|
|
|
03-22-2012, 07:58 AM | #1 |
Lieutenant
118
Rep 514
Posts |
Potential 08/09 135i owner! need help :D
Hey guys
First post here so go easy haha. Im about to sell my 2011 Golf GTi and looking to get a 135i, second hand of course, because i cant justify dropping the full asking price of a new one! A few quick questions. Im going to get the Auto/Sports Auto option and want to know am i at a huge disadvantage buying the older one with the single clutch 6 speed auto? Next is Do they all come standard with BlueTooth and HID headlights? having a hard time with that one. And Are there any other HUGE bad points to buying the 08/09 model. From some research i see there arent that many differences. THanks a bunch in advance! Chase |
03-22-2012, 09:16 AM | #3 |
Major General
124
Rep 5,626
Posts |
The older A/T 135i models have a 6 speed Steptronic which is a "regular" torque converter transmission. With the Sport Package, it has paddle shifters on the steering wheel. And (as you know), the newer 135i has the dual clutch DCT as it's A/T option. A 6 speed manual is the basic tranny for all years.
BMW's older single clutch auto was the SMG (for Sequential Manual Gearbox) which was never available on the US 1 series. Hope that helps a bit. Also, if you are planning to buy a car with Navigation, the '09 was greatly improved over the '08. Tom |
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 09:27 AM | #4 | |
Major General
161
Rep 4,995
Posts |
Quote:
Might pay to ask in the Aussie forum as the american cars can be slightly different to ours (their base model are a lot more Spartan then ours). |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 09:28 AM | #5 |
Lieutenant
118
Rep 514
Posts |
Thanks for the reply mate, im worried that im stepping back a little bit in terms of technology, am i going to notice a HUGE difference in gear change speed and downshifting from my Dual Clutch Gti? the gtis gear changes are insanely fast.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 09:32 AM | #6 | |
Major General
161
Rep 4,995
Posts |
Quote:
I would offer you to try my car if you were local It depends on what you want to do with the car if you really want to mod your car go for the N54 with the old steptronic but if not the DCT would be a safer bet. Also at least our gearbox doesn't come with all the headache that the GTI comes with |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 09:37 AM | #7 |
Lieutenant
118
Rep 514
Posts |
Haha! fair enough, from what ive seen the shifts are pretty quick in the "shift yourself" mode on the Steptronic. I mean i probably shift my Golf into the "manual auto" mode at the odd set of traffic lights etc. I assume you have the Steptronic one RaihaX and you love it?
I just cant justify the 70K+ price tag for the DCT when i can get basically the same car for 50 if you know what i mean. I assume its easy enough to spin the wheels in the steptronic? haha. |
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 09:41 AM | #8 | |
Major General
161
Rep 4,995
Posts |
Quote:
And it will be easier to mod and you will get more power with the 50k car too ! Easy to spin the wheels on any gearbox with this car if you wanted too |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 09:44 AM | #10 | |
Major General
161
Rep 4,995
Posts |
Quote:
But when I was getting the car I wanted a N54 so the DCT gearbox was out of the question for me. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 09:52 AM | #11 |
Brigadier General
744
Rep 3,281
Posts |
I used to have a very nifty graphic of the steptronic shift times in comparison to the older BMW automatic transmission and other gearboxes as well. It was from a BMW press release, and it also stated that humans can't perceive shift times of under 200 milliseconds or so, and all upshifts by the steptronic are at or under 200 ms. Downshifts are a little slower. The BMW DCT supposedly shifts in around 70 ms, which is definitely quicker, but not even perceptibly quicker. Some Ferrari DCTs shift in 20 ms, while the fastest manual shift time performed by a human has been in the neigborhood of a little over 200 ms. So yes, the steptronic is plenty quick. You just might have to reset the adaptations every once in a while.
And yes, it's pretty easy to spin the wheels with any transmission you choose, haha. For the record I have a 2008 with steptronic. I'm always in manual mode as well. I don't think the car EVER sees drive mode unless a valet takes it or I'm pulling it out of the garage and into the driveway for a cleaning, or something similar. The paddles and the slap-shifting is very fun. My left foot sometimes gets bored, but my hands never do.
__________________
2022 X4 M40i - 2008 135i - 2015 F700GS On Order - 2024 i4 M50 Scruffy's gonna die the way he lived... Mmhm. |
Appreciate
0
|
03-22-2012, 01:43 PM | #12 |
Mbira
30
Rep 1,011
Posts
Drives: Sedonna Red 09 135i SOLD
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Garage cleaning Brake Dust
|
being a manual driver for the past 20 years or so the 09 135i N54 was my first car with paddles...at first i was questioning my decision to try the paddles but now that i had the car for over 2 years i have really appreciated the versatility of the Step. Shifts are quick enough for me and when going heavy on the throttle the trans gives a very pleasant vocal trans blurp when shifting..it's very cool actually. I have driven cars with DCT as well as cars that downshift on the left and up shift on the right like the DCT model..Most folks prefer this pattern but i do not and like the current system as is...for a bizarre reason.(which is not safe and i do not endorse but..) For normal driving...I drive 50% of the time with a cup of coffee and i can drink it in one hand as well as shift with one hand..it works out for me very well...otherwise i would have to have both hands on the wheel...and in slow driving which i do 95% of the time i prefer this setup. The Step has been shown to handle quite a bit of RWD HP without issues ...the DCT i believe will as well but i am told a wee bit less...Either trans you will enjoy and as all have mentioned it's no problem spinning the wheels...and one great thing about the Step is if you do not shift fast enough it will shift at redline...I no going WOT with this car with a tune is crazy fast...for me it is anyway. Enjoy..If you can afford it get the 09.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-23-2012, 03:02 AM | #13 |
Lieutenant
118
Rep 514
Posts |
Yeah, getting the 09 should be no problem! maybe even an My10.
So driving in Manual is good i see which is awesome, but is it smooth in just normal auto aswell? What about he Bluetooth and xenons.. Thanks for all the help fellas |
Appreciate
0
|
03-23-2012, 05:35 AM | #14 |
Major General
401
Rep 9,156
Posts |
Welcome mate. I'll be honest, the DCT is quick, really quick. Once you experience it you'll never want anything else. Having said that, the 08-09 steptronics are no slouch either. Also, the DCT only comes with the single turbo N55 (which isn't necessarily a bad thing) and the step come in twin turbo N54. Twin turbo has more modding potential so you can make up lost ground in between gear shifts with more power
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-25-2012, 04:52 AM | #15 | |
Lieutenant
118
Rep 514
Posts |
Quote:
Cheers. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-25-2012, 05:38 AM | #17 |
Lieutenant
118
Rep 514
Posts |
Oh, shit sorry mate
Thats awesome. Now i just have to find one and sell my Gti! is the idrive stuff worth having? and whats the stock sound system like? Anyone in brisbane australia willing to let me come check out their 135? haha |
Appreciate
0
|
03-25-2012, 05:54 AM | #18 |
Major General
401
Rep 9,156
Posts |
If you want iDrive only get it on any 09+ model. The 08 (and before) iDrive is pure ratshit - Do not get it.
If you want to check out some nice 135i's I suggest you head out to QR on Thursday anytime from 12pm. A mix of the nicest E82's you'll see in QLD. |
Appreciate
0
|
03-25-2012, 06:45 AM | #19 |
Major General
161
Rep 4,995
Posts |
*hint* *hint* Look at his car
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-25-2012, 06:58 AM | #20 | |
Major General
401
Rep 9,156
Posts |
Lol Rey, I do have something new to show off on the day but Adrian's and Karl's car are on another level. Especially Adrian's... it's just a badass track car.
Here's my post from the other thread... Quote:
|
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-25-2012, 09:52 AM | #21 |
Lieutenant
118
Rep 514
Posts |
Where abouts in brissy are you mr BMW86, dont suppose youd love to show me your ride? haha. I cant make QR on thursdays otherwise i would come for sure, my mate takes his GTR34 there every week.
|
Appreciate
0
|
03-25-2012, 10:17 AM | #22 |
First Lieutenant
19
Rep 370
Posts |
I think you absolutely need to test drive one to make up your mind. I had a R32 with DSG and test drove a 135i and a 128i with steptronic and hated them. It is a good automatic gearbox but it kills a good part of the fun. I don't want to relaunch the eternal debate manual vs auto but if an auto was mandatory I would go for the DCT, especially if you have been spoiled with a DSG before. I recently had a 335i with a step as a loaner, loved the engine but the car was numbed because of the step, could not wait to have my 128i manual back (or my old R32 for that matter).
__________________
128i manual, AW, Boston Terra Leather, Sport package, Premium Package, Cold Weather Package, HK sound
|
Appreciate
0
|
Post Reply |
Bookmarks |
|
|