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Not sure it classifies as "special". Nothing new is introduced in 1M.
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01-10-2011, 12:19 PM | #48 |
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I totally agree!!!!!!!! Everybody out there should cancel their orders NOW!!!
That way I can get mine guaranteed......... And 20 years from now when everybody is saying " man I wish I could find one of those 1M's", all I will have to do is look in my garage and smile when I see a 2OO2, 1M, and Z4 smiling back.......
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I totally disagree w/ your assertion. You can't compare cars that are $10k apart stock. As far as base platforms are concerned, a 1M is not that far off from an M3 for what you get. Your comparison of a civic vs. a viper is ridiculous. Anyway, you're entitled to your opinion as is everyone else.
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01-10-2011, 12:24 PM | #50 |
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out of control, 40k for a base 135i, terrible and for what? Less options than ever before....good news is this will make my 08 vert seem like a deal when I go to sell it in the spring...:-)
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01-10-2011, 12:28 PM | #52 | |
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in this situation we're talking about cars performance #s and ability. if you want to talk about daily driving, the n54 is a better car, it gets great gas mileage and has a nice deal of torque for daily driving. that is great and all, but thats not what i look for when i think of a BMW M car. no one did say the 1M would beat the e9x. i am saying that for me, who looks at a cars performance on the ring as its true capabilities and potential for driving 10/10ths (im a track rat), the e9x used is a better buy than a new 1m (around 44k for a used m3 in the tri-state NY area). its going to be a few thousand dollars less. the insurance will be lower because it is a legitimate 2+2 coupe and its bigger. it also has a motor that was not featured on ABC (i have an 09 335 and love it, but i fear its going to break down daily). not only that, stock for stock, the m3 a better performer than the 1M (in my categories of what qualifies a car to be superior to another car). one is a turbo motor that was BASED for daily driving and fuel efficiency (there were no homologation rules for the n54) and the other was a s-based motor that was designed specifically for the M brand - no racing rules as well - but exclusively for performance. the turbo motors can easily be modified to push more power. where as, it takes more money to get power out of the s65. so its an unfair argument to say a 1M modified will be better than a m3 modified. what does better mean? it technically could be faster in a straight line, but overall, its not going to be a better performer on a track than an m3 modified. and track #s are what I look at to label a car as a "superior" car to another. why do I drool at supercars SO much more than regular production cars that are high end performance cars. obviously their looks, but their performance #s are so staggering, its hard not to drool. but a m car for daily driving is like having a lingerie model as a gf that only wears sweat pants.
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01-10-2011, 12:30 PM | #53 |
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I think the 1M is a very good/fair price. Most 135i's MSRP are low to mid 40s. Only a couple grand more for a base 1M seems right.
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01-10-2011, 12:31 PM | #54 | |
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why would i buy a 1M over an e9x m3? -limited edition -looks -gas mileage? -tuning capability -motor? - no. what else would make me want to buy a 1M over an e9x m3?
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Same here.... this makes a used E9x more attractive as a street car.... gotta agree with Pkumar there.. Last edited by M3 Adjuster; 01-10-2011 at 12:39 PM.. |
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01-10-2011, 12:36 PM | #56 | |
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http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=472577 I mean the price increase is not all due to the VAT increase. Added an other £347... Last edited by Joer; 01-10-2011 at 12:46 PM.. |
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Uh, yeah. Didn't 135i's base for $34,900 before destination fee just a couple years ago? These cars were tough sells even at that price, but now they want nearly $40k base? Wow.
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01-10-2011, 12:45 PM | #59 |
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This would be a deal if the 1M had the S65, just can't see it for an N54 car......but I'll withhold judgement until I drive one.
My pre-owned 2008 M3 (15k miles but loaded and immaculate shape) didn't cost much more than this a year ago.
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I would assume that's a 2008 non CPO car...warranty expires in 2012. So the main difference is the warranty. With the higher base price, i'm back to where i was before...considering the used M3 vs a stripper 1M. Everyone knows them S motors are expensive! |
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1M seems right... but the base for 135 is surprising!
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These are the prices I got from BMWUSA.com for a 2011 135 (assuming that they all stay the same).
Premium - $2350; 135 ZPP, $1950, plus $400 for the Ipod Conveince - $3100; 135 ZCP, $1000, plus $2100 for iDrive Sat radio - $350 Heater Seats - $500 Harmon Kardon - $875 Smartphone integration - $150 Total cost for both packages - $5450... plus all options, $7325 on top of MSRP for a fully loaded car. i.e. $54,335 Or you do the math, as your car will suit you.
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