Feeler: N54 Power Package!!

Andrew@LutzPerformance · 07-08-2009, 11:03 AM

Hey guys would you guys be interested to purchase power packages for the 135?? For ie if we were to take tested products and show that they will give you real power increases and create a stage 1 xxxhp, stage 2 xxxhp, stage 3 xxxhp... And by buying them from us we will create a network of authorized installers that you can take your vehicle and have the products installed at an already agreed rate? What do you guys think?

Citizen Z · 07-08-2009, 11:37 AM

If pricing is lower than a Dinan flash, its not a horrible deal for people wanting to retain their warranty. I'd be in for a BMW NA backed option in the sub $2k arena.

Andrew@LutzPerformance · 07-08-2009, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Citizen Z

If pricing is lower than a Dinan flash, its not a horrible deal for people wanting to retain their warranty. I'd be in for a BMW NA backed option in the sub $2k arena.

Confused what your asking? This isnt for software only for example stage 1 would be BMS stage 2 software with DCI, obviously I'm working on the specifics but just wanted to gauge interest! I dont think there will be anything BMW NA backed except their own performance line, reason being they dont want to be held responsible for any damage if something were to fail, which is why we are only going to supply proven parts from reliable R&D companies such as BMS, Active ect.. Thanks guys!

335ievo · 07-08-2009, 04:00 PM

I think **********s already has packaged deals like that available...wouldn't be something new

SLO · 07-08-2009, 04:03 PM

Regardless if there is already something like that avialable, the question is whether the community would be interested. I would be interested but curious what the advantage would be. Better price as a package?

frimmelnojerz · 07-09-2009, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 335ievo

I think **********s already has packaged deals like that available...wouldn't be something new

...what if it were a different package?

i say that's a great idea. you seem to be doing very impressive things with your car.

Andrew@LutzPerformance · 07-09-2009, 08:10 AM

Yeah not only better as a package price, and I looked at the mod bargains packages, and all they are doing is stacking retail pricing ontop of your order, I want to make packages for example the highest stage package would be a product list similar to what we did to larry's 135 bringing him to an 11.7 quarter and over 420rwhp on bolt ons!

stevenc · 07-09-2009, 08:17 AM

Andrew here is a thought.

Alot of people have some mods, so are unlikely to buy a complete package.

The other people who have no mods are unlikely to go from nothing to everything overnight. They will likely start with a tune, then intake, then later downpipes ect.

If you do a package, make the packages build off each other.

People buy stage 1 (JB3 + DCI), then later the guys wants to step up to stage 2 (Downpipes and IC), then later he wants stage 3 (Meth). Thats the only way i see this working.

Dave · 07-09-2009, 08:36 AM

yes and suspension packages too

but there would need to be some warranty or guarantee.... even if it is like 1 yr or day

stevenc · 07-09-2009, 09:00 AM

Izzodesh, i think thats a good idea. Suspension packages make more sense to me.

A mix of M3 parts with other suspension parts could make really nice package.

dmboone25 · 07-09-2009, 09:24 AM

If the gains are there--people will be interested.

Andrew@LutzPerformance · 07-09-2009, 10:05 AM

Thanks guys please feel free to voice your opinions or ideas freely! We want to help the N54 market as much as we can! Thanks again!

Andrew@LutzPerformance · 07-09-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by stevenc

Andrew here is a thought.

Alot of people have some mods, so are unlikely to buy a complete package.

The other people who have no mods are unlikely to go from nothing to everything overnight. They will likely start with a tune, then intake, then later downpipes ect.

If you do a package, make the packages build off each other.

People buy stage 1 (JB3 + DCI), then later the guys wants to step up to stage 2 (Downpipes and IC), then later he wants stage 3 (Meth). Thats the only way i see this working.

Thats exactly what I was thinking, I wanted to make a stage guide if you will... For example stage 2 which could be downpipes and IC would give you gains of xxxhp and possibility of xx.xx quarter mile time.. That way people can buy and install what they want to get the most gain possible without having to purchase and wonder what kind of gain they have gotten from their mod.

Andrew@LutzPerformance · 07-09-2009, 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by izzodesh

yes and suspension packages too

but there would need to be some warranty or guarantee.... even if it is like 1 yr or day

Suspension packages are a great idea... now on the warranty subject what do you mean... like we guarantee 400rwhp with these mods or like a guarantee on part failure... not sure what you mean but your feedback is very very helpful!

bimmerboy · 07-09-2009, 10:24 AM

If you can offer staged packages that are cheaper than the retail price I'm sure people will be interested.

My only suggestion would be to offer mix-n-match combos

dmboone25 · 07-09-2009, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew@LutzPerformance

Suspension packages are a great idea... now on the warranty subject what do you mean... like we guarantee 400rwhp with these mods or like a guarantee on part failure... not sure what you mean but your feedback is very very helpful!

I think he means a part warranty...for X # of days or a year, to be replaced without cost if it happens to fail.....

Andrew@LutzPerformance · 07-09-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dmboone25

I think he means a part warranty...for X # of days or a year, to be replaced without cost if it happens to fail.....

Yeah I understand where your coming from, basically we would honor the manufactures warranty, which most companies have a minimum of a year in case something fails or doesn't operate properly.. Over that I guess Id have to look into it for sure... Thanks for your feedback!!

Raflekt · 07-09-2009, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by stevenc

Izzodesh, i think thats a good idea. Suspension packages make more sense to me.

A mix of M3 parts with other suspension parts could make really nice package.

+ 101010110

RiXst3r · 07-09-2009, 02:09 PM

Every performance package needs a good boost gauge

onehungevo · 07-09-2009, 07:35 PM

I think this is a good idea as long as you produce actual power gains from dyno graphs with the same dyno and car....So start with a stock dyno run post results, add the stage one package and post the dyno results, add stage two package etc...That sold me on evo parts and I think it would work on here.

Dave · 07-21-2009, 11:41 AM

updates?

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Citizen Z Alpine Master 115 Rep 1,310 Posts Drives: '08 135i AW Sport Join Date: May 2008 Location: Kansas iTrader: (1)	If pricing is lower than a Dinan flash, its not a horrible deal for people wanting to retain their warranty. I'd be in for a BMW NA backed option in the sub $2k arena. __________________ Alpine White with Taupe Leather 135i, Sports Package, Heated Seats, Comfort Access, iPod Adapter Fastness: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=252727
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335ievo Your'e gonna learrrrrrnn tooooday 41 Rep 595 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW 328i M Sport EB Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: ATL, Georgia iTrader: (1)	I think **********s already has packaged deals like that available...wouldn't be something new __________________ 2013 BMW 328i MSport F30 - Estoril Blue "Minds are like parachutes. They only function when they are open." James Dewar
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SLO Shane 41 Rep 363 Posts Drives: M3, RRS, LR4 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	Regardless if there is already something like that avialable, the question is whether the community would be interested. I would be interested but curious what the advantage would be. Better price as a package?
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Andrew@LutzPerformance 60 Rep 970 Posts Drives: 1995 M3 GT35R Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 6333 N Dale Mabry Hwy Tampa, FL iTrader: (0)	Yeah not only better as a package price, and I looked at the mod bargains packages, and all they are doing is stacking retail pricing ontop of your order, I want to make packages for example the highest stage package would be a product list similar to what we did to larry's 135 bringing him to an 11.7 quarter and over 420rwhp on bolt ons!
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stevenc Coming Soon 256 Rep 960 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M4 Alphine White MT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	Andrew here is a thought. Alot of people have some mods, so are unlikely to buy a complete package. The other people who have no mods are unlikely to go from nothing to everything overnight. They will likely start with a tune, then intake, then later downpipes ect. If you do a package, make the packages build off each other. People buy stage 1 (JB3 + DCI), then later the guys wants to step up to stage 2 (Downpipes and IC), then later he wants stage 3 (Meth). Thats the only way i see this working.
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Dave formerly izzo/comeback 299 Rep 3,382 Posts Drives: 2016 RC 350 F Sport Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 135i [6.80]	yes and suspension packages too but there would need to be some warranty or guarantee.... even if it is like 1 yr or day __________________ BMW CCA # 418268
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stevenc Coming Soon 256 Rep 960 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M4 Alphine White MT Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Houston, TX iTrader: (0)	Izzodesh, i think thats a good idea. Suspension packages make more sense to me. A mix of M3 parts with other suspension parts could make really nice package.
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dmboone25 Lieutenant General 4986 Rep 10,210 Posts Drives: 2024 Golf R / 718 SRS (on way) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 328i [10.00] 2007 328i [10.00]	If the gains are there--people will be interested. __________________ Past rides: 2022 718 Spyder, 2022 MINI JCW, 2016 981 BGTS, 2020 MINI JCW, 2017 F80, 2015 981 CS, 2014 F22 235, 2011 E82 135, 2008 E82 135, 2007 E92 328, 2007 E92 328 (My lady drives an OG M2. So does my dad)
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Andrew@LutzPerformance 60 Rep 970 Posts Drives: 1995 M3 GT35R Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 6333 N Dale Mabry Hwy Tampa, FL iTrader: (0)	Thanks guys please feel free to voice your opinions or ideas freely! We want to help the N54 market as much as we can! Thanks again!
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bimmerboy Captain 23 Rep 601 Posts Drives: 135i Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (0)	If you can offer staged packages that are cheaper than the retail price I'm sure people will be interested. My only suggestion would be to offer mix-n-match combos __________________ *--2009 BSM 135i--* -Manual, Sport Package, BMW Assist
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RiXst3r 278 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	Every performance package needs a good boost gauge
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onehungevo Captain 66 Rep 982 Posts Drives: Join Date: Sep 2008 iTrader: (0)	I think this is a good idea as long as you produce actual power gains from dyno graphs with the same dyno and car....So start with a stock dyno run post results, add the stage one package and post the dyno results, add stage two package etc...That sold me on evo parts and I think it would work on here.
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Dave formerly izzo/comeback 299 Rep 3,382 Posts Drives: 2016 RC 350 F Sport Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NJ iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 135i [6.80]	updates? __________________ BMW CCA # 418268
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