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08-04-2012, 05:54 AM | #111 |
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Your member stat says MY10? The newer kit is needed for cars after 03/09, sounds like u need the newer "plug and play" kit ... check the build date of your car.
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08-04-2012, 06:37 AM | #112 |
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So for my 18th i was given the Alpine kit i was saving for although i can't find the little stickers for the tweeter covers anyone know where to get them ?
Also anyone know the rear speaker size for a e87 haven't ripped the boot apart yet. |
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08-04-2012, 07:06 AM | #113 | |
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Ed: no need to rip boot apart, theyre right in plain view lol |
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08-04-2012, 07:44 AM | #114 | |
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Pre-3/09 kit: 65410445684 From-3/09 kit: 65412163268 I ordered the newer kit from Schmiedmann: http://www.schmiedmann.com/654121632...uctnumber.aspx |
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08-04-2012, 06:11 PM | #116 |
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Just emailed Schmiedmann. Hopefully they read it before it ships. Their site doesn't list the model years for either part and the newer kit doesn't even show up on a search for Alpine so I didnt think twice.
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08-04-2012, 10:24 PM | #117 | |
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.. I know where they are although how do i get the plastic off ? Does it require me taking the Airbag cover off then the speaker whole thing of just want to check before i brake a clip. Also who has installed the first edition pre update alpine kit in Melbourne ? |
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08-05-2012, 12:40 AM | #118 | |
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ED: i'm guessing you got type-r's? they're really not too bad. i mean, not worth their price, but not bad speakers. |
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08-05-2012, 01:06 AM | #119 | |
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Im not the best when it comes to audio but i thought they will be better then the stock rear ones also they wont be better then the front as they will only run off the head unit so it sound stay okay in the front balance. In your opinion you reckon i should return them put it towards something more worth while i need ? Edit: More research and decided not worth while. Last edited by GJA003; 08-05-2012 at 02:05 AM.. |
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08-05-2012, 02:33 AM | #120 | |
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decided to return them? yeah that's probably the best bet, being in the front with the alpine upgrade, it'll be fairly loud, you won't miss them from the back lol |
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08-05-2012, 08:02 AM | #121 |
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Difference is the earlier kit is deigned for the older cars that dont have all the same components. You have to splice wires on the old kit. New kit is plug and play. Theres something about different amplification from the head unit, not 100% sure but google is your friend.
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08-05-2012, 06:04 PM | #122 | |
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replacing speakers in the back wont pull the sound backwards unless you upgrade the amp supplying the power to the rear. they are powered by the head unit anyway, so replacing the speakers isn't going to make it louder, just clearer. plus replacing with a better quality speaker is a good idea when you upgrade the fronts as you will be pushing the system more due to the upgraded amp in the front. As you said though, you need to make sure you actually "upgrade" the speaker ,not just replace them with something similar.
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08-05-2012, 06:20 PM | #123 | |
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for pure sound quality, most people actually straight up remove the rear speakers, unless they carry lots of passengers. even then, a solid system plays loud enough you can hardly tell the difference. |
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08-05-2012, 06:37 PM | #124 | |
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rather than the main source of sound. but you do notice the difference if the rears are missing altogether. i think my front to rears are balanced 80/20 or thereabouts. it sounds horrible 50/50. looking forward to upgrading.
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08-26-2012, 07:19 AM | #125 |
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Brisbane BMW charged me $400 for labour. They initially tried to quote a lot more as the install instructions list a coding time of UP TO 12hrs and they were planning to charge me labour for that whole period.
That coding time is worst case scenario if your car's DME is way out of date. The coding for mine took about 1.5 hrs - and I refused to pay labour for that... |
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08-29-2012, 07:48 PM | #126 |
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I just had the kit installed yesterday, and echo everyone's opinions that this is an awesome upgrade! Mid/upper range clarity is excellent, soundstage is lifted, and it is plenty loud.
The only thing lacking for me now is tightness of the bass. There is plenty of it (enough for me) with the underseat subs powered by the amp, but it is not as "punchy" as I'd like particularly given the crispness of the top end. Can anyone recommend replacement for the underseat subs which would result in more punchy lower end? I don't want the bass to be overpowering just tighter. |
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08-31-2012, 04:15 AM | #127 |
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Hi Steve
I had mine done about a week ago. You're right - the bass doesn't seem quite right (lots of it though). I thought I'd give mine a few months before I'd make any changes (wondering if I've become used to the standard set up, so need time for my ears to acclimatize). I'd be interested to hear what you end up choosing. |
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09-15-2012, 01:48 AM | #128 | |
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09-15-2012, 02:48 AM | #129 | |
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You dont perhaps have really low PCD and gong volumes as well? That means an incorrect install of the diplexers. Yes the alpine kit coded reduces the output from the rears, but thats beacuse they havent been upgraded anyway....
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For people that know how, it's literally a few minutes, most of which is waiting for it to sort itself out I don't even really understand how it would take 12 hours to fully update the DME anyway, it's a 7xxkb file over a system that works at what.. 2mbit? You can extract and reflash it yourself in seconds |
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09-15-2012, 09:04 AM | #131 | |
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If you want proper tight and punchy bass you need an actual sub installed. 10" is big enough for these cars if you don't want LOUD.. Heck you can get 10" subs that'll happily go to 130db plus- depending on box design and sub model/amp/budget etc. etc. Whether or not it's overpowering is a matter of how it's 'tuned' - you could install a 24" sub and have the volume set right, and it wouldn't overpower.. Or you could set up an 8" and have it play stupidly loud. |
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09-20-2012, 07:59 AM | #132 |
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Rear speakers alpine retro fit
In addition to the retrofit, I replaced the rear speakers with alpine s 4 inch 2 way speakers. The result was substantial improvement in clarity and depth. Fader is set to 4 to the left to allow more volume from the rear and less from the front. This gives a clear surround sound feel with music better balanced. However there is a sacrifice to overral power to subs and door speakers with this fader compensation. A touch more volume to the rears will improve substantially more again and will allow the fader be brought back to zero. if anyone has successfully found a way to increase power to rears whether with or without a second amp let me know.
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