12-11-2012, 05:06 AM | #1 |
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Pros\Cons st.1 vs st.2
Hi I'm hesitating about what set up is better and reliable for the DD + 1-2 times at mounth track days (spring-autumn)
So for the st.1 I would go with the ETS FMIC + custom oil cooler + EvolveR + may be I will add n55 midpipe For the st.2 I wouldn't go with n55 midpipe, but will add the BMS catless DP's So I have a few questions according to the st.2: 1.I know the going with st.2 I would get more power and tourque, but will I have problems with the car? 2.I'm olanning to switch to the stock map at winter, will it work correctly with cutless DP's? I think not... 3.Why the track 1M use full decat exhaust but runs the Evolve st.1? Is it better for the track or why? |
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2. As long as cel delete is on. However, it still functions properly if you choose stock map just that cel will be on. I think making sure DSC is on would be more important. 3. The 1M race car is in the Production Car Category where the rule stated that it cannot run higher than stock boost for the series.
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If I'll go with DP's, do I need to add chardge pipe with blow off or stock is OK too? Forge DV's are not working correctly... |
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12-11-2012, 06:45 AM | #6 |
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I have problem with my forge the first time I installed it too, but still have the ER charge pipe. If you are running stage 1/2 it should be fine with stock, but I would change it if you are going to run stage 3.
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The ETS FMIC has its own charge pipe and I think it's enough, right? So to go with st/ I need just DP's + ask Evolve to get the stock map for the catless DPs for winter right? + tires + ds2500) And those tuning packs are both OK for the transmission? |
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12-11-2012, 07:20 AM | #8 | |
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Best to check with Evolve in the requirement details. I know Ian's car has fmic + exhaust and it only runs stage 1. No issues with transmission due to tuning I have come across in the last few years.
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Some time ago, when I was considering buying the ETS Intercooler I was also confused and thought that the kit already includes a charge pipe; but it doesn't, Harold from HP Autowerks clarified that for me back then. It is not the same piece just intercooler piping and you should be better off with the ER's charge pipe or another brand's well received charge pipe if you are running higher boost. In fact, it is good to have it anyway regardless of your tune or boost because it delivers quite good improvement in throttle response.
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+ DP's + Oil cooler Does anybody has some CHECK INJEN issues running the st.2 on track? When I used my 335i FBO jb4 on track I got a lot of CHECKs like misfiring in cylinders and so on... Now I need a reliable and stable set up without overheating and other issues to run it on track and DD with no problems... |
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12-11-2012, 09:02 AM | #12 |
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I got this picture from Mike from n54tuning AMS, ETS, stock FMICs So going with st.2 ETS is small... it's OK for the st.1 But I know that AMS has has some bad piping, where to get it? And how about trimming? |
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It is going on late this week when my brakes and exhaust goes in. I will write an initial quick review, but a more thorough one after some kms. I found that the car's drivability improves quite substantially 500km after the install.
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Firstly I'm planning to get ER FMIC+charge pipe+oil cooler to reduce the overheating at all and then I need to decide wheter it's better to go with Evolve st.1 or it's better to add DP's and go with st.2... Why I'm hesitating? Because on I think that on higher boost car can have more problems like Ch.Enj., but the st.2 I think is more interesting to drive) Waiting for your rewiev according the stages!) And i should mention that if I go with st.2 I won't change my midpipe because don't to have very loud exhaust... Last edited by jackkk; 12-12-2012 at 06:23 AM.. |
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12-12-2012, 06:26 AM | #16 | |
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If I go with st.1 insted of DP's I can go with n55 midpipe ar just add resonators instead of catts... That's comlicated... |
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12-12-2012, 06:40 AM | #17 | |
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But I need to choose between 2 stages, what is better for the DD, track days and for the car at all, to have no problems with it Accoeding to the boost it is really strange, because jb4 map2(st.2 for DP's) runs just 14.5 psi... I run this map and had FBO on my car and it was much more faster than the stock 1M and Evolve only on st.1 rus 16.5 whitch is jb4+meth... This is my 335i vs 1M on race gas 0-240 |
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12-12-2012, 07:09 AM | #18 | |
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I found Berk midpipes and I think they are not that loud that Maddads, am I right? I don't want my exhaust to be very loud,because my SS race muffler is one of the loudest in the market if don't tolk about Maistercraft streight pipes... So the SS resonated mids are very expensive and then I have 3 ways: n55 Berk Maddad right? but I think that Berk and Maddad is better because they have 2 resonators instead of 1 in n55 |
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And one more question about aftermarket mids - Does the exhaust smell worse? Like when you drive with open windows in the traffic... Quote:
Berk mids are $599 + $50 shipping to Russia from their site, I think that is good prise and they are 2.5" which is not that loud like 3.0" Maddad |
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Price depends on where you order it and from whom. In US it can be as cheap as 300 USD, in Europe can be a bit more than 400 plus shipping. Try not to order from official BMW dealer if you don't want to pay more.
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So if I undestood I will have the good full bolt-on for the st.1 and I think it will be stable and reliable) Tnx guys! On spring. after the installation I will write down a lil review on my mods! |
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