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04-19-2011, 12:15 PM | #111 |
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What do you mean?
Everybody with N55 was fearful at first that they wouldn't be able to make as much power as the N54 guys... boy was everyone wrong.. N55 is a torque BEAST!!!!!! |
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Funny enough after doing research non of the above posts are true...and in fact the reason why the 1M has the N54 motor in it is because at the time the M division started fine tuning the 135 for the 1M the N55 had not even been developed yet.
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04-19-2011, 02:03 PM | #113 |
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Excerpt from wiki N55 listing-"The preceding N54 was a twin-turbocharged straight-6 with direct injection technology that did not use Valvetronic, comparatively the N55 has less tuning potential but reduced emissions and fuel consumption in keeping with BMW's Efficient Dynamics initiative.[2]"
---------------------------- tell me where I was wrong. |
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04-19-2011, 03:16 PM | #114 |
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Oh snap somebody reference wiki...you know that thing is a holy grail of info b/c nobody can log in and type in whatever they want there...
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04-19-2011, 03:27 PM | #115 | |
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04-19-2011, 03:36 PM | #116 | |
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Yes you are correct they were looking for more fuel efficiency and less emissions, but no where did they state that it had less tuning potential. The only people talking about tuning potential where referencing the fact that BMW stated it had tune proof DME. Next you are incorrect for the fact that it does not have similar tuning potential...the N55 has only 6 months or so of tuning research and already it has caught up to the N54 in terms of tuning potential running less psi 1 - 2 less psi. Give it 2 1/2 years of more research and I promise you it will be at the same point as the N54 if not better. Oh and the simple fact that you referenced Wiki just shows how bad the sources of your information are.
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04-19-2011, 03:44 PM | #117 | |
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04-19-2011, 03:48 PM | #118 |
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increased fuel economy? nah, that's bullshit. i'm only getting 16.5 mpg... oh i forgot about my lead foot! hahaha.
anyway, seems like tuners are proving the speculations of the N55 wrong! it's PROVEN that the N55 can put down horsepower and a WICKED amount of torque! C'mon 423wtq? |
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04-19-2011, 04:17 PM | #120 |
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Sounds pretty simple...
The N54 has had time to adapt and optimize. The N55 simply needed the time to adapt and optimize. It could end up a wash, and it could end up in one engine squeaking out the other, but it probably won't be by a wide margin. Whether one has better internals for bigger turbos than the other will probably be hard to say as well. They both seem to be doing what they should be doing. Who loses? About the only thing that i've heard enough about to give pause is the DCT handling the upper end of the power potential. |
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04-19-2011, 04:45 PM | #122 |
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You cant wiggle out of and you know your wrong period!
My statement that you quoted says exactly what you said in post #118. You're not man enough to admit when your wrong. The proof is right above in B&W. And I stand by my other quote as well, as far as the forged crank goes. If you also think that they used "surplus" engines to get rid of inventory you are as naive as you are not man enough to admit you were dead wrong. |
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I stated that you were wrong to say that the N55 was a weaker engine because BMW's main focus was on fuel efficiency and improved emissions...this you were wrong about proving now that the N55 actually has very similar tuning potential to the N54. BMW's main focus with the N20 was on fuel efficiency and improved emissions, but somehow the engine came out with more power as well...funny how that works that they can come out with a new engine with their focus on similar things and have it perform much better. Just because they have a focus on certain aspects does not mean they slack off in the other aspects. If they did it would not be called a BMW. As far as the surplus of engines I never said that and think that statement is ridiculous. The reason they used the N54 in the 1M was not because it was a better engine. That statement is even more ridiculous (keep in mind this is something that you stated). The reason why they used the N54 in the 1M is that it usually takes the M division 3-5 years of research and development to come out with their M car. So basically the only engine at the time of them starting development was the N54...the N55 was still in production. So the M division did not have a choice between the engines because the N55 was still under development. It is pretty obvious when you this into account why the N54 is in the 1M.
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Name me 1 F/I high perf sports car/coupe that utilizes a single turbo. Then take your time typing down all the others that do exist have have twins(or more!). All of them! Believe what you want, ostrich man. And like prior to the release of the 335is and the 1M many N55 people said it will never have the N54. I'll bet you that the new M3 will have twins also and a forged crank. |
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04-19-2011, 05:37 PM | #125 | |
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I tend to think the TT 335is and 1M sets its sights higher than the two you mentioned. Might want to be careful throwing that idiot word around. It sometimes bounces back at those when you least expect it. |
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I dont think it is available is it?
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