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marcel b · 10-13-2009, 09:09 AM

As reported on 1addicts Homepage.

Hi Guys,

this photos where shot yesterday in Garching (M devision is located there in Germany). Seems BMW is testing a stronger 1 series. Interesting are the back brakes. They are not the performance one, but look more like the brake of the E46 M3 CSL / Z4M

It also had a carbon fiber roof, vented and cross drilled brake discs.

EDIT:
We are looking at either an M1 (unlikely) or the rumored 1-series supersport (similar to the BMW M3 CSL) - a 1-series utilizing lightweight materials and specific options aimed at the enthusiast, which are not within the BMW Performance catalog.

Info from mapezzul:

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The F20 will debut (3/5 door hatch) 18 months before the current coupe is sent out to pasture- this will be a performance edition to keep the interest up and current (much like the ZHP on the E46).

This will be a CSL like car- not badged CSL (possibly Csi or tii). This will preview the Super Sports edition that will be introduced in the next generation and be the high end coupe model.

The performance and lightweight components on this car will not be options on "regular" models and will not be based on BMW Performance accessories.

Testing currently is a CF roof, hood, and trunk- Special lightweight (BBS) wheels, new highly bolstered seats and Light Weight glass. Engine is still TBA and in testing.

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UltimateBMW · 10-13-2009, 09:19 AM

I'm pretty sure i've seen it mentioned that since there will not be a new M Z4, that the designation of M coupe would fall on the 1-series. So seeing this isn't much of a surprise to me. I think the rumors for it were a I4TT. Though the car doesn't seem to be wearing enough camo for a full on M mule. Perhaps this is just a focused test.

HondaGoneRogue · 10-13-2009, 09:56 AM

Crazy. I hope it's true. Don't really want an x-drive, way too much weight. Bring on the carbon roof. If the carbon and light materials could offset the weight of the AWD I could be game.

Boost Gomez · 10-13-2009, 10:01 AM

I think there will be wider fenders front and rear as the offsets on the front tires are really low. This might indeed be a 1-series M car.

BForbes · 10-13-2009, 10:30 AM

Hmm...they're definitely up to something.

Alessandro · 10-13-2009, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Boost Gomez

I think there will be wider fenders front and rear as the offsets on the front tires are really low. This might indeed be a 1-series M car.

It looks like a this one also has the Carbon roof as well.

Hula-Hula · 10-13-2009, 10:42 AM

It would be pretty cool if this is the reason BMW told us we wont get a CSL version of the M3...

Zed 2.0 · 10-13-2009, 10:44 AM

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More interesting are the wide rear wheel arches which suggest an xDrive-equipped 1 Coupe could be undergoing testing.

Do they know what xDrive is? I can't think of a single AWD BMW that has flared arches compared to the RWD variant.

Feyd · 10-13-2009, 10:51 AM

hmmm.. looks like the makings of a $60k 1er.

I do like the wide-body look, but I'd want to see some specs before I could comment any further.

Its funny though it looks like they just sawz-all'd the fenders out and then hastily put some trim back on.

I'd say if they are doing anything it looks more like they are testing a drive train. x-drive perhaps? You can still see the intercooler behind the front bumper so whatever it is looks like its still a turbo motor...

Anyone have any clue as to why they might have taped up the headlight washer nozzles on the bumper? Looks like they removed the actual washer nozzles (no bump). Weird.

crex · 10-13-2009, 10:55 AM

Woah I want those wheels! What are they?

achtungE30 · 10-13-2009, 10:56 AM

Haha, look, its got Breytons!
Sorry I just came from the Tire Rack thread.

jeremyc74 · 10-13-2009, 11:02 AM

I'm not sure if this is actually a 1 Series variant, or if they're just testing some equipment that's going on a shared chassis.

It's certainly interesting, but it's hard to imagine the car making it to production with rear tires that much wider than the normal ones.

taliesen · 10-13-2009, 11:30 AM

Not that this really adds to the discussion, but it kills me that they take the effort to mask the roundel on the hood, but leave the "LOOK AT ME I'M A BMW" kidneys exposed and unadulterated . . .

marcel b · 10-13-2009, 11:34 AM

maybe the chassis is already adapted, different suspension, different wishbones etc, differential in the back, and the just put the normal body on top. Really curious what this will be.
On the German M forum it is stated that the engine will not be a NA straight 6. So I guess a N54 with some more horses. There are speculations that there will come a Z4 40Sdrive version, which would have a more powerful N54 with around 340HP.. This could be an option..

marcel b · 10-13-2009, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by taliesen

Not that this really adds to the discussion, but it kills me that they take the effort to mask the roundel on the hood, but leave the "LOOK AT ME I'M A BMW" kidneys exposed and unadulterated . . .

part of the game.. they want to be seen and recognized. Is great Marketing

camouflaging the kidneys would also not really help to disguise

footie · 10-13-2009, 11:43 AM

Some are claiming it was probably a 1series equipped with x-drive.

Why for heaven-sake would it also have a CF roof, vented and cross drilled brake discs and ultra low profile rubber and wheels from an M3 CSL. This has all the making of an M1 test mule.

Question is, what's the engine?

SteveMD · 10-13-2009, 11:45 AM

It would have to be an M engine. I'm sure it would have to be turbocharged. The purists would cry if it's an N54

Look for this to hit the streets along with the turbo'd M3...to keep things fair.

jkp1187 · 10-13-2009, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMD

It would have to be an M engine. I'm sure it would have to be turbocharged. The purists would cry if it's an N54

Look for this to hit the streets along with the turbo'd M3...to keep things fair.

I wonder if it might include that rumored turbocharged four cylinder that was being talked about earlier in the year for the 1er "super sport"?

Design1stCode2nd · 10-13-2009, 12:26 PM

Some serious fender flare there, and M Wheels.

zuggerat · 10-13-2009, 12:27 PM

This thing looks SICK... sign me the F up.

How about the engine from the 3 Series WTCC car. Hmm?

TK-421 · 10-13-2009, 12:31 PM

Nice wheels/tires

ben14142001 · 10-13-2009, 12:32 PM

Cross drilled rear rotors as well!

10-13-2009, 09:19 AM	#2
UltimateBMW Colonel Drives: 2001 330ci Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: South Posts: 2,174 iTrader: (0)	I'm pretty sure i've seen it mentioned that since there will not be a new M Z4, that the designation of M coupe would fall on the 1-series. So seeing this isn't much of a surprise to me. I think the rumors for it were a I4TT. Though the car doesn't seem to be wearing enough camo for a full on M mule. Perhaps this is just a focused test. __________________

10-13-2009, 10:01 AM	#4
Boost Gomez Colonel Drives: C63 AMG / GT-R / ZR1 Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Miami Posts: 2,186 iTrader: (0) View Boost Gomez's Garage	I think there will be wider fenders front and rear as the offsets on the front tires are really low. This might indeed be a 1-series M car. __________________

10-13-2009, 10:30 AM	#5
BForbes Moderator Drives: until out of road Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,926 iTrader: (0)	Hmm...they're definitely up to something. __________________ Hate or Love it, its still #1 "1 series haters will always hate. That's fine as long as they get out of the way." If you're gonna compare a BMW, you compare it to every other car ever made... that wasn't made by BMW. ;-) "None of you understand. I'm not locked up in here with you. You're locked up in here with me." -Rorschach ///MOTORSPORTONE FTW!!!

10-13-2009, 10:42 AM	#7
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10-13-2009, 11:30 AM	#13
taliesen Self Imposed Exile Drives: 09 E90 328i Join Date: May 2009 Location: DFW, TX Posts: 235 iTrader: (1)	Not that this really adds to the discussion, but it kills me that they take the effort to mask the roundel on the hood, but leave the "LOOK AT ME I'M A BMW" kidneys exposed and unadulterated . . . __________________ 2009 E90 328i - Space Gray / Black-Ette / Aluminum / 6MT / Xenons / BT / iPod / Legal Tints / Blue and White CF Roundels / Clear Bra / Done Modding (daily driver)

10-13-2009, 10:51 AM	#9
Feyd Major Drives: 2008 135i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 1,069 iTrader: (1)	hmmm.. looks like the makings of a $60k 1er. I do like the wide-body look, but I'd want to see some specs before I could comment any further. Its funny though it looks like they just sawz-all'd the fenders out and then hastily put some trim back on. I'd say if they are doing anything it looks more like they are testing a drive train. x-drive perhaps? You can still see the intercooler behind the front bumper so whatever it is looks like its still a turbo motor... Anyone have any clue as to why they might have taped up the headlight washer nozzles on the bumper? Looks like they removed the actual washer nozzles (no bump). Weird.

10-13-2009, 10:55 AM	#10
crex Lieutenant Drives: bmw 135i Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: NOVA Posts: 457 iTrader: (1)	Woah I want those wheels! What are they?

10-13-2009, 11:02 AM	#12
jeremyc74 Banned Drives: '08 135i Montego/Terra Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 5,990 iTrader: (0)	I'm not sure if this is actually a 1 Series variant, or if they're just testing some equipment that's going on a shared chassis. It's certainly interesting, but it's hard to imagine the car making it to production with rear tires that much wider than the normal ones.

10-13-2009, 11:34 AM	#14
marcel b Major Drives: E92 335i DCT Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Europe Posts: 1,091 iTrader: (0) View marcel b's Garage	maybe the chassis is already adapted, different suspension, different wishbones etc, differential in the back, and the just put the normal body on top. Really curious what this will be. On the German M forum it is stated that the engine will not be a NA straight 6. So I guess a N54 with some more horses. There are speculations that there will come a Z4 40Sdrive version, which would have a more powerful N54 with around 340HP.. This could be an option.. __________________ Cheers Marcel

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footie Commander-in-Chief Drives: ???????????? Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: In a house near you Posts: 7,016 iTrader: (0) View footie's Garage	Some are claiming it was probably a 1series equipped with x-drive. Why for heaven-sake would it also have a CF roof, vented and cross drilled brake discs and ultra low profile rubber and wheels from an M3 CSL. This has all the making of an M1 test mule. Question is, what's the engine? __________________ *2011 ???s??e ???e???* 2010 Audi S4Avant 2009 Golf GTI Mk6

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SteveMD London was home for 26 years. Now a Marylander! Drives: On the wrong side of the road. Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Raventown! Posts: 2,064 iTrader: (3) View SteveMD's Garage	It would have to be an M engine. I'm sure it would have to be turbocharged. The purists would cry if it's an N54 Look for this to hit the streets along with the turbo'd M3...to keep things fair. __________________ 2009 E90335i - Blue Water/Grey/Light Burl\|\|ZSP\|\|ZPP\|\|Nav\|\|Step\|\|Hot Seats\|\|Sirius\|\|Comfort Access \|\| JB3 2.0 See me for Industrial Electronic Repair.

10-13-2009, 12:26 PM	#19
Design1stCode2nd Lieutenant Drives: 08 Subaru STI Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: MD Posts: 400 iTrader: (0)	Some serious fender flare there, and M Wheels.

10-13-2009, 12:27 PM	#20
zuggerat New Member Drives: Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 11 iTrader: (0)	This thing looks SICK... sign me the F up. How about the engine from the 3 Series WTCC car. Hmm?

10-13-2009, 12:31 PM	#21
TK-421 Colonel Drives: E46 M3 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,211 iTrader: (0)	Nice wheels/tires

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