Best intercooler that does not require cutting?

filet.M2c · 06-03-2014, 01:20 PM

As the title says, I would like to see what are your guys experiences/opinions on the best IC that requires no cutting. I've been looking at the vrsf 5" but not sure if that is the best option. Would like to hear what you guys have to say!

vivanapoli806 · 06-03-2014, 04:14 PM

Vrsf, ER, AA are all good intercoolers. Vrsf has a new stepped core 5" coming out soon. I have had there original 5" on for couple months and gets the job done

Rogo · 06-03-2014, 04:17 PM

Anyone have more info on their new v2 5inch fmic, pricing, dates, N54/55?

vivanapoli806 · 06-03-2014, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogo

Anyone have more info on their new v2 5inch fmic, pricing, dates, N54/55?

Send Tiago a message on here. I think I read this month it's being released

Rogo · 06-03-2014, 08:02 PM

Will do thanks!

Tiago@VRSF · 06-03-2014, 09:43 PM

For anyone interested:

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...1#post16066527

houtan · 06-04-2014, 09:31 AM

I have the cobb intercooler and it's been great so far.

Eyeman · 06-04-2014, 10:19 AM

I thought most looking for a smaller FMIC went with ETS. I also comes with pipes to replace some of the accordion type stock pipes.

mike@x-ph.com · 06-04-2014, 11:21 AM

New VRSF 5" is a really good option, also the ETS and AA one.

filet.M2c · 06-04-2014, 03:04 PM

thanks for your input guys, will be on the lookout for the new vrsf and see what's up

valek · 06-05-2014, 04:30 PM

Hello Tiago, have you got the specs of the new 5"? I´m really interested about pressure drop because I live at 8530ft so the turbo in the N55 hardly can achieve target boost.

thanks a lot.

135ivert · 06-05-2014, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by valek

Hello Tiago, have you got the specs of the new 5"? I´m really interested about pressure drop because I live at 8530ft so the turbo in the N55 hardly can achieve target boost.

thanks a lot.

Good question. I'm at 6500 ft and didn't even think about it how stock vs. aftermarket FMIC would do at this altitude.

Tiago@VRSF · 06-05-2014, 07:18 PM

The new stepped 5" has less pressure drop than both the old 5" and the OEM intercooler. Once the shop car becomes free I plan on doing an old 5" vs new stepped 5" comparison.

hova00 · 06-05-2014, 08:07 PM

I went back and forth with this last week and decided on the Cobb front mount. No trimming and it did pretty much go in without any issues and it is also the step design. I paired this with an AP V3 with the stage 1 aggressive map(93oct) and the car went from 290 whp/300ft. lbs to 360whp/379 ft. lbs

The car is a night and day difference and wouldn't do a single thing different.

Nugget · 06-05-2014, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by vivanapoli806

Vrsf, ER, AA are all good intercoolers. Vrsf has a new stepped core 5" coming out soon. I have had there original 5" on for couple months and gets the job done

ER requires cutting. Still a very good intercooler though.

BMist371 · 06-06-2014, 08:18 AM

Cutting really isn't a big deal. You can't see anything you cut, and none of it is essential parts. I love my ER intercooler.

wjk_glynn · 06-06-2014, 08:24 AM

Forgive my ignorance but do the 'step' designs affect air flow to the radiator (on either side)?

Thanks.

Karl.

Stohlen · 06-06-2014, 11:14 AM

Cobb

houtan · 06-06-2014, 11:28 AM

I was a little concerned about airflow when i bought the cobb, but i havent had any issues. in addition, there are three or four companies with the stepped intercooler design so i felt pretty comfortable that it wouldnt be an issue.

op, one other thing to consider is if you want to reuse the stock quick connectors on the hot and cold side pipes or go with something that has its own hose clamps and piping. reuse of the stock connectors makes installation reallllllly simple. i opted for the cobb because it is a stepped core and it does not reuse the stock connectors and the piping is slightly larger on the intercooler. plus i wanted the hard pipe on the cold side to go with my ER chargepipe. not sure how much of a difference it makes but that is what i wanted.

Quote:

Originally Posted by wjk_glynn

Forgive my ignorance but do the 'step' designs affect air flow to the radiator (on either side)?

Thanks.

Karl.

loesch · 06-06-2014, 03:30 PM

If it helps you at all, here are some logs of my car with the ETS. 3rd and 4th gear pull.

EDIT: Can't upload a csv for some reason.

Beginning of run with air intake temp of 86 degrees F. Ended run at near the top of 4th gear at 92 degrees F.

I35it · 06-06-2014, 04:06 PM

I love my Wagner. No issues after 3 years of abuse.

filet.M2c · 06-06-2014, 05:08 PM

looks like I found a member selling an ETS for a good deal. Will try working it out.

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vivanapoli806 Captain 96 Rep 829 Posts Drives: 2012 535i Xdrive Msport Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (2)	Vrsf, ER, AA are all good intercoolers. Vrsf has a new stepped core 5" coming out soon. I have had there original 5" on for couple months and gets the job done
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filet.M2c Captain 818 Rep 768 Posts Drives: M2c / mach e Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Arizona iTrader: (1)	thanks for your input guys, will be on the lookout for the new vrsf and see what's up
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valek New Member 6 Rep 25 Posts Drives: M3 E92 Join Date: May 2014 Location: At your rod bearings iTrader: (0)	Hello Tiago, have you got the specs of the new 5"? I´m really interested about pressure drop because I live at 8530ft so the turbo in the N55 hardly can achieve target boost. thanks a lot.
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Tiago@VRSF 2155 Rep 43,349 Posts Drives: F90 M5 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Doral, FL iTrader: (99) Garage List 2014 F30 328xi [0.00] 2015 F82 BMW M4 [0.00] 2013 Ducati 1199 Pa ... [0.00] 2008 BMW 335i [0.00]	The new stepped 5" has less pressure drop than both the old 5" and the OEM intercooler. Once the shop car becomes free I plan on doing an old 5" vs new stepped 5" comparison.
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hova00 Lieutenant Colonel 1834 Rep 1,571 Posts Drives: G80 M3CS Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: EAST COAST iTrader: (7)	I went back and forth with this last week and decided on the Cobb front mount. No trimming and it did pretty much go in without any issues and it is also the step design. I paired this with an AP V3 with the stage 1 aggressive map(93oct) and the car went from 290 whp/300ft. lbs to 360whp/379 ft. lbs The car is a night and day difference and wouldn't do a single thing different.
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BMist371 Second Lieutenant 6 Rep 219 Posts Drives: 2012 135i Vert Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Lenoir, N.C. iTrader: (1)	Cutting really isn't a big deal. You can't see anything you cut, and none of it is essential parts. I love my ER intercooler.
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loesch Captain 140 Rep 917 Posts Drives: 2011 BMW 135i M Sport Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: State College, PA iTrader: (4)	If it helps you at all, here are some logs of my car with the ETS. 3rd and 4th gear pull. EDIT: Can't upload a csv for some reason. Beginning of run with air intake temp of 86 degrees F. Ended run at near the top of 4th gear at 92 degrees F. __________________ 2011 135i M Sport 6MT LeMans Blue \| Active Autowerke Gen II axle back \| Berk d******* \| N54 gutted mids \| FuelIt Walbro 450 fuel pump \| Pure Turbos Stage 2 \| 3.5bar TMAP \| Pure Turbos inlet pipe \| BMS intake \| BMS oil catch can \| ETS intercooler \| ETS charge pipe \| BMS JB4 w/ ISO firmware \| BMS backend flash stacked on PPK \| Eibach springs \| Whiteline rear subframe bushing inserts \| cosmetic tidbits
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