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burn_sky · 05-22-2011, 12:54 PM

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yakev724 · 05-22-2011, 01:11 PM

Thank You

Tuned1M · 05-22-2011, 01:23 PM

Nice find. Post this in the 1M forum.

M12Power · 05-22-2011, 06:37 PM

Chalk up another rave review for the 1M

RDDesign99 · 05-22-2011, 07:14 PM

That's a damn good review - especially from Top Gear.

ESC OFF · 05-22-2011, 07:23 PM

Thanks

Greenkirby21 · 05-22-2011, 07:54 PM

thanks! great read

Dan Parker · 05-22-2011, 08:41 PM

When are we going to get a bad review on this car? The worst I've heard are complaints the interior is boring and that it oversteers easilyd. I think the interior is tidy and efficient and the neutral to oversteer behavior is very welcome. Maybe I'm biased but I can't find a negative review. Writers have to find something wrong with every car but BMW seems to have muted them.

Tuned1M · 05-22-2011, 08:52 PM

^ Some have mentioned a harsh ride but that doesn't bother me one bit.

///1M · 05-22-2011, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

When are we going to get a bad review on this car? The worst I've heard are complaints the interior is boring and that it oversteers easilyd. I think the interior is tidy and efficient and the neutral to oversteer behavior is very welcome. Maybe I'm biased but I can't find a negative review. Writers have to find something wrong with every car but BMW seems to have muted them.

Dan, how do you find the car for daily use. (ride comfort)

gazz · 05-22-2011, 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

When are we going to get a bad review on this car? The worst I've heard are complaints the interior is boring and that it oversteers easilyd. I think the interior is tidy and efficient and the neutral to oversteer behavior is very welcome. Maybe I'm biased but I can't find a negative review. Writers have to find something wrong with every car but BMW seems to have muted them.

I think the general concensus complaint is that this car just isn't much fun at all. You need to read between the lines to see this glaring problem.

Robert · 05-22-2011, 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

When are we going to get a bad review on this car? The worst I've heard are complaints the interior is boring and that it oversteers easilyd. I think the interior is tidy and efficient and the neutral to oversteer behavior is very welcome. Maybe I'm biased but I can't find a negative review. Writers have to find something wrong with every car but BMW seems to have muted them.

I am sure you will find some by asking m3 owners. Seriously, if HPFP related issue is fixed this car won't get any bad rep.

superchargedman · 05-22-2011, 10:16 PM

Well, it did get a review that declared the rs3 the common man's pick, and the 1m the rare driver's pick.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

When are we going to get a bad review on this car? The worst I've heard are complaints the interior is boring and that it oversteers easilyd. I think the interior is tidy and efficient and the neutral to oversteer behavior is very welcome. Maybe I'm biased but I can't find a negative review. Writers have to find something wrong with every car but BMW seems to have muted them.

urban_alchemist · 05-23-2011, 12:59 AM

"Actually, the other BMW the 1M reminds me of is 1998's M Coupe, the slightly daft but very entertaining Z3 bsed bread van that some engineers apparently cooked up as a weekend project (and possibly a practical joke)."

Oh dear god YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Welcome back my dearly missed beloved!!!

burn_sky · 05-23-2011, 01:09 PM

Too bad bimmerpost dont know about this....

nachob · 05-25-2011, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dan Parker

When are we going to get a bad review on this car? The worst I've heard are complaints the interior is boring and that it oversteers easilyd. I think the interior is tidy and efficient and the neutral to oversteer behavior is very welcome. Maybe I'm biased but I can't find a negative review. Writers have to find something wrong with every car but BMW seems to have muted them.

I think BMW has strayed from the original M car so far that now they have something back to basics, everyone is just happy to drive something for the old-school enthusiast....

Notice I am no longer saying just enthusiast, but old-school enthusiast. I have learned over the last few years that what excites many of the new generation are glowing switches, technology, NAV, IPODS, paddles, electronic suspensions, super stiff fast trucks. In all fairness they are enthusiasts too so I think Old-School enthusiasts is the better term.

I am actually a IT guy myself and I love technology as long as it doesn't mute or degrade the driving experience.

Many in the media are happyto see something like this after so long that they are overlooking some of the negatives....rightly so...the positives outweigh the negatives. Even the WRX has gone soft so this is a breath of fresh air...albeit a little expensive and difficult to get fresh air.

torquedemon · 05-25-2011, 08:22 AM

Personally I think paddle shifters on this car would be an insult......

antzcrashing · 05-25-2011, 08:22 AM

nice review, well written. /// 1M For the Win

nachob · 05-25-2011, 08:25 AM

I believe it was Dr. Kay Segler who said anyone can put out a cheap car nowadays that goes fast so BMW has to compete on driving dynamics. I think THIS is the most brilliant thing about the 1M. If you read the comparison reviews, the 1M has not actually been the fastest. In CD review, the TT RS was faster both 0-60 and on the track. Another review found the Audi RS3 to be faster but despite that, they STILL said the 1M is the car they would buy because it was more engaging..... more fun!

That is the brilliance of the 1M.

DrPig57 · 05-25-2011, 08:38 AM

So, did you guys pay 64K and some change for your 1M? That's what TG is saying the cost is. 40,020 pounds.

antzcrashing · 05-25-2011, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DrPig57

So, did you guys pay 64K and some change for your 1M? That's what TG is saying the cost is. 40,020 pounds.

you can't use UK prices and exchange rates to accurately predict US car prices.

stefan · 05-25-2011, 10:21 AM

I am in the market at the moment. It was either a 2011.75 M3 or a 2012 1M. After driving turbo cars, owning a 135i, and owning previous M3s, the reason you'd pick a M3 is strictly an illogical one based on feel. I have come to despise turbos. Maybe they aren't ready yet, but I dislike the lack of induction noise, and overall characteristic of the throttle response. I feel like journalists these days have come to expect a bit of turbo lag and inconsistency.

So although the 1M may even be quicker than the M3 in various areas, I'm still picking up the more expensive M3 just because of "feel" (and because they are a good deal right now--I feel that the 1M is overpriced and financing rates are far too high in Canada on them). In addtion; re: price. It's about $10K difference between an M3 and a 1M here in Canada. Though after incentives and negotiation that gap gets quite small. Our dealers aren't budging on the price for the 1M.

You can't go wrong with either, though. The last of the NA M3s and this 1M will both be sought-after cars, the former perhaps by M purists and the latter possibly by tuners.

05-22-2011, 07:23 PM	#6
ESC OFF Major Drives: 1M (AW) & CaymanS Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,012 iTrader: (0)	Thanks __________________ The faster you go, the better it feels

05-22-2011, 07:54 PM	#7
Greenkirby21 Vrooom :) Drives: BMW 128i Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Dream Land Posts: 1,737 iTrader: (1)	thanks! great read __________________ 2009 128i Coupe Crimson Red MODS: -Injen Intake-Magnaflow Exhaust-Carbon Fiber Spoiler - Carbon Fiber Grilles - OZ Ultraleggeras - CF Mirrors

05-22-2011, 08:41 PM	#8
Dan Parker Major Drives: 2012 Golf R Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Georgia Posts: 1,364 iTrader: (0)	When are we going to get a bad review on this car? The worst I've heard are complaints the interior is boring and that it oversteers easilyd. I think the interior is tidy and efficient and the neutral to oversteer behavior is very welcome. Maybe I'm biased but I can't find a negative review. Writers have to find something wrong with every car but BMW seems to have muted them. __________________ Dan Parker

05-25-2011, 08:22 AM	#18
antzcrashing ... can I get a 1M Drives: 2006 330i Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Miami FL Posts: 922 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2006 BMW 330i [5.00]	nice review, well written. /// 1M For the Win __________________

05-25-2011, 08:38 AM	#20
DrPig57 Second Lieutenant Drives: Crimson/Coral 135i M// package Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 293 iTrader: (0)	So, did you guys pay 64K and some change for your 1M? That's what TG is saying the cost is. 40,020 pounds. __________________ Don't force me to taunt you a second time

05-22-2011, 01:11 PM	#2
yakev724 Brigadier General Drives: 06 330i Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Long Island Posts: 3,529 iTrader: (48)	Thank You

05-22-2011, 01:23 PM	#3
Tuned1M Brigadier General Drives: ANAW1M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 3,140 iTrader: (1)	Nice find. Post this in the 1M forum.

05-22-2011, 06:37 PM	#4
M12Power Private Drives: Rental Cars Join Date: May 2011 Location: USA Posts: 92 iTrader: (0)	Chalk up another rave review for the 1M

05-22-2011, 07:14 PM	#5
RDDesign99 Private Drives: 128i Sport Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Canada Posts: 52 iTrader: (0)	That's a damn good review - especially from Top Gear.

05-22-2011, 08:52 PM	#9
Tuned1M Brigadier General Drives: ANAW1M Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Earth Posts: 3,140 iTrader: (1)	^ Some have mentioned a harsh ride but that doesn't bother me one bit.

05-23-2011, 12:59 AM	#14
urban_alchemist Private Drives: 1M Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Israel Posts: 96 iTrader: (0)	"Actually, the other BMW the 1M reminds me of is 1998's M Coupe, the slightly daft but very entertaining Z3 bsed bread van that some engineers apparently cooked up as a weekend project (and possibly a practical joke)." Oh dear god YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS! Welcome back my dearly missed beloved!!!

05-23-2011, 01:09 PM	#15
burn_sky New Member Drives: BMW 325i Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Delhi Posts: 18 iTrader: (0)	Too bad bimmerpost dont know about this....

05-25-2011, 08:22 AM	#17
torquedemon First Lieutenant Drives: 1M Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Earth Posts: 389 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 BMW 1 Series M ... [0.00]	Personally I think paddle shifters on this car would be an insult......

05-25-2011, 08:25 AM	#19
nachob Major Drives: 2011 1M Coupe Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: California Posts: 1,042 iTrader: (3)	I believe it was Dr. Kay Segler who said anyone can put out a cheap car nowadays that goes fast so BMW has to compete on driving dynamics. I think THIS is the most brilliant thing about the 1M. If you read the comparison reviews, the 1M has not actually been the fastest. In CD review, the TT RS was faster both 0-60 and on the track. Another review found the Audi RS3 to be faster but despite that, they STILL said the 1M is the car they would buy because it was more engaging..... more fun! That is the brilliance of the 1M.

05-25-2011, 10:21 AM	#22
stefan Colonel Drives: E92M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Calgary Posts: 2,019 iTrader: (2) Garage List 1999 VF BMW M3 [5.00] 2008 135i [5.00] 2003 M3 [3.10] 2011.75 BMW M3 [4.17] 2009 STi [3.83]	I am in the market at the moment. It was either a 2011.75 M3 or a 2012 1M. After driving turbo cars, owning a 135i, and owning previous M3s, the reason you'd pick a M3 is strictly an illogical one based on feel. I have come to despise turbos. Maybe they aren't ready yet, but I dislike the lack of induction noise, and overall characteristic of the throttle response. I feel like journalists these days have come to expect a bit of turbo lag and inconsistency. So although the 1M may even be quicker than the M3 in various areas, I'm still picking up the more expensive M3 just because of "feel" (and because they are a good deal right now--I feel that the 1M is overpriced and financing rates are far too high in Canada on them). In addtion; re: price. It's about $10K difference between an M3 and a 1M here in Canada. Though after incentives and negotiation that gap gets quite small. Our dealers aren't budging on the price for the 1M. You can't go wrong with either, though. The last of the NA M3s and this 1M will both be sought-after cars, the former perhaps by M purists and the latter possibly by tuners. __________________ ///M Power - 2011.75 LMB M3 6MT (fuelly)

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