BMW 1 Series Coupe Forum / 1 Series Convertible Forum (1M / tii / 135i / 128i / Coupe / Cabrio / Hatchback) (BMW E82 E88 128i 130i 135i)
 





 

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      06-11-2012, 03:51 PM   #1
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Drivers side front wheel ticking ???

BMW people,

While cornering right I get a tick-----tick----tick--- when I really corner hard, such as when decreasing a radius while in a turn without increasing cornering speed, I get tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t - and so on.

I am only hearing it from the left side front wheel and it increases the ticking frequency given the corner aggression. Does not make the same noise while turning right.

No stones stuck in the tires, last year this was a much difference sound coming from the same area, not really ticking. But harder to describe.

Comments ?

Edit: noise not coming from front but rear diff... New diff is on order

Updated August 1 2012 a replacement wheel bearing has fixed this problem... for now

Last edited by rapter; 08-01-2012 at 10:23 AM.
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 04:27 PM   #2
JohnCena
Banned
 
Drives: VO
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: MERICA

Posts: 212
iTrader: (0)

Garage List
sure its not a nail
JohnCena is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 04:28 PM   #3
yemski
Lieutenant
 
yemski's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 1M
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Bay Area

Posts: 485
iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2011 1M Coupe  [0.00]
Have you driven through any gravel recently? Little rocks can get stuck between the rotors and dust shields. When it happened to me it sounded like a tin can being kicked around. Eventually the little rock fell out nut it was weird because it only happened at low speeds.
yemski is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 04:51 PM   #4
Dackelone
Moderator
 
Dackelone's Avatar
 
Drives: 135i Silber mit/Rot 6MT N54
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Bayern, Germany

Posts: 16,002
iTrader: (1)

Sounds like maybe your inner fender liner is contacting your tire. Check out this link...

Warranty: BMW replaces free of charge 1M front fender liners (rubbing issue)
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showt...t=fender+liner
Dackelone is offline   Germany
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 06:31 PM   #5
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnCena
sure its not a nail
A nail maybe? Will check tonight however based on how hard I corner the nail would have driven right through the tire????

I will check for a nail
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 06:33 PM   #6
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by yemski
Have you driven through any gravel recently? Little rocks can get stuck between the rotors and dust shields. When it happened to me it sounded like a tin can being kicked around. Eventually the little rock fell out nut it was weird because it only happened at low speeds.
Coming off the hwy this aft I heard a few stones ping off the plastic of the car and side mirror. I can take a look if any Stones are stuck back there.

Ticking noise I hear sounds more like a bicycle rear hub clicking than a metallic tin sound
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 06:54 PM   #7
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Dackelone
Sounds like maybe your inner fender liner is contacting your tire. Check out this link...

Warranty: BMW replaces free of charge 1M front fender liners (rubbing issue)
[intlink]682196;Warranty: BMW replaces free of charge 1M front fender liners (rubbing issue)[/intlink]
I will check for signs of wear in the liner
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 06:58 PM   #8
IZZY79
Private
 
Drives: 1M 2012 AW
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: mexico city

Posts: 99
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by rapter View Post
BMW people,

While cornering right I get a tick-----tick----tick--- when I really corner hard, such as when decreasing a radius while in a turn without increasing cornering speed, I get tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t,t - and so on.

I am only hearing it from the left side front wheel and it increases the ticking frequency given the corner aggression. Does not make the same noise while turning right.

No stones stuck in the tires, last year this was a much difference sound coming from the same area, not really ticking. But harder to describe.

Comments ?

I had a sound in my 1M a couple of weeks ago.
When I turned right it made a click sound, it was a hard sound, specially when the car was cold. But it only cliked once thru the turn and always clicked on the same angle of the stearing.
The car was almost brand new so I took it to the BMW shop and they lifted the car and took of a lid on the bottom. The technician figured it out right away.

There is a little black bootie that covers some components in the direction. The bootie was too compressed and it made that sound while stearing. They changed the bootie and the problem was 100% solved.

Maybe you can give that a try.

P.S. I hope I explained the bootie deal good enough. its kind of hard explaining this things in english. good luck
IZZY79 is offline   Mexico
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 07:44 PM   #9
EIN M
Second Lieutenant
 
Drives: BMW 1M
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Dallas, TX

Posts: 271
iTrader: (0)

+1 on nail.
EIN M is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 08:14 PM   #10
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

My Wife and I just checked the car.

1) - no nail in the tire
2) - no stones or pebbles
3) - no shinny plastic in the wheel wells indicating rubbing

Wife rolled the car forward with the wheel turned to the right only, and slowly rolling we both can hear the click - tick that I am hearing at higher speeds. Only difference is that at low speed we are hearing only 1-click tick per revolution of the wheel.

Had wife stand on the outside corner of a turn and semi-aggressively turned right away from her (aiming for the apex of course) and we both are hearing a sequence of ticking-clicking as the car loads up the left hand side suspension and rolls through the corner.

Will have to take to the dealer-obviously will advise on looking at the "bootie" as indicated above.
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 08:16 PM   #11
EINSER M
Major General
 
EINSER M's Avatar
 
Drives: 2011 E82 1M
Join Date: May 2006
Location: 34.1064° N, 117.5922° W, 300m altitude

Posts: 5,368
iTrader: (38)

Garage List
Send a message via AIM to EINSER M Send a message via MSN to EINSER M Send a message via Yahoo to EINSER M
its the liner. awaiting an official bulletin from BMW NA to get those fixed
__________________
THE EINSER M BUILD
CLICK HERE: EINSER M BUILD

EINSER M is offline   United_States
0
Reply With Quote
      06-11-2012, 08:31 PM   #12
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EINSER M View Post
its the liner. awaiting an official bulletin from BMW NA to get those fixed
Please expand on this comment, if it was the liner, why are there no visible markings on the liner (shinny plastic from rubber creating heat) ? ? ?
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2012, 04:20 AM   #13
edwardio
First Lieutenant
 
edwardio's Avatar
 
Drives: AW 1M COUPE
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: uk

Posts: 301
iTrader: (0)

That sounds like a nail doing that !!
edwardio is offline   United Kingdom
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2012, 08:01 AM   #14
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by edwardio View Post
That sounds like a nail doing that !!
Will take car out in the daylight and confirm or disprove nail.
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-12-2012, 11:28 AM   #15
Artemis
Brigadier General
 
Artemis's Avatar
 
Drives: 1M (VO)
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Belgium

Posts: 3,204
iTrader: (0)

If it ain't a nail, pebble, wheel bolt or fender liner issue, then maybe your tire has a 'flat spot' due to wheel lock-up under a hard braking manoeuvre.

F1 drivers try to avoid lock-up because the 'flat spot' rattles/shakes them up.

"Sometimes a lead-footed driver may accelerate to a level where the force is more than the grip can cope with, and will get wheelspin. The same may be applied to braking, but in this case rather than the track being stationary and the wheel accelerating, it is the opposite. The driver tries to slow the wheel whilst the track is still moving. If the amount he tries to slow by is more than the grip allows, the wheel will slide, the rubber will be worn away by the abrasive track surface - leaving plumes of smoke - and the driver will be left with Eddie Irvine locking up during the 1998 European GPa ‘flat spot’. This is exactly as is says - a flat part on the normally round tyre, and will cause the car to have vibrational and handling problems. To prevent this occurring, systems such as traction control (now banned) and anti-lock braking electronically control the amount of force input by the driver, and will not allow any more than that which will take the tyre to the limit of adhesion."

(http://www.atlasf1.com/99/dec29/gray.html)

Name:  WheelLockUp.jpg
Views: 1423
Size:  28.2 KBName:  WheelLockUp2.jpg
Views: 1425
Size:  22.2 KB
__________________
“For ’tis the mind that makes the body rich” (W. Shakespeare, The Taming of the Shrew, Act 4, Scene 3)
Artemis is offline   Belgium
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2012, 01:27 PM   #16
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Today it was confirmed that the Ticking that I am hearing is not related to any of the following:

1. gravel
2. Nail
3. Fender liner rubbing.

Ticking is not even coming from the front... it was/ is coming from the rear diff on right hand turns only.

This was verified in a round-about where I started a series of continuous right hand-turns which provided a friend to stand in the middle and identify exactly where the car's noises were coming from.

From the driver's perspective the sound appears to be coming from the front, where in reality the ticking is coming from the back.

Dealership has already added the Castrol Additive to the back of the diff to help with the grinding at low speeds. So we are going to add this to the list of items.
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2012, 05:33 PM   #17
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Dealer confirmed rear ticking which is the diff malfunctioning. A new diff has been ordered
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2012, 06:48 PM   #18
Plautos
Private First Class
 
Plautos's Avatar
 
Drives: 1M
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Brazil

Posts: 135
iTrader: (0)

Send a message via MSN to Plautos
check out my noise problem... pay attention on the corners... left and right..

Plautos is offline   Brazil
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2012, 09:01 PM   #19
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plautos View Post
check out my noise problem... pay attention on the corners... left and right..

Sounds like my diff....
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2012, 09:04 PM   #20
CarJunkie
Lieutenant
 
Drives: Valencia Orange 1-Series M
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Tri-Cities, Washington

Posts: 548
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Plautos View Post
check out my noise problem... pay attention on the corners... left and right..
Very obvious noise. Has this been confirmed to be a diff failure?
CarJunkie is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2012, 09:10 PM   #21
rapter
First Lieutenant
 
Drives: 1(M)other f*^#er of a car
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Canada

Posts: 353
iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by CarJunkie View Post
Very obvious noise. Has this been confirmed to be a diff failure?
And yet the car still goes to themracetrack
rapter is offline  
0
Reply With Quote
      06-13-2012, 10:02 PM   #22
speedyjoe
Private First Class
 
Drives: E46M3/1M
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Thronhill

Posts: 128
iTrader: (0)

This is so called 'noisy diff'. My dealer changed the diff oil to (SAE 75W-140, SAF-SJ, +FM), trying to make noise disappear.
I have followed the instruction to make 20 times of left and right in a circle after the fluid changed, noise seems to be getting lesser but still around.
Now, even I get used to the noise but not from friends of mine. My simple answer to them is “hmmm….. this is ‘M’”
speedyjoe is offline   Canada
0
Reply With Quote
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:14 PM.




1addicts
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST