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      02-25-2012, 06:47 PM   #1
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VO gone gunmetal

  • Re: 340 VO horses on a sunny day in the urban jungle, at the woods and at level sotto zero.
  • Rims: 19" BBS CH-R Satin Titanium (front: 19x9 ET 20 | rear: 19x10.5 ET 25).
  • Tires: Pirelli Winter 270 Sottozero Serie II (front: 245/35R19 93W XL | rear: 265/35R19 98W XL)
    (note: my future winter tire set-up: Michelin Pilot Alpin (front: 245/35R19 93W XL | rear: 265/35R19 98W XL) - this type of superior quality tire has been homologated by Porsche as standard (winter) tyre for the 911).
  • BMW roundels: left on the 359 M Y-spoke Competition summer set, where they belong (same manufacturer, though ).
  • Spacers: nope.
  • Lowering or splitter: no plans due to some high curbs and steep slopes which I regularly need to negotiate.
  • Limited/medium picture quality: blame it on RIM/Blackberry. (+ reduced the pics from 2560x1920 to 1024x768 format for this post).
  • Scenic pics & actually no tech stuff, so posted over here (hesitated though to post in the Wheels|Tires|Suspension|Chassis|Brakes section - might be moved if deemed appropriate).

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With PSS 255/35R19 front and PSS 275/35R19 rear:

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      02-25-2012, 06:58 PM   #2
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      02-25-2012, 07:25 PM   #3
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Perfect wheel, perfect color for VO 1M. Congrats. Probably my next wheels as well.

I give it a 99 out of 100 though because of the unnecessary silver frame, hope it is even less noticeable in real life.
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      02-25-2012, 07:44 PM   #4
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stock wheels are my Fav. But this 1 looks awsome!
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      02-25-2012, 08:19 PM   #5
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Those BBS wheels look AWESOME in gun metal!!!! Very nice!
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      02-25-2012, 08:44 PM   #6
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I like em but they do look very similar to stock.
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      02-25-2012, 10:10 PM   #7
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Looks great, always preferred gunmetal color over black for rims. Aren't the 265s on a 10.5" rim a bit stretched?
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Wheels look great!
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      02-26-2012, 01:23 AM   #10
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the color! I want that color for my AW ...
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      02-26-2012, 09:58 AM   #11
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Powerbeast View Post
I like em but they do look very similar to stock.
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stock wheels are my Fav. But this 1 looks awesome!
Agree re similarity and hard-to-beat excellence of the 359M stock wheels, except for one major difference: color/finish. Design similarity: just make a wild guess who manufactures the 359M stock wheels for BMW.

Brief explanation why I got the BBS CH-R wheels instead of a second set of the 359M stock wheels (if you want to skip reading: check the pictures below).

I was looking for a winter set-up. The 270M 18" winter set-up offered by BMW was not exactly my cup of tea (examples: http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=93 and http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...&postcount=295). Although it's definitely functional, IMHO it doesn't do justice to the 1M design-wise. So exit the 270M (18") possibility. Furthermore, for my winter set-up I also had a soft spot for a gunmetal alternative, to have a differently looking 1M at least two times a year (yup, alike the M button: the "two-in-one car" concept ). As we know, the 359M stock wheels are only available in silver (1M) and black (M3 GTS). Should BMW make these available in gunmetal too, I guess many of us would not look any further and get a spare set of those. I did not want to go down the route of powder coating a second set of 359M stock wheels. So exit the 359M (19") possibility too, and enter BBS (19"): BBS CH-R with Satin Titanium finish (only available in 19" or 20"). A decent alternative, easy to fit (no spacers required, just plug and play like the 359M stock wheels) and not even cruelly expensive. Result: silver 359M (19") with summer tires (PS2 or, even better, PSS) in the warmer part of the year, gunmetal BBS CH-R (19") with winter tires (Pirelli Sottozero) in the colder part of the year. Advantage: winter and summer tires with same size specs = interchangeable with both sets of wheels.

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Looks great, always preferred gunmetal color over black for rims. Aren't the 265s on a 10.5" rim a bit stretched?
To me gunmetal is a fine compromise between the sportiness of black rims and the elegance of silver rims. The black 359M wheels (M3 GTS) are kinda cool, though.

265s are OK in my book. First, it's my winter set-up and I'm pushing the envelope already with 19" instead of 18" wheels (IMHO more than 265s would be inappropriate as winter set-up). Secondly, as stated above, winter and summer tires with same size specs = interchangeable with both sets of wheels. Thirdly, for the 19" BBS CH-R Tire rack recommends the same set-up as for the stock 1M wheels: 245/35-19 front + 265/35-19 rear: http://www.tirerack.com/wheels/Wheel...All&sort=Brand

But if you want to max out the summer set-up: forum member Golo must be a brave man, because he fitted the 20" version of the BBS CH-R with 285s + lowered his 1M (http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...2&postcount=54: "lowered around 1.5" front and 1" at the back by kw v3 - wheels are 20x9 & 20x10.5 both 24 offset they are 245/30/20 & 285/25/20"). Should I go for such 20" set-up, my front spoiler would be destroyed in no time. For three pictures: see below (or http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...0&postcount=44).

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Perfect wheel, perfect color for VO 1M. Congrats. Probably my next wheels as well.
I give it a 99 out of 100 though because of the unnecessary silver frame, hope it is even less noticeable in real life.
"The stainless rim protector can easily be changed in case of damage and provides an ideal way to make your rims look like new again or personalize": is visible, but due to its color rather discreet/understated, alike the carved "Motorsport" inscription ("The CH-R wheel incorporates the words "Motorsport" into the front face providing a unique characteristic of this wheel while paying respects to the decades of success in Motorsport"). Both details give the wheel an extra touch design-wise. Looks fine in real life (this Tire Rack detail picture gives a good idea of the contrast: http://www.tirerack.com/upgrade_gara...+Stainless+Lip).

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the color! I want that color for my AW ...
For drooling purposes: check Golo's 20" set-up below.

Time for some pictures.

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Custom colored BBS CH-R wheels (presumably photoshopped) by E90post.com board sponsor "BaanVelgen" (The Netherlands) (http://www.baanvelgen.com/wheels-bbs-ch-r-titanium-19):

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      02-26-2012, 10:11 AM   #12
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the best looking as well as great quality aftermarket rim yet for the 1M..especially in Gunmetal..Silver and black look OK but the Gunmetal is the ticket for ALL of the 1M colors! White looks sick with Gunmetal, Orange looks amazing and Black looks great too.
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nice rims !
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      02-28-2012, 10:06 PM   #14
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That looks excellent!
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Looks great, specially with VO.
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Hello Artemis

I just put on my gunmetal BBS CH-R with Michelin Super Sports and there seems to be a very slight rubbing noise coming from the fron axle...have you experienced the same?

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I just put on my gunmetal BBS CH-R with Michelin Super Sports and there seems to be a very slight rubbing noise coming from the front axle...have you experienced the same?
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Hi Chapman1977.

First of all, do know that, also with the stock rims and tires, clearance between tires and fender liner is a close call. See for example the pictures taken by OAM (too close for comfort, actually):
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...98&postcount=1 (front left)
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showp...48&postcount=6 (front right)

As indicated above, 19" BBS CH-R is my winter set-up (Pirelli Winter 270 Sottozero Serie II), so no experience with PS2 or PSS on those rims.

My experiences:
- rear: all fine right from the start.
- front left: initially very slight rubbing when full lock to right;
- front right: initially slight rubbing when 90% of full lock to left.

So only during a parking manouver or a full lock turn at walking pace, I initially experienced the rubbing (it's the very middle part of the fender liner, which has a slightly different position than the other vertical parts, which is the culprit).

On my winter set-up the rubbing was instantly resolved by creating a bit more clearance: marginally push the middle part of the fender liner a bit inwards (towards the cooler, i.e. towards the front of the car) with the head of a hammer, after having slightly 'weakened' the rubbing spot with a heat gun (beware: only use the heat gun for a very short period of time, otherwise it could melt the fender liner and/or damage the cooler behind it). I also put 2.4 bar on all four winter tires (although I doubt that's of any relevance for the initial rubbing issue). No issues ever since (even on bumpy roads, speed bumps, etc.).

The weird thing is that another stock 1M owner who has exactly the same winter set-up as mine and got them installed by the same tire/rims dealer, never had any rubbing issue (only difference between our respective set-ups is the rims color: he opted for black on his AW 1M - I opted for gun metal on my VO 1M). No clue re the difference.

As a matter of fact, when you touch/push the fender liner, you'll notice that it's not really a tight fit - the fender liner can be moved a bit forward/backwards. Fitting a screw could keep it tight, but is too dangerous, especially if tires hit the hypothetical screw during a hard impact on, for example, a speed bump. I guess BMW prefers no 100% tight fit over the risk of a punctured tire.

On a final note: most rubbing issues reported on this forum with all sorts of set-ups virtually always relates to the right front side.

Conclusion: initially a slight rubbing issue, but that was sorted out by creating some clearance.

Hope this helps.
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the stock wheels are still my fav but these come pretty damn close. Looks awesome!
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@Artemis

Thanks a lot for your input, I really appreciate it!

I will have the car on a stage next week and will try to find the week spot - the Super Sports are supposedly a little bit wider than most other tyres including the PS2's...I will also try to get my fender lines changed under warranty since the situation is known by BMW (at least thats what a couple of members in the German forums said).

Cheers from Berlin!
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Love it bro so subtle.
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the stock wheels are still my fav but these come pretty damn close. Looks awesome!
Agree. Excellent choice OP.
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Looks like OEM wheels to me
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