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What it isn't going to do is handle better or be more fun. Which is why I'm moving from tuned 135i to 1M. Out of curiousity MrRoboto, the burden of proof could lie in the other direction - what proof is there that the 1M engine isn't the same as the N54 135i? I'm not saying it is or isn't, but I haven't seen actual proof, only some words on my laptop screen.
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And dont forget the drivetrain...the 1M has a higher final drive ratio. |
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05-13-2011, 02:18 PM | #93 | |
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You are actually correct - despite my 10 years of force-induction experience, including swapping/building engines as well components, I am new to the way the e82's get tuned. It appears that there is quite a bit of more technology involved (which as a computer engineer I am happy to see ). Your explanation combined with those of others as to how these piggy backs work make perfect sense. Thanks for sharing the knowledge
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05-13-2011, 02:19 PM | #94 | |
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But I only paid $34,800 + Title on my 2009
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05-13-2011, 02:24 PM | #96 | |
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Now that would be a monster. I remember that thread. Some speculation on another board was that it had two "twin-Power N55 style turbos". But I don't think that they will fit, so that was ruled out.
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05-13-2011, 02:34 PM | #97 |
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Lets just fix all of this conjecture and guessing:
Piston Rings: 135i: http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...86&hg=11&fg=20 1M coupe http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...86&hg=11&fg=20 INTAKE 135i http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...55&hg=13&fg=20 1M coupe http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...55&hg=13&fg=20 FLYWHEEL 135i http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...87&hg=11&fg=20 1M coupe http://www.realoem.com/bmw/showparts...87&hg=11&fg=20 Not going to list the exhaust here as that is OBVIOUSLY different(including the midpipe...just not from a visual standpoint...but it does have a different part #) This is just to prove what IS and ISN'T different for those that may want to know |
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05-13-2011, 02:43 PM | #98 | |
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It all looks the same. The 1-Series M is using the latest hardware the was found on the 12/09 and later N54 engine.
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Sorry the flywheel is NOT the same...and neither is the exhaust.....piston rings look to be the same as well as the intake muffler and manifold...I didn't look at all the part numbers for the piping to and from the intake though that would be minor (or would it?)
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05-13-2011, 02:49 PM | #100 |
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135i flywheel - 21207590942
1 Series M flywheel - 21207590942 Not sure what part numbers you are looking at... intake snorkle is the same as well. All same..Latest parts found on >2009 N54 engines
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Last time I checked though, $5,000 was pretty substantial. And the suspension would likely be better than what comes on the M.
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Sorry I stand corrected....I misread the 135i page...apparently the flywheel was changed on later model (Jan '09) N54's....
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I have aftermarket suspension on my 135 and it certainly lacks on the track. |
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The 2009 and later FW is actually a pretty good part for an OE peice. There are better aftermarket parts, but for a OE part it isn't something that I can see the engineers saying...lets make that better...and not sacrifice longevity.
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05-13-2011, 03:04 PM | #107 | |
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I think 5K is substantial from a modding standpoint. And trust me, that isn't substantial to my check book. My point is, what else could I do for the remaining $5K. FWIW I have the title to my 1'er, and I just bought it in September.
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$2k in suspension and better than the 1M?? Sorry I have to raise the BS flag there....KW V1 suspension alone is ~$1200 and that is only height adjustable...if you go for something like AST or TC Kline you can up the price a good bit...and that is just for coilovers....then you have the swaybar, endlinks, wishbones, bushings, etc, etc...and that is another $2k at least just for parts....and then you have the wider track...so suspension-wise I don't think it could be "better"....close to the M i could accept...better I cannot...
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This isn't justifying buying a 1M if you already have a tuned 135i (like myself...)...but saying that it would cost you a good amount of money to do and may not be worth it, for new buyers especially... |
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