are actually pretty harsh for a long drive. H&R Sport + OEM Shocks When I first decided to get a drop I was being cheap. I read that the springs would ride fine with the OEM shocks. Man, was I wrong The ride was only good and bearable on smooth local roads, if you live in Miami, you should have no problem, but if you commute in Los Angeles, you will hate every bit of it. There was no rebound from the OEM shocks since they weren't made for those springs and I would bottom out due to the slightest bump on the road. The look was good, but the drive was horrible, especially on bumpier roads. I quickly got Koni Yellows after a month. OEM Non-Sport + OEM Shocks When I first got the car I thought to myself, man! this car is low and looks great. Of course it was not until I got a drop that I was actually low. I felt that BMW had dumbed down the suspension. Coming from a E90 3-Series, I thought the handling would be better especially since the car was smaller and sportier. There was too much body roll for me and it was a bit floaty. This set up is really made for comfort IMO. When I think back, this is the setup to stay with if you like hassle-free suspension and comfort on long journeys or on bumpy roads. I would still angle into dips and driveways, but not much, never bottomed out. I got all my suspension work done and parts from longtran@ltbmw feel free to contact him! Great guy and service!
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Nice! I checked the website and he has great prices on installs. Congrats.
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How does it (ST) compare to stock in terms of firmness, like 35% more firm? Since I am going to replace my tires with non-run-flat, I would like the suspension to be more firm. Please let me know. Also, please PM me where you bought it from and the price too. Thanks.
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I can't really put a percentage on the firmness but it is way firmer that stock also since it's lower and I have 19s makes the car feel mote planted and cornering is easy now. St is the choice it is also bearable since it compensates well. As I said in my post I got it from longtran@ltbmw feel free to give him a pm or email!
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medium was alright for me. 50-75% firm is good. Not sure about you though... every person is different.
It's been here in my build thread for a while... http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=388997 3/4" lower than sport in the front.
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[QUOTE=jzhang;8558731]Hey guys, back with some new mods for my car, although it's not too visually noticeable, it's still worth reading. I don't do too many long posts without photos, but since this a review of some great products for out car, it will have to do so bear with me here Also don't ask me all the technical aspects of the suspension I ran, cause I don't even know what spring rates are or do.
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i agree 100% that HR on oem shocks isnt fine or comfortable and the way the back bounces probably isn't safe.
Read the same things you did on my e90 and had to do the same mod twice cost me more. so do it once and do it right with matched shocks! thanks for the comparison i just picked up ST for my e93
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Vs Stock sport... On my commute the most notable difference was on the highway. Loop 101 to the 60 - banked left hand ramp with 3 expansion joints. The car would jump to the right under load and you had to be ready for it. STs make this car stick! Same experience on the way home loop 101 to loop 202 ramp. Incredible how oem plus these are. Past 15 yrs aftermarket meant rides like crap great on track. No more compromises! For $815 from vrsf there is no reason to buy springs or stay stock.
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I can only pull from experience that a swift koni unmatched setup is a last resort and not much cheaper so do it once and the right way.
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